Fantasy Trade Thread

[TigerInYourTank]

I don't think they would even do it with the cap space alone. But yes, if they are going to blow up their future cap space for a guy with no menicsus, I would expect them not to also take on 23m in deadweight of Amare.

Let's not exaggerate, here. Removing a very small part of a meniscus is not that huge of a deal. I had it done very early on in my Marine Corps Infantry days, and I dealt with it just fine for nearly a decade. Yes, I have injury concerns over Bledsoe. No, I am not ready to call him out as having a deteriorating knee without some very hard evidence. Do you, or should I look just a bit harder online for what you are claiming?

My understanding is even the removal of a small portion of it is viewed as serious considering the wear and tear and rigors associated with NBA play; although the size of the area removed is very important.

Considering his knee injury has already repeated before then, I would say it is a big red flag and Bledsoe's fit, talent and contract window don't match up well enough to be worth it.

No, it is quite common for a meniscus to be shaved, slightly, and for that to be considered a partial removal.

I agree about the possible poor contract window fit, but not on the other issues, and it's the perception of a big red flag that makes him available. The team that knows him best is offering $12 million/year. I think the Sixers could more than stomach that for some SHOOTING++. Maybe the team could sit him a year to help "everything" heal?

[the_process]

No to Bledsoe. The Sixers would be paying him 15m per (he won't sign right now for less than that) wasting cap room for a guy who would make them better enough to lose out on a top pick but not nearly good enough to make the playoffs. Plus he basically plays the same position as MCW and while they can be defensively interchangeable, both need the ball in their hands to be effective on offense. None of that even touches on his recurring knee injuries. So I'm giving the Facebook rumor a big thumbs down.

[Mr Sixer]

Let's not exaggerate, here. Removing a very small part of a meniscus is not that huge of a deal. I had it done very early on in my Marine Corps Infantry days, and I dealt with it just fine for nearly a decade. Yes, I have injury concerns over Bledsoe. No, I am not ready to call him out as having a deteriorating knee without some very hard evidence. Do you, or should I look just a bit harder online for what you are claiming?

My understanding is even the removal of a small portion of it is viewed as serious considering the wear and tear and rigors associated with NBA play; although the size of the area removed is very important.

Considering his knee injury has already repeated before then, I would say it is a big red flag and Bledsoe's fit, talent and contract window don't match up well enough to be worth it.

No, it is quite common for a meniscus to be shaved, slightly, and for that to be considered a partial removal.

I agree about the possible poor contract window fit, but not on the other issues, and it's the perception of a big red flag that makes him available. The team that knows him best is offering $12 million/year. I think the Sixers could more than stomach that for some SHOOTING++. Maybe the team could sit him a year to help "everything" heal?

You might wanna stop spamming this Bledsoe nonsense in every post you make on this board. We're not going to sign Bledsoe, he doesn't fit with anything Hinkie is trying to do in roster fit, cap flexibility, or many many other reasons that I could list. There's a 0 percent chance it's going to happen and you writing about it definitely won't improve those chances.

[TigerInYourTank]

My understanding is even the removal of a small portion of it is viewed as serious considering the wear and tear and rigors associated with NBA play; although the size of the area removed is very important.

Considering his knee injury has already repeated before then, I would say it is a big red flag and Bledsoe's fit, talent and contract window don't match up well enough to be worth it.

No, it is quite common for a meniscus to be shaved, slightly, and for that to be considered a partial removal.

I agree about the possible poor contract window fit, but not on the other issues, and it's the perception of a big red flag that makes him available. The team that knows him best is offering $12 million/year. I think the Sixers could more than stomach that for some SHOOTING++. Maybe the team could sit him a year to help "everything" heal?

You might wanna stop spamming this Bledsoe nonsense in every post you make on this board. We're not going to sign Bledsoe, he doesn't fit with anything Hinkie is trying to do in roster fit, cap flexibility, or many many other reasons that I could list. There's a 0 percent chance it's going to happen and you writing about it definitely won't improve those chances.

Yo, Mr Sixer, are you Hinkie? Secondly, I tried to make it clear in the very first post I made in this thread that I had posted it elsewhere.

Let's try to contribute to the discussion, m'kay, by recognizing what the Sixers lack in their quest for a great team. Unless you are Hinkie or have some direct influence on him, my opinion is just as lame as yours, sir.

[Cokeleaf]

It's always interesting to hear from the more "visionary" and set-minded members who seem to be stuck on an idea.

For the record, I don't see Bledsoe being part of the Sixers future.

#offseasonramblings

[TigerInYourTank]

It's always interesting to hear from the more "visionary" and set-minded members who seem to be stuck on an idea.

For the record, I don't see Bledsoe being part of the Sixers future.

#offseasonramblings

Yes, I guess it's more of a thought experiment. What if lottery reform happens and it makes no difference whether the team wins 12 or 28 games? What does the team need most, now and in the intermediate future, to win games? Who is available, etc?

Anyway, I am more than happy to let the idea die, but let it die with some honor, please (not addressing you, Cokeleaf, in this last part).

[Cokeleaf]

Yes, I guess it's more of a thought experiment. What if lottery reform happens and it makes no difference whether the team wins 12 or 28 games? What does the team need most, now and in the intermediate future, to win games? Who is available, etc?

While if lottery reform does take place it is a huge blow to Sixers and more of a blessing to the teams that are trying to tank under the radar (Boston comes to mind first, from last season). It's not the end of the world.

Thing is, signing players to multi-year guaranteed $10m+/year contracts destroys cap flexibility. Sixers need to sign the "Super Star" before they sign the "pieces" to go around him

[51X3RF4N]

I tend to agree with cokeleaf above. Sixers need a STUD player. There's no guarantee Embiid turns into the franchise guy we all want to see. So IMO you use Embiid/Noel/MCW as building pieces to go around a Max Free agent superstar in the coming years, and in the meantime hope that one of the young guys or draft picks turns into another superstar.

I don't think you need to be wasting cap space on complementary pieces until you have THE guy first.

[Cokeleaf]

I tend to agree with cokeleaf above. Sixers need a STUD player. There's no guarantee Embiid turns into the franchise guy we all want to see. So IMO you use Embiid/Noel/MCW as building pieces to go around a Max Free agent superstar in the coming years, and in the meantime hope that one of the young guys or draft picks turns into another superstar.

I don't think you need to be wasting cap space on complementary pieces until you have THE guy first.

Niiice

[Mr Sixer]

No, it is quite common for a meniscus to be shaved, slightly, and for that to be considered a partial removal.

I agree about the possible poor contract window fit, but not on the other issues, and it's the perception of a big red flag that makes him available. The team that knows him best is offering $12 million/year. I think the Sixers could more than stomach that for some SHOOTING++. Maybe the team could sit him a year to help "everything" heal?

You might wanna stop spamming this Bledsoe nonsense in every post you make on this board. We're not going to sign Bledsoe, he doesn't fit with anything Hinkie is trying to do in roster fit, cap flexibility, or many many other reasons that I could list. There's a 0 percent chance it's going to happen and you writing about it definitely won't improve those chances.

Yo, Mr Sixer, are you Hinkie? Secondly, I tried to make it clear in the very first post I made in this thread that I had posted it elsewhere.

Let's try to contribute to the discussion, m'kay, by recognizing what the Sixers lack in their quest for a great team. Unless you are Hinkie or have some direct influence on him, my opinion is just as lame as yours, sir.

No I'm not Mr. Hinkie, I'm Mr. Common Sense. What the Sixers lack in their quest for a great team is not another point guard. What the Sixers definitely don't lack in their quest for a great team is offering a max contract to a player who doesn't deserve one and then proceeding to try a ridiculous 2 point guard backcourt where neither players are particularly good 3 point shooters. On top of that playing Bledsoe at the 2 will totally eliminate MCW's height advantage.

[TigerInYourTank]

You might wanna stop spamming this Bledsoe nonsense in every post you make on this board. We're not going to sign Bledsoe, he doesn't fit with anything Hinkie is trying to do in roster fit, cap flexibility, or many many other reasons that I could list. There's a 0 percent chance it's going to happen and you writing about it definitely won't improve those chances.

Yo, Mr Sixer, are you Hinkie? Secondly, I tried to make it clear in the very first post I made in this thread that I had posted it elsewhere.

Let's try to contribute to the discussion, m'kay, by recognizing what the Sixers lack in their quest for a great team. Unless you are Hinkie or have some direct influence on him, my opinion is just as lame as yours, sir.

No I'm not Mr. Hinkie, I'm Mr. Common Sense. What the Sixers lack in their quest for a great team is not another point guard. What the Sixers definitely don't lack in their quest for a great team is offering a max contract to a player who doesn't deserve one and then proceeding to try a ridiculous 2 point guard backcourt where neither players are particularly good 3 point shooters. On top of that playing Bledsoe at the 2 will totally eliminate MCW's height advantage.

You might want to do a little more homework before you start calling yourself Mr Common Sense. The only thing you said that makes sense is the not offering a max contract part, which no one has offered. No one is completely sure what Bledsoe will play for.

[Mr Sixer]

Yo, Mr Sixer, are you Hinkie? Secondly, I tried to make it clear in the very first post I made in this thread that I had posted it elsewhere.

Let's try to contribute to the discussion, m'kay, by recognizing what the Sixers lack in their quest for a great team. Unless you are Hinkie or have some direct influence on him, my opinion is just as lame as yours, sir.

No I'm not Mr. Hinkie, I'm Mr. Common Sense. What the Sixers lack in their quest for a great team is not another point guard. What the Sixers definitely don't lack in their quest for a great team is offering a max contract to a player who doesn't deserve one and then proceeding to try a ridiculous 2 point guard backcourt where neither players are particularly good 3 point shooters. On top of that playing Bledsoe at the 2 will totally eliminate MCW's height advantage.

You might want to do a little more homework before you start calling yourself Mr Common Sense. The only thing you said that makes sense is the not offering a max contract part, which no one has offered. No one is completely sure what Bledsoe will play for.

I've done plenty of homework.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nb ... /14467521/

Bledsoe has said multiple times he is seeking a max deal. As you can see from this article, he turned down a 12m per year contract, and is seeking his max deal which is 16m per year. If it is not a max deal we would offer him, then it is near max, because there is not much wiggle room from not accepting 12m per year to accepting 16m per. You're absolutely right that nobody has offered the max deal part, because he doesn't deserve it, which should prove to you that he is not as good as a player as you seem to think he is.

But hey, maybe you're right and you know more about GMing than Hinkie. Let's ruin all the progress we've made, rush the rebuild, throw a max deal at Bledsoe, another one at Monroe, trade Embiid and MCW for Josh Smith since MCW should be on the trading block and Embiid isn't playing this season and patience is for idiots and make the playoffs thus giving Boston our pick!

[51X3RF4N]

But hey, maybe you're right and you know more about GMing than Hinkie. Let's ruin all the progress we've made, rush the rebuild, throw a max deal at Bledsoe, another one at Monroe, trade Embiid and MCW for Josh Smith since MCW should be on the trading block and Embiid isn't playing this season and patience is for idiots and make the playoffs thus giving Boston our pick!

[Foshan]

Hey Folks, lets play nice together, or the Mods will have to start issuing time-outs. We are all on same team. Lets present our differing views in an agreeable way.

Thanks,
Foshan

[51X3RF4N]

Apologies if my meme seemed inappropriate. It was just a joke.

[Phila Tough]

Apologies if my meme seemed inappropriate. It was just a joke.

A good one that i saved to into my phone to add to my arsenal

[Foshan]

Apologies if my meme seemed inappropriate. It was just a joke.

It was more the direction of the verbal back and forth that was becoming a bit more hostile than simply argumentative.

[51X3RF4N]

Apologies if my meme seemed inappropriate. It was just a joke.

It was more the direction of the verbal back and forth that was becoming a bit more hostile than simply argumentative.

Gotcha. Anyways...back on topic...

What kind of value does everyone think a package of MCW and the rights to Saric has? Is there a PG out there who you would rather have developing with Embiid/Noel?

Or is there a SG you would want to trade for, and then try to draft Mudiay at PG?

[TigerInYourTank]

What kind of value does everyone think a package of MCW and the rights to Saric has? Is there a PG out there who you would rather have developing with Embiid/Noel?

Or is there a SG you would want to trade for, and then try to draft Mudiay at PG?

My vote is to consider having 2 PGs, as long as one can really shoot well and one can defend bigger guards. If MCW hasn't figured that out by end of next season and Mudiay/Hezonja/whomever hasn't shown that they can space the floor, then I think it makes sense to see what can be had for the pick or MCW.

[51X3RF4N]

What kind of value does everyone think a package of MCW and the rights to Saric has? Is there a PG out there who you would rather have developing with Embiid/Noel?

Or is there a SG you would want to trade for, and then try to draft Mudiay at PG?

My vote is to consider having 2 PGs, as long as one can really shoot well and one can defend bigger guards. If MCW hasn't figured that out by end of next season and Mudiay/Hezonja/whomever hasn't shown that they can space the floor, then I think it makes sense to see what can be had for the pick or MCW.

And what PG is out there that can "really shoot well", and would have a legit chance of being traded for?