Fantasy Trade Thread

[HartfordWhalers]

Last one is getting really long, so time to start a new one up in connection with the upcoming trade deadline season.

Any and all visiting team fans please place fantasy trade proposals here or they will get locked. Thanks!

[TTP]

Trade Okafor for a second round pick plus a video of Embiid dancing on the Carlton Cam. Who says no?

[KramerDSP]

I saw something similar elsewhere but here's my take. New Orleans is desperate and maybe a line up of Holiday, Hield, Covington, Davis, and Noel makes some waves.

Noel, Covington and the OKC 2020 1st for
Pelicans 2017 1st (top five protected in '17 and unprotected in '18).

[Sportfan73]

I'm starting to think Nerlens is gonna go with the LA pick for a legit backcourt player. That to me seems to be the pick Colangelo would sell on. One of those "this franchise has waited long enough for that trade to materialize" type things.

[dorkestra]

Can we even get a better deal right now than something like Noel for Clarkson? Who out there will give us something valuable.

Also, why don't we take a flyer on Allen Crabbe if/when the Blazers realize they don't want to pay luxury tax for 2nd round playoff loss?

[Zaschrona]

I wonder what would you expect to receive in a trade for Holmes, where do you see his value?

[Sportfan73]

I wonder what would you expect to receive in a trade for Holmes, where do you see his value?

I would add a second or 2 to holmes for Rozier

[the_process]

I wonder what would you expect to receive in a trade for Holmes, where do you see his value?

I would add a second or 2 to holmes for Rozier

Nah, no adding anything from Philly's end. Holmes for Rozier straight up, or Boston can add in a expiring dump if they want.

[the_process]

Parker makes no sense. For 15m the Sixers better be able to get more than a 35 y/o declining stop gap next summer.

To me, they ought to be shopping for a vet guard in the approximate range 12M to 17M, who will be splitting minutes with and kind of mentoring the Sixers own drafted PG (Fultz ), helping get the ball to Embiid and doing some secondary ball handling, while also being able to play off the ball and knock down shots off Simmons passes. Under that premise, here is who is available in FA according to Spotrac (leaving Curry and Rose and Holiday off under the assumption they all want to start and get paid more):

Deron Williams
Jeff Teague
George Hill
Jose Calderon
Shaun Livingston
Darren Collison
Brandon Jennings
Patrick Mills
Trey Burke
Randy Foye
Aaron Brooks
Michael Carter-Williams
Shelvin Mack
Mo Williams (who is unofficially retired)
Tyler Ennis
Raymond Felton
Beno Udrih
John Lucas III
Ty Lawson
Brian Roberts
Bobby Brown

The only ones who are definitely better than coming to the end Parker are Teague, Hill, Livingston, and Collison IMO. Hill is almost certain to get big bucks to re-sign in Utah. GSW has Bird rights on Livingston, so they can fill in and then come back and give him a decent raise to stick around and have a shot at another ring. Seems to me at his age he'd rather take that, but maybe he would rather have a big paycheck?

Considering the options, and weighing future flexibility, seems better to me to have Parker for 1/15 as opposed to Teague on like a 4/64 deal. Or I suppose you could bring back Holiday... but that might be a max deal to get done.

All of that is to say why I thought a TJ and the GSW 2nd for Parker would be a good deal.

(DISCLAIMER - Obviously if you can max Curry, you do that and figure out the rest. But that is not happening.)

[HartfordWhalers]

Parker makes no sense. For 15m the Sixers better be able to get more than a 35 y/o declining stop gap next summer.

To me, they ought to be shopping for a vet guard in the approximate range 12M to 17M, who will be splitting minutes with and kind of mentoring the Sixers own drafted PG (Fultz ), helping get the ball to Embiid and doing some secondary ball handling, while also being able to play off the ball and knock down shots off Simmons passes. Under that premise, here is who is available in FA according to Spotrac (leaving Curry and Rose and Holiday off under the assumption they all want to start and get paid more):

Deron Williams
Jeff Teague
George Hill
Jose Calderon
Shaun Livingston
Darren Collison
Brandon Jennings
Patrick Mills
Trey Burke
Randy Foye
Aaron Brooks
Michael Carter-Williams
Shelvin Mack
Mo Williams (who is unofficially retired)
Tyler Ennis
Raymond Felton
Beno Udrih
John Lucas III
Ty Lawson
Brian Roberts
Bobby Brown

The only ones who are definitely better than coming to the end Parker are Teague, Hill, Livingston, and Collison IMO. Hill is almost certain to get big bucks to re-sign in Utah. GSW has Bird rights on Livingston, so they can fill in and then come back and give him a decent raise to stick around and have a shot at another ring. Seems to me at his age he'd rather take that, but maybe he would rather have a big paycheck?

Considering the options, and weighing future flexibility, seems better to me to have Parker for 1/15 as opposed to Teague on like a 4/64 deal. Or I suppose you could bring back Holiday... but that might be a max deal to get done.

(DISCLAIMER - Obviously if you can max Curry, you do that and figure out the rest. But that is not happening.)

Patty Mills should be better than Parker next season. So there is 6 or so guys who will be better. But even better than Parker is not investing 15m into a placeholder pg. Especially when there already is one on the roster that will be just as good (if not better) next year in Bayless. Because a 35 year old Parker is shot.

Use that money to throw funny money at Porter, or to take on Crabbe in an imbalanced trade or etc. Something that should help the team when they are playing past April.

[TTP]

If you need a PG mentor, hire one as an assistant coach.

[Sportfan73]

Jah and Sergio for Patty mills and Danny Green.
Mills is the perfect fit next to Simmons or the perfect fit off the bench next to sauce and dario. Green is a great 3 and D guy and also great mentor to Covington and tlc.

[TTP]

Parker makes no sense. For 15m the Sixers better be able to get more than a 35 y/o declining stop gap next summer.

To me, they ought to be shopping for a vet guard in the approximate range 12M to 17M, who will be splitting minutes with and kind of mentoring the Sixers own drafted PG (Fultz ), helping get the ball to Embiid and doing some secondary ball handling, while also being able to play off the ball and knock down shots off Simmons passes. Under that premise, here is who is available in FA according to Spotrac (leaving Curry and Rose and Holiday off under the assumption they all want to start and get paid more):

Deron Williams
Jeff Teague
George Hill
Jose Calderon
Shaun Livingston
Darren Collison
Brandon Jennings
Patrick Mills
Trey Burke
Randy Foye
Aaron Brooks
Michael Carter-Williams
Shelvin Mack
Mo Williams (who is unofficially retired)
Tyler Ennis
Raymond Felton
Beno Udrih
John Lucas III
Ty Lawson
Brian Roberts
Bobby Brown

The only ones who are definitely better than coming to the end Parker are Teague, Hill, Livingston, and Collison IMO. Hill is almost certain to get big bucks to re-sign in Utah. GSW has Bird rights on Livingston, so they can fill in and then come back and give him a decent raise to stick around and have a shot at another ring. Seems to me at his age he'd rather take that, but maybe he would rather have a big paycheck?

Considering the options, and weighing future flexibility, seems better to me to have Parker for 1/15 as opposed to Teague on like a 4/64 deal. Or I suppose you could bring back Holiday... but that might be a max deal to get done.

All of that is to say why I thought a TJ and the GSW 2nd for Parker would be a good deal.

(DISCLAIMER - Obviously if you can max Curry, you do that and figure out the rest. But that is not happening.)

I'm not signing someone just because they're "better". They need to fit well with our current players and help us build a championship roster. I believe that we need a low usage PG that can function as a secondary ball handler, be an above average defender that can ideally defend more than just the opposing PG, and be an above average shooter.

I believe the only guys on that list that fit that criteria are George Hill and Patty Mills.

I'm not sure what the Jazz will do. They have to pay Gobert, Hayward, and Hill. I'm assuming they'll find a way to get it done but if not, I'm throwing money at Hill.

I'm also guessing that the Spurs find a way to resign Mills given that they have the Duncan, Ginobili, Dedmon, and Lee contracts coming off the books and it looks like the only other person they need to sign is Simmons. If not, I'd definitely go after him and hope the Brett Brown connection is an asset there.

I'd also consider throwing a an offer at Jrue but only if he's willing to accept a lower usage role. I'm not sure what offers he'll get given that he hasn't been able to stay healthy the last few years.

I'd give an offer to Chalmers as well, assuming he only signs a one year deal with a contender this year.

Failing that, I'm trying to trade for young guys like Wade Baldwin, Pat McCaw, Delon Wright. Also Norman Powell or RHJ for SGs.

[TTP]

Jah and Sergio for Patty mills and Danny Green.
Mills is the perfect fit next to Simmons or the perfect fit off the bench next to sauce and dario. Green is a great 3 and D guy and also great mentor to Covington and tlc.

No chance the Spurs do that. Okafor seems like the anti-Spur. Green is also on a very valuable contract for them and fits perfectly in the role they have for him.

[HartfordWhalers]

Jah and Sergio for Patty mills and Danny Green.
Mills is the perfect fit next to Simmons or the perfect fit off the bench next to sauce and dario. Green is a great 3 and D guy and also great mentor to Covington and tlc.

I wouldn't remotely touch that.

[the_process]

I was speaking of possibilities outside of trades in my post. And to me, taking on a player like a Parker (or insert whatever name you want) doesn't preclude making trades or even signing max FA's should the opportunity arise. They have a ridiculous amount of cap space again this summer.

Also, Bayless will serve kind of in that role I suppose, but they still need another guard as I imagine Henderson and Rodriquez will be let go after the season.

[HartfordWhalers]

I posted 6 Bayless trades on the TnT forum.

Going to do Henderson in a few days. If bored take a look.

[youngcrev]

Sixers: Beverley and Beal
Wizards: Jah, Bayless and Brewer
Rockets: Gortat

Because today I prefer Noel to Jah, am annoyed at our perimeter defense, and would love a perimeter offensive weapon.

Why it's iffy for us? Beal's contract is a potential cap killer for an oft injured guy, and we'd further muck up the cap by paying Noel huge bucks to stick around (and as backup...)

[jbent87]

Parker makes no sense. For 15m the Sixers better be able to get more than a 35 y/o declining stop gap next summer.

I'd also consider throwing a an offer at Jrue but only if he's willing to accept a lower usage role. I'm not sure what offers he'll get given that he hasn't been able to stay healthy the last few years.

I think Jrues people would be okay with this. No way he breaks the bank w the injuries hes had and he and his wife are friends with Zach Ertz and his wife who obviously lives in the area. Could be more reasoning to take some version of a "hometown deal."

[76ciology]

With Celtics struggling horribly on defense and Brookly Nets playing well, maybe Celts and Sixers can revisit a Noel for Nets pick deal?