2012
Moderators: kdawg32086, magik9113
Re: 2012
- and1GS
- RealGM
- Posts: 25,383
- And1: 2,726
- Joined: Nov 12, 2008
- Location: home of 4x champs, 1x AS starter, supporter of checkbook wins and all-time weakest moves
Re: 2012
It's an integrity thing. It makes football look stupid when its players are biting each other. IDK how you can not realize this isn't about how much being bit actually hurts the player, or as you say 'the result' of it. It's the same as spitting in a player's face. What's gonna hurt more, an outrageous tackle or a little phlegm in your left eyeball? Do you see how ridiculous that sounds?
"The dynasty doesn't start with you, it starts after you"
KevinMcreynolds wrote:hopefully JK laid some pipe on the strip as well, gotta get those reps in
Re: 2012
- IronChef
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,135
- And1: 432
- Joined: Jun 17, 2006
- Location: An anarcho-syndicalist commune
Re: 2012
I do realize it's not just about how much it hurts the player, hence why I said I'm good with a 10 game ban. But, I do think putting someone else's career at risk should be a factor in the punishment, and carry a punishment similar to this, not 7 games less, was my point.
Massimo wrote:Arsene wenger for the president.
Re: 2012
- IronChef
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,135
- And1: 432
- Joined: Jun 17, 2006
- Location: An anarcho-syndicalist commune
Re: 2012
and1GS wrote:It's an integrity thing. It makes football look stupid when its players are biting each other. IDK how you can not realize this isn't about how much being bit actually hurts the player, or as you say 'the result' of it. It's the same as spitting in a player's face. What's gonna hurt more, an outrageous tackle or a little phlegm in your left eyeball? Do you see how ridiculous that sounds?
This is from todays Arseblog. It argues the same points I did, but possibly (probably) in a more a coherent way. Not really trying to rehash the discussion, just to better explain what I was trying to say:
http://arseblog.com
Anyway, all the talk this morning is of Luiz Suarez and the 10 game ban he’s been issued by the FA for gnawing on Branislav Ivanovic. If it seems harsh the very obvious answer is that in order for a player to escape a 10 game ban, he ought not to bite an opponent – especially not when he’s had previous with the FA over being racist.
There’s simply no condoning what he did, you can’t find any excuses for it, and on the face of it a 10 game ban isn’t that unreasonable. He bit a man, for goodness sake. A professional footballer, earning as much money as he does, representing his club, acted like a toddler. If he’s got issues and problems with anger, that’s his look out. Liverpool knew he was capable of being all bitey when they bought him, and after a 7 game ban in Holland for the same thing, they can’t get away with acting shocked and surprised over the antics or the outcome.
What makes the whole thing such a contentious issue is that when it comes to the FA, and their completely arbitrary disciplinary system, it doesn’t make sense when compared with other bans. Suarez himself was given an 8 game for being racist, is nibbling an opponent 2 games worse than that? And why was Suarez’s racism twice as bad as John Terry’s who only got 4 games? Yet his words were deemed half as offensive by The FA. 4 games as opposed to 8. Ben Thatcher was given a 9 game ban for a horrendous elbow on Pedro Mendes. Paulo di Canio 12 games for pushing a referee. Mario Balotelli got away with nothing for this, Callum McManaman escaped punishment for this, yet Shawcross got 3 games for this, Martin Taylor 3 games for this and Dan Smith got just a yellow card for, essentially, destroying Abou Diaby’s career.
Massimo wrote:Arsene wenger for the president.
Re: 2012
- and1GS
- RealGM
- Posts: 25,383
- And1: 2,726
- Joined: Nov 12, 2008
- Location: home of 4x champs, 1x AS starter, supporter of checkbook wins and all-time weakest moves
Re: 2012
I think the fact that he's a repeat offender in a very short time in the EPL adds validity to the 10 game suspension.
LOL a the Fellaini silver fro...I pray that happens.
LOL a the Fellaini silver fro...I pray that happens.
"The dynasty doesn't start with you, it starts after you"
KevinMcreynolds wrote:hopefully JK laid some pipe on the strip as well, gotta get those reps in
Re: 2012
- J-Mezzy
- RealGM
- Posts: 21,281
- And1: 3,220
- Joined: Jan 21, 2004
- Location: Orlando
Re: 2012
I keep hearing that Suarez might be out of the EPL. Why is that? Will Liverpool sell him due to his probles? Does Suarez want out because he feels he is being picked on? Is the FA pressuring Liverpool to get rid of him?
Re: 2012
- Man of Steel
- Lead Assistant
- Posts: 4,610
- And1: 548
- Joined: Jun 03, 2010
- Location: Toronto
Re: 2012
SlavaMedvedenko wrote:
New club crest
I liked the look of the red and gold crest. This one reminds me of a red rework of the chelsea crest. Always liked the idea of adding stars for WCs and UCLs. Perhaps RM will add one if/when we win the tenth.
HALA MADRID || GO LEAFS GO || LET'S GO RAPTORS
Re: 2012
- trwi7
- RealGM
- Posts: 110,885
- And1: 26,402
- Joined: Jul 12, 2006
- Location: Aussie bias
Re: 2012
Shame. That crest would be the only tolerable thing about Manchester United.
stellation wrote:What's the difference between Gery Woelful and this glass of mineral water? The mineral water actually has a source."
I Hate Manure wrote:We look to be awful next season without Beasley.
Re: 2012
- Next Coming
- Retired Mod
- Posts: 18,956
- And1: 1,625
- Joined: Aug 17, 2004
- Location: War Room
Re: 2012
FA says Luis Suarez's other offenses didn't factor into the 10 game ban but being Twitter's #1 TT did.
They're making it up as they go.
They're making it up as they go.
Re: 2012
- Next Coming
- Retired Mod
- Posts: 18,956
- And1: 1,625
- Joined: Aug 17, 2004
- Location: War Room
Re: 2012
trwi7 wrote:
Shame. That crest would be the only tolerable thing about Manchester United.
That and De Gea/Kagawa/Hernandez.
Re: 2012
- El Turco
- GOTB Fantasy Basketball Ultimate 2x Champion
- Posts: 52,133
- And1: 20,560
- Joined: Apr 11, 2007
- Location: Frisco
Re: 2012
there must be some rabies epidemic going on in england that makes them this concerned, 10 games is ridiculous especially if you don't take his past into consideration
TheLowlySquire wrote:Wow, Arda! Huge!
Howard Mass wrote:Arda is not a terrorist. Arda is a good person.
Re: 2012
- Midway Bully
- Assistant Coach
- Posts: 4,018
- And1: 375
- Joined: Jul 11, 2010
- Location: John Salmon's jab step
Re: 2012
Has anyone pointed out that Larry Sanders looks somewhat like Danny Welbeck?
good intentions are microscopic to fat pockets
Re: 2012
- BUCKnation
- RealGM
- Posts: 17,272
- And1: 2,958
- Joined: Jun 15, 2011
Re: 2012
Midway Bully wrote:Has anyone pointed out that Larry Sanders looks somewhat like Danny Welbeck?
Eh, I can sort of see it.
Re: 2012
- Next Coming
- Retired Mod
- Posts: 18,956
- And1: 1,625
- Joined: Aug 17, 2004
- Location: War Room
Re: 2012
SlavaMedvedenko wrote:I actually liked his statement this time that he would not appeal the ban. May be they finally go their PR act together and made a coherent statement that does not indicate any victim complex.
Assume you're talking about how they handled the racism thing last year or something else?
Return to The General Soccer Board