2023-2024 College Basketball / NBA Draft

Negrodamus · Post #321 » by **Negrodamus** » Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:17 pm

Honestly, I'm the opposite of the general sentiment on this board. Unless it's taking a stab at a pure statistical maestro like Mark Sears, I'm out on most junior/seniors in the first. I don't see a marked difference between the guys projected in the first round and the second round.

This draft is such trash that I'd rather take a swing at a freshman/soph who has some of the numbers I'd like to see from prospects and hope they'd grow into that role in the NBA. Carrington, Kel'el Ware, Klintman (although he's pushing it), Ulrich Chomche. Honestly, the agility and tools that Chomche has shown at the age of 18 is worth taking a chance on in the off-chance he becomes Giannis.

Negrodamus · Post #322 » by **Negrodamus** » Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:15 pm

Deep sleeper I'd take in the second if we catch wind of someone trying to draft him, otherwise pick up undrafted:

Norchad Omier

If he has a consistent 3 (shot 75% FT, 35% 3FG) he'd be an excellent PF on this team. Particularly because he's one of the best rebounders in this draft. 2.8 STL%, 3.0 BLK%. Won't need to have the ball in his hands to be effective. Basically the opposite of our starting PF, Norvirgin (Tobias Harris).

Negrodamus · Post #323 » by **Negrodamus** » Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:52 pm

Watch on YouTube

Officially declared for the draft yesterday. Numbers are pretty insane. The eye test is lacking a bit, but I'll have to watch more.

Negrodamus · Post #324 » by **Negrodamus** » Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:07 pm

Negrodamus wrote:Deep sleeper I'd take in the second if we catch wind of someone trying to draft him, otherwise pick up undrafted:

Norchad Omier

If he has a consistent 3 (shot 75% FT, 35% 3FG) he'd be an excellent PF on this team. Particularly because he's one of the best rebounders in this draft. 2.8 STL%, 3.0 BLK%. Won't need to have the ball in his hands to be effective. Basically the opposite of our starting PF, Norvirgin (Tobias Harris).

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stormi · Post #325 » by **stormi** » Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:22 am

Negrodamus wrote:Honestly, I'm the opposite of the general sentiment on this board. Unless it's taking a stab at a pure statistical maestro like Mark Sears, I'm out on most junior/seniors in the first. I don't see a marked difference between the guys projected in the first round and the second round.

This draft is such trash that I'd rather take a swing at a freshman/soph who has some of the numbers I'd like to see from prospects and hope they'd grow into that role in the NBA. Carrington, Kel'el Ware, Klintman (although he's pushing it), Ulrich Chomche. Honestly, the agility and tools that Chomche has shown at the age of 18 is worth taking a chance on in the off-chance he becomes Giannis.

What's your take on Justin Edwards then? 6'8 ~200lbs genuine wing with a decent looking stroke. Was a top 3 recruit coming out of HS. Why hasn't he popped off more and is he worth the swing?

Negrodamus · Post #326 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:28 am

stormi wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:Honestly, I'm the opposite of the general sentiment on this board. Unless it's taking a stab at a pure statistical maestro like Mark Sears, I'm out on most junior/seniors in the first. I don't see a marked difference between the guys projected in the first round and the second round.

This draft is such trash that I'd rather take a swing at a freshman/soph who has some of the numbers I'd like to see from prospects and hope they'd grow into that role in the NBA. Carrington, Kel'el Ware, Klintman (although he's pushing it), Ulrich Chomche. Honestly, the agility and tools that Chomche has shown at the age of 18 is worth taking a chance on in the off-chance he becomes Giannis.

What's your take on Justin Edwards then? 6'8 ~200lbs genuine wing with a decent looking stroke. Was a top 3 recruit coming out of HS. Why hasn't he popped off more and is he worth the swing?

I honestly can't give a fair assessment of him. He was relegated to a C&S PF by the end of the year. He had a couple big games but was otherwise underwhelming. Probably needs to go back to college so he can be an actual creator rather than a pure role player. It's the downside of being a freshman for Calipari. You have to sacrifice, but if things aren't going well, then you're going to the draft purely on HS reputation which isn't great.

I was rarely impressed, but he does have some tools that are alluring.

Negrodamus · Post #327 » by **Negrodamus** » Sun Apr 28, 2024 3:26 am

I’m becoming more entrenched with Klintman being out pick. Not because I love him as a prospect, but because he has the tools to be a solid starting PF for us. Gets to the line and also shoots from outside. Solid steal numbers. Good FT%. Look forward to his height/wingspan at the combine.

Negrodamus · Post #328 » by **Negrodamus** » Sun Apr 28, 2024 8:02 pm

Maybe draft Devin Carter since he’s a player who clearly isn’t a complete coward and tries to rebound the ball.

Arsenal · Post #329 » by **Arsenal** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:45 am

How about Tristan Newton in the 2nd round? Can he be a long term backcourt partner for Maxey?

ProcessDoctor · Post #330 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:51 pm

Edit: NVM

If we keep our pick, I feel like Shannon Jr. or McCullar would all be solid choices. Shannon Jr. seems like the most obvious choice.

I like Tyler Smith a lot too, but he's younger and might take too much time to contribute.

youngcrev · Post #331 » by **youngcrev** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:15 am

Is Da Silva any good? The scouting reports make him seem like a fit as a Batum replacement. Game highlights are underwhelming. Looks really unathletic

ProcessDoctor · Post #332 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 12:51 am

Also, Morey is going to draft Bronny at 41.

Kobblehead · Post #333 » by **Kobblehead** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:31 pm

Negrodamus wrote:Maybe draft Devin Carter since he’s a player who clearly isn’t a complete coward and tries to rebound the ball.

Devin Carter would fill a lot of needs. He's a great defender, can score/shoot a bit, and like you said, he rebounds with tenacity for a G.

Kobblehead · Post #334 » by **Kobblehead** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:34 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:Edit: NVM

If we keep our pick, I feel like Shannon Jr. or McCullar would all be solid choices. Shannon Jr. seems like the most obvious choice.

I like Tyler Smith a lot too, but he's younger and might take too much time to contribute.

I would take either of those players. McCullar is less flashy, but he's pretty well rounded.

Kobblehead · Post #335 » by **Kobblehead** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:40 pm

youngcrev wrote:Is Da Silva any good? The scouting reports make him seem like a fit as a Batum replacement. Game highlights are underwhelming. Looks really unathletic

I think he's really solid. Although I do think he is a better cog in a 5 man unit than he is as an individual player. Da Silva is legit, though, IMO. He's going to make his team better.

Kobblehead · Post #336 » by **Kobblehead** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:42 pm

Dillon Jones seems to have some elite traits.

His rebounding, playmaking, and scoring are fantastic.

Might be a little too brolic, though. He has a football body.

I think he would be my selection right now.

mjkvol · Post #337 » by **mjkvol** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:51 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Dillon Jones seems to have some elite traits.

His rebounding, playmaking, and scoring are fantastic.

Might be a little to brolic, though. He has a football body.

I think he would be my selection right now.

The one video I watched, he clearly has some BB IQ and court vision, and he's elite going to the rack, but I didn't see him take any perimeter shots. He's a monster, physically, and can probably defend 1-4 with his size, and has the all important dawg in him, which we can use. The question is can he knock down 3's with any consistency?

Kobblehead · Post #338 » by **Kobblehead** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:18 pm

mjkvol wrote:The one video I watched, he clearly has some BB IQ and court vision, and he's elite going to the rack, but I didn't see him take any perimeter shots. He's a monster, physically, and can probably defend 1-4 with his size, and has the all important dawg in him, which we can use. The question is can he knock down 3's with any consistency?

Lack of natural range, for sure.

Tankathon projects him to shoot 35.7% from three. His free throw shooting at 85.7% is pretty promising.

Arsenal · Post #339 » by **Arsenal** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:37 pm

youngcrev wrote:Is Da Silva any good? The scouting reports make him seem like a fit as a Batum replacement. Game highlights are underwhelming. Looks really unathletic

Seeing Da Silva's weak rebounding numbers makes me out on him. Maybe trauma from this Knicks series but I want guys who crash the damn glass.

Arsenal · Post #340 » by **Arsenal** » Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:40 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
mjkvol wrote:The one video I watched, he clearly has some BB IQ and court vision, and he's elite going to the rack, but I didn't see him take any perimeter shots. He's a monster, physically, and can probably defend 1-4 with his size, and has the all important dawg in him, which we can use. The question is can he knock down 3's with any consistency?

Lack of natural range, for sure.

Tankathon projects him to shoot 35.7% from three. His free throw shooting at 85.7% is pretty promising.

That FT% is huge. If his form looks fine he should become a decent to good 3PT shooter.

Tankathon has him early 2nd, would be awesome to get him with our 2nd pick and a slight trade up.

Anyone have any C&S or other shooting metrics on him?