ImageImageImage

Next season

Moderators: HartfordWhalers, BullyKing, sixers hoops, Sixerscan, Foshan

Who do we resign?

Tobias Harris
2
3%
Kelly Oubre
23
38%
De'Anthony Melton
8
13%
Buddy Hield
28
46%
 
Total votes: 61

Wilfried
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,173
And1: 1,909
Joined: May 24, 2007

Next season 

Post#1 » by Wilfried » Tue Mar 12, 2024 9:24 am

Just a question:
Who do you keep - resign this summer? You can pick 2

I'm keeping the old guys (Lowry, Batum, Cov) out, because that will get a vet minimum (from us or somewhere else I guess).
KJ Martin and other Ricky Councils aren't that important so didn't include them, they are easy replaceable.
User avatar
Bum Adebayo
General Manager
Posts: 7,601
And1: 4,014
Joined: Apr 28, 2016
   

Re: Next season 

Post#2 » by Bum Adebayo » Tue Mar 12, 2024 12:16 pm

It depends, what do you want to achieve? if it is to try to win with Embiid in the team, Oubre and Hield are the best options. If you want to tank next year by trading Embiid, go with Harris and Melton.
Great takes since 2024-04-20
Wilfried
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,173
And1: 1,909
Joined: May 24, 2007

Re: Next season 

Post#3 » by Wilfried » Tue Mar 12, 2024 1:01 pm

Bum Adebayo wrote:It depends, what do you want to achieve? if it is to try to win with Embiid in the team, Oubre and Hield are the best options. If you want to tank next year by trading Embiid, go with Harris and Melton.


Off course we go with Joel and Maxey
GoSixersBro
Head Coach
Posts: 6,828
And1: 2,495
Joined: May 26, 2010
   

Re: Next season 

Post#4 » by GoSixersBro » Tue Mar 12, 2024 3:03 pm

Although I love Buddy and think he would've looked great next to Joel this second half of the season, I voted for Kelly.

I think it's more difficult to find a scoring scrapper like Kelly, who can get you 20 in a pinch, than it is to find another sharp shooter like Buddy. Age is also a factor.

Not saying 2.4-3.0 3PM per game guys fall off trees, but there are more out there, some being neglected. See Kevin Huerter in Sacramento who fell off this season due to playing time. Rather go get a guy like him than roll the dice on Buddy.
Here Lies The Process
May 13, 2013 - April 6, 2016
Negrodamus
RealGM
Posts: 23,390
And1: 13,842
Joined: Aug 05, 2004

Re: Next season 

Post#5 » by Negrodamus » Tue Mar 12, 2024 3:27 pm

Hield and Oubre only if they are coming back on cap friendly contracts. If they are looking for another payday on trash teams, then bid them farewell.
M2J
Starter
Posts: 2,385
And1: 1,184
Joined: Sep 04, 2012

Re: Next season 

Post#6 » by M2J » Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:10 pm

All of the above within reasonable value. Even Melton should come cheaper now.

However if just 2. Oubre and Hield
User avatar
76ciology
RealGM
Posts: 61,414
And1: 23,571
Joined: Jun 06, 2002

Re: Next season 

Post#7 » by 76ciology » Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:12 pm

We’re exposing all of these guys by sitting Embiid and Maxey so we can re-sign them for cheap. 4D chess move by Morey.

But Maxey told Melton, his bestfriend on the team, about Morey’s plan.
There’s never been a time in history when we look back and say that the people who were censoring free speech were the good guys.
LeonJordanJr24
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,881
And1: 550
Joined: Jul 18, 2013

Re: Next season 

Post#8 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:35 pm

Oubre,Heild ... Let Tobias go please God.

Lowry,Batum back for cheap.

Try to acquire another gem that fits Embiid and Maxey big forward type.
TheBallsDeeper
Starter
Posts: 2,016
And1: 2,114
Joined: Nov 20, 2017
       

Re: Next season 

Post#9 » by TheBallsDeeper » Wed Mar 13, 2024 2:25 am

If Embiid is as cooked as I think he is - time for a complete rebuild.

I don't know enough about the cap and trades, but is there value in sign and trade for Oubre and Hield or are they better off just walking?
Tobias and Melton both sign somewhere for vet minimum, they don't have any trade value.
Negrodamus
RealGM
Posts: 23,390
And1: 13,842
Joined: Aug 05, 2004

Re: Next season 

Post#10 » by Negrodamus » Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:18 pm

In the event Morey can't trade for a disgruntled Doncic or sign Paul George, Lowry is going to come back as bait to pull DeRozan in; hopefully on a cap friendly deal since he's old AF. Then I'd imagine he'd throw big money at OG or possibly Miles Bridges.

PG: Maxey/Lowry
SG: DeRozan/Hield
SF: ???
PF: OG or Bridges
C: Embiid

Perhaps the SF role will be filled by guys on a "prove it" contract like Oubre this year. Haven't done the deep dive into FA yet, so don't know who that'll be. I think Oubre might be too expensive to come back and he'll be more expensive than his production, unfortunately.
ExplosionsInDaSky
RealGM
Posts: 20,169
And1: 4,518
Joined: Mar 17, 2004

Re: Next season 

Post#11 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:30 pm

I'm fine with any combination of Oubre, Melton, Hield as long as they're not being overpaid. This team is only going to go as far as Embiid and Maxey take us. These guys are all replaceable in my opinion. We need to be done with Harris for sure. Oubre was a nice addition this year, but he's going to make some money this summer. Hield NOT worth a big contract at his age and Melton has back issues.
User avatar
Arsenal
RealGM
Posts: 15,184
And1: 10,148
Joined: Jun 05, 2002
Location: Arlington, VA
 

Re: Next season 

Post#12 » by Arsenal » Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:42 pm

Oubre is likely because he has a very low cap hold like Maxey. We can use an exception to give him a larger deal after using cap space elsewhere.
User avatar
Arsenal
RealGM
Posts: 15,184
And1: 10,148
Joined: Jun 05, 2002
Location: Arlington, VA
 

Re: Next season 

Post#13 » by Arsenal » Wed Mar 13, 2024 1:18 pm

Arsenal wrote:Oubre is likely because he has a very low cap hold like Maxey. We can use an exception to give him a larger deal after using cap space elsewhere.


Unfortunately I was misled! Non-Bird exception only allows us to pay Oubre the vet min again, otherwise we need to dip into cap space or use another standard exception. Too bad!!!
Wilfried
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,173
And1: 1,909
Joined: May 24, 2007

Re: Next season 

Post#14 » by Wilfried » Wed Mar 13, 2024 7:12 pm

Buddy Hield is leading.

Think he will be resigned because they went after him and because he fits well with Joel I guess, but I'm not the biggest fan.
Depends on the salary and lenght of the deal probably (3 years/50 million would be seomething I could live with, but not much more)
Eyeamok
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,528
And1: 3,451
Joined: Mar 02, 2006

Re: Next season 

Post#15 » by Eyeamok » Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:35 pm

Arsenal wrote:
Arsenal wrote:Oubre is likely because he has a very low cap hold like Maxey. We can use an exception to give him a larger deal after using cap space elsewhere.


Unfortunately I was misled! Non-Bird exception only allows us to pay Oubre the vet min again, otherwise we need to dip into cap space or use another standard exception. Too bad!!!


Wait what ! Chances are Oubres won't be here next season? That's absolutely horrible
The Accession of Paul Reed is upon us !

You want it to be one way....but it's the other way.

Marlo
Kobblehead
RealGM
Posts: 40,029
And1: 19,108
Joined: Apr 15, 2010
 

Re: Next season 

Post#16 » by Kobblehead » Wed Mar 13, 2024 10:41 pm

No way you bring back Oubre. You never commit to the knuckleheads. You just bring them in for a year and then cycle them out.

Extend Hield. He's a little on the old side, but he's an optimum fit with Embiid.
Negrodamus
RealGM
Posts: 23,390
And1: 13,842
Joined: Aug 05, 2004

Re: Next season 

Post#17 » by Negrodamus » Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:27 am

I have to believe there was a handshake deal between Morey and Hield’s rep to have him resign this summer.

The question is for how much? (and if Morey will pull the carpet out from underneath that deal)
phifans
Veteran
Posts: 2,793
And1: 586
Joined: Feb 10, 2009
         

Re: Next season 

Post#18 » by phifans » Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:02 am

Why do you keep any of them ? What have they done to be worth of keeping ?
User avatar
Bum Adebayo
General Manager
Posts: 7,601
And1: 4,014
Joined: Apr 28, 2016
   

Re: Next season 

Post#19 » by Bum Adebayo » Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:12 am

phifans wrote:Why do you keep any of them ? What have they done to be worth of keeping ?


Play good basketball basically, also especially with Oubre, doing all the little things that don't show in box scores.
Great takes since 2024-04-20
phifans
Veteran
Posts: 2,793
And1: 586
Joined: Feb 10, 2009
         

Re: Next season 

Post#20 » by phifans » Thu Mar 14, 2024 1:18 am

Bum Adebayo wrote:
phifans wrote:Why do you keep any of them ? What have they done to be worth of keeping ?


Play good basketball basically, also especially with Oubre, doing all the little things that don't show in box scores.


For min sure that won't hurt

Return to Philadelphia 76ers


cron