German National Football Team Thread (Nationalmannschaft)

Det the Threat · Post #581 » by **Det the Threat** » Tue May 31, 2016 7:49 pm

No_20 wrote:Reus has never performed well for the NT. Worst player on the pitch against England.

This should be the line up against Ukraine:

Neuer
Kimmich - Boateng - Mustafi - Hector
Bastian - Kroos
Müller - Özil - Sané
Gomez

So you base your opinion on him on a friendly game and yet, somehow, forget how good he was during the last Euros, his only tournament? :lol:

Schweinsteiger certainly won't be ready for the start of the tournament, something that all of those CM's Löw took with him should guarantee.

The CM will be Khedira(if healthy) and Kroos and I'm pretty sure Höwedes will start at either RB or at one of the CB spots in that 3-5-2 system.
Also, Sané will be an option off the bench and I'm pretty sure he'd start a guy like Götze over him, even though he shouldn't.

Foye · Post #582 » by **Foye** » Tue May 31, 2016 8:47 pm

Sane is not ready for a starting role in an important tournament. He produces way too many costly turnovers with his dribblings.

Also lol at Schweinsteiger...injured since mid January...supposed to be a starter right away :lol:

Neuer
Can-Boateng-Hummels(Mustafi)-Hector
Khedira-Kroos
Müller-Özil-Draxler
Götze

That's how I'd start. :dontknow:

Selke would've been of more use than Gomez, too, if you ask me.

No_20 · Post #583 » by **No_20** » Tue May 31, 2016 10:47 pm

Foye wrote:Sane is not ready for a starting role in an important tournament. He produces way too many costly turnovers with his dribblings.

Also lol at Schweinsteiger...injured since mid January...supposed to be a starter right away

Neuer
Can-Boateng-Hummels(Mustafi)-Hector
Khedira-Kroos
Müller-Özil-Draxler
Götze

That's how I'd start.

Selke would've been of more use than Gomez, too, if you ask me.

Need Bastian to have some games under his belt before the big games in the K.O stages.

Germany wont win this tournament without Bastian playing a big role. You know that.

Det the Threat · Post #584 » by **Det the Threat** » Wed Jun 1, 2016 4:31 am

No_20 wrote:Need Bastian to have some games under his belt before the big games in the K.O stages.

Germany wont win this tournament without Bastian playing a big role. You know that.

That's nice, but it's not like Schweinsteiger didn't sit on the bench for the first few games during the world cup as well...

No_20 · Post #585 » by **No_20** » Sat Jun 4, 2016 5:58 pm

Most wins Germany coaches after #GERHUN 2-0:
96 Seppberger (& won WorldCup)
87 JOACHIM LOW (& won WorldCup)
87 Schon (& won WorldCup)

But Foye, mid-20s, student at Goethe Universität, think he is a rubbish coach.

El Turco · Post #586 » by **El Turco** » Sat Jun 4, 2016 7:19 pm

so do the fenerbahce and adanaspor fanbases

Foye · Post #587 » by **Foye** » Sat Jun 4, 2016 7:43 pm

Actually, I have my master in my pocket for a month now. Studied in Mainz btw. not Goethe.

Anyone can win with the talent level Löw has.

No_20 · Post #588 » by **No_20** » Sat Jun 4, 2016 10:27 pm

Foye wrote:Actually, I have my master in my pocket for a month now. Studied in Mainz btw. not Goethe.

Anyone can win with the talent level Löw has.

You're older than me and Nathan then.

Foye · Post #589 » by **Foye** » Sat Jun 4, 2016 10:33 pm

No_20 · Post #590 » by **No_20** » Sat Jun 4, 2016 10:46 pm

Foye wrote:26

Must be special for a German to be born in the year of 1989.

Foye · Post #591 » by **Foye** » Sat Jun 4, 2016 11:06 pm

No_20 wrote:
Foye wrote:26

Must be special for a German to be born in the year of 1989.

It was a good year in German history but not sure why I should feel special just because I'm born in that year. :lol:

King Julien · Post #592 » by **King Julien** » Sun Jun 5, 2016 9:27 pm

Arda K wrote:so do the fenerbahce and adanaspor fanbases

?? Fenerbahce fans loved him while he was here and still want him to come back some day.

El Turco · Post #593 » by **El Turco** » Sun Jun 5, 2016 9:39 pm

nah i lived in kadikoy half my life, he was seen as incapable of adjustments. they finished 3rd in his only season, lost 3 of the 4 derbies drawing the other one, there is not a single fenerbahce fan that is happy with that performance.

King Julien · Post #594 » by **King Julien** » Sun Jun 5, 2016 10:23 pm

I am a Fenerbahce fan and I was very happy with his performance. And there are many thousands more. People were sad when the president fired him. We were playing very good football with him and even just the performances against Parma were enough for the fans. We would take him back any day.

Also, how well he did in Turkey is meaningless when it comes to his worldwide reputation and true skill as a coach.

El Turco · Post #595 » by **El Turco** » Sun Jun 5, 2016 10:47 pm

You were obviously either too young during low period or just talking outta your ass. The way it works in big turkish clubs is either you win titles or beat your istanbul rivals, failure to do that as it is in low's case means you get chastised by fan base and get run out of town. Save the thousands of fans bullsh*t to somebody that is not aware of the football culture in turkey.

And his performance in turkey certainly matters because outside of managing loaded german team his achievements are simply relegating a german team, relegating a turkish team and massive failure in fenerbahce. In other words he hasnt achieved jacksh*t outside of single german cup win.

Andi Obst · Post #596 » by **Andi Obst** » Tue Jun 7, 2016 8:17 pm

First day in Evian, Rüdiger tears ACL. This sucks.

Captain_Obvious · Post #597 » by **Captain_Obvious** » Tue Jun 7, 2016 8:49 pm

sucks big time

No_20 · Post #598 » by **No_20** » Tue Jun 7, 2016 9:20 pm

Ich denke mal Jogi wird Tah nachnominieren, aber ganz erlich hoffe ich, dass er Robert Huth nimmt. Das wäre unfassbar geil(und auch hochverdient nach seiner starken Saison mit Leicester.)

Foye · Post #599 » by **Foye** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:51 pm

Two more years for Löw.

..he just doesn't seem to know when it's time to quit. Should've stepped down in 2014 already.

Det the Threat · Post #600 » by **Det the Threat** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:18 pm

Foye wrote:Two more years for Löw.

..he just doesn't seem to know when it's time to quit. Should've stepped down in 2014 already.

Well, I've been criticizing him for some time but I actually can't say anything against those "news".
He signed that contract a couple years ago and everyone knew he would stay on for the next WC.

Also, his tactics during the tournament were spot on.
That 3-5-2 against Italy and 4-3-3 against France were good choices and he can't do much about Schweinsteiger's brain fart against France, which cost us the game.
I mean, there wasn't enough fire power on offense(and Müller wasn't good during the tournament, but that's something you could see coming with his form during all of 2016) but that game normally goes to a penalty shootout, with the only chance of goals scored being individual mistakes. And this time around, we made them.

The only thing you could say is that he could/should've taken one more offensive player like Brandt or even Hahn(instead of 6 CM's), while finally cutting mascot Poldi as well.
But that still doesn't guarantee you anything more on offense.

BTW: Schweinsteiger said he doesn't know if he'll keep playing for the team(I think he had a great run but he's done and that would be the best thing for everyone involved) but good 'ol Poldi stated that he wants to stick around.
So that means another tournament with Poldi taking a spot of a guy more deserving and actually able to help the team on the pitch.