2016 NBA Draft/College Basketball Thread

Ericb5 · Post #1341 » by **Ericb5** » Mon Feb 8, 2016 10:16 pm

yitur wrote:Wouldn't you guys be happy with something like Dunn-Hield-Valentine or maybe 2 out of 3 is more realistic but still. Hield and Valentine will slip because they are a bit older but both look like amazing talents that every team would love to have.

I wouldn't describe any scenario where we don't get Simmons or Ingram as us being happy. Hield and Valentine on the later first round picks could be pretty sweet though.

yitur · Post #1342 » by **yitur** » Mon Feb 8, 2016 10:33 pm

Ericb5 wrote:
yitur wrote:Wouldn't you guys be happy with something like Dunn-Hield-Valentine or maybe 2 out of 3 is more realistic but still. Hield and Valentine will slip because they are a bit older but both look like amazing talents that every team would love to have.

I wouldn't describe any scenario where we don't get Simmons or Ingram as us being happy. Hield and Valentine on the later first round picks could be pretty sweet though.

I dont know why but there is something that feels off with ingram for me, and in my scenario we get simmons

FreesFro · Post #1343 » by **FreesFro** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 3:10 am

LSU is in first in the SEC. And you guys said they would suck this year even with Ben.

Mik317 · Post #1344 » by **Mik317** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 4:03 am

FreesFro wrote:LSU is in first in the SEC. And you guys said they would suck this year even with Ben.

wat?

never would have thought that...but goes to show how good Simmons may be. Its kinda like that Texas team Durant had.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #1345 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 4:16 am

Or the Syracuse team Melo had. I don't even think that Syracuse team was ranked the year they took it home with Melo. Watch Simmons and LSU run the table in the tournament.

Post #1346 » by **Duke4life831** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 4:54 am

FreesFro wrote:LSU is in first in the SEC. And you guys said they would suck this year even with Ben.

Ben is definitely carrying that team. But lets remember this LSU team started the season ranked. They were supposed to be good this year

76thBearCub · Post #1347 » by **76thBearCub** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 5:52 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Or the Syracuse team Melo had. I don't even think that Syracuse team was ranked the year they took it home with Melo. Watch Simmons and LSU run the table in the tournament.

I want to see that happen. Just like I wanted to watch AI disrupt a threepeat with Shaq and Kobe.

Agnostifarian · Post #1348 » by **Agnostifarian** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 2:30 pm

Zhou Qi could is an excellent draft and stash prospect with the OKC pick. It would be great to have a Chinese fan base and you can never have enough big men. Am I right?

Negrodamus · Post #1349 » by **Negrodamus** » Tue Feb 9, 2016 3:20 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Or the Syracuse team Melo had. I don't even think that Syracuse team was ranked the year they took it home with Melo. Watch Simmons and LSU run the table in the tournament.

Melo was damn good, but he doesn't win without Gerry McNamara or Hakim Warrick. I don't see them walking through that door at LSU.

freshie2 · Post #1350 » by **freshie2** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:17 am

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/How-Ben-Simmons-Compares-to-Past-NBA-Prospects-5361/

Nice highlights...special player.

Mik317 · Post #1351 » by **Mik317** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:20 am

Murray has turned it on as of late.

eagereyez · Post #1352 » by **eagereyez** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:16 am

I'm still not sold on Murray. Great in transition, great from 3 on a large amount of attempts. Poor defender, mediocre athlete. Will probably come into the league as a 2 guard, which will be problematic considering his size and (lack of) athleticism. Would be better if he could play PG, but with a 13 AST% so far I have my doubts about that happening. Wouldn't take him with a top 5 pick.

No-Man · Post #1353 » by **No-Man** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:58 am

Murray is basically OJ Mayo sort of, same flaws.
He should be a good scoring combo from the bench, but I doubt that's worth a lotto pick, maybe late lotto, 10-20 range anyway.

freshie2 · Post #1354 » by **freshie2** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:17 am

Murray may not be a top pick, but he's going to be a solid pro...Simmons and Murray would be a great haul in this draft.

phifans · Post #1355 » by **phifans** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:00 pm

Agnostifarian wrote:Zhou Qi could is an excellent draft and stash prospect with the OKC pick. It would be great to have a Chinese fan base and you can never have enough big men. Am I right?

Definately. It would make sixers be a popular one in my country again since Iverson left.

Dell · Post #1356 » by **Dell** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:19 pm

phifans wrote:
Agnostifarian wrote:Zhou Qi could is an excellent draft and stash prospect with the OKC pick. It would be great to have a Chinese fan base and you can never have enough big men. Am I right?

Definately. It would make sixers be a popular one in my country again since Iverson left.

That's actually a very interesting bonus for the Sixers... Let's say we pick 1, 4/5 and then 20 and we take Simmons, Murray and Qi. In addition to making 3 strong choices, the 76ers just gained a lot of popularity in Australia, Canada and China. I supposed you could stretch that to Hield too, but I don't see any way he makes it to the Heat pick unless they absolutely fall apart.

Ericb5 · Post #1357 » by **Ericb5** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:23 pm

phifans wrote:
Agnostifarian wrote:Zhou Qi could is an excellent draft and stash prospect with the OKC pick. It would be great to have a Chinese fan base and you can never have enough big men. Am I right?

Definately. It would make sixers be a popular one in my country again since Iverson left.

I don't know anything about the kid other than he is tall, but if he is one of these high upside long shots, and is still on the board with the OKC pick them I would rather take and stash him than take someone destined to be a role player earlier.

I wouldn't pass up people like Grayson Allen or Melo Trimble for him, but I suspect that they will both be gone by that point anyway.

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Negrodamus · Post #1358 » by **Negrodamus** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:33 pm

eagereyez wrote:I'm still not sold on Murray. Great in transition, great from 3 on a large amount of attempts. Poor defender, mediocre athlete. Will probably come into the league as a 2 guard, which will be problematic considering his size and (lack of) athleticism. Would be better if he could play PG, but with a 13 AST% so far I have my doubts about that happening. Wouldn't take him with a top 5 pick.

I think he's great in half court offense too. Moves well without the ball in his hands and gets himself open. I believe his shooting is great, period.

I still think he can play PG, but would have to grow into the role. Don't think defense will be a long term issue if he plays PG. Has the length and athleticism to do so. He's not the quickest player in the draft, but he is very athletic.

Negrodamus · Post #1359 » by **Negrodamus** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:11 pm

Another thing on Murray:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3ZnnHHtybo[/youtube]

In this video, the most impressive thing he does isn't the threes he drains. At around 1:05, Murray goes coast to coast and finishes with his left hand (he's right handed). D'Angelo Russell, second overall pick in this most recent draft, is terrified of doing that.

The reason he can be a top five pick is because every shot that leaves his hand has a chance of going in. The reason he will be is because of his underrated athleticism and ability to finish with both hands at the rim. Defense will come with time.

PhilasFinest · Post #1360 » by **PhilasFinest** » Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:04 pm

Dell wrote:
phifans wrote:
Agnostifarian wrote:Zhou Qi could is an excellent draft and stash prospect with the OKC pick. It would be great to have a Chinese fan base and you can never have enough big men. Am I right?

Definately. It would make sixers be a popular one in my country again since Iverson left.

That's actually a very interesting bonus for the Sixers... Let's say we pick 1, 4/5 and then 20 and we take Simmons, Murray and Qi. In addition to making 3 strong choices, the 76ers just gained a lot of popularity in Australia, Canada and China. I supposed you could stretch that to Hield too, but I don't see any way he makes it to the Heat pick unless they absolutely fall apart.

Lets work on filling the stadium in Philadelphia before we worry about gaining popularity in other countries.