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Re: 2012 

Post#1481 » by and1GS » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:37 pm

It's an integrity thing. It makes football look stupid when its players are biting each other. IDK how you can not realize this isn't about how much being bit actually hurts the player, or as you say 'the result' of it. It's the same as spitting in a player's face. What's gonna hurt more, an outrageous tackle or a little phlegm in your left eyeball? Do you see how ridiculous that sounds?
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Re: 2012 

Post#1482 » by IronChef » Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:15 am

I do realize it's not just about how much it hurts the player, hence why I said I'm good with a 10 game ban. But, I do think putting someone else's career at risk should be a factor in the punishment, and carry a punishment similar to this, not 7 games less, was my point.
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Re: 2012 

Post#1483 » by Slava » Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:15 am

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Re: 2012 

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Re: 2012 

Post#1485 » by IronChef » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:10 pm

and1GS wrote:It's an integrity thing. It makes football look stupid when its players are biting each other. IDK how you can not realize this isn't about how much being bit actually hurts the player, or as you say 'the result' of it. It's the same as spitting in a player's face. What's gonna hurt more, an outrageous tackle or a little phlegm in your left eyeball? Do you see how ridiculous that sounds?



This is from todays Arseblog. It argues the same points I did, but possibly (probably) in a more a coherent way. Not really trying to rehash the discussion, just to better explain what I was trying to say:

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Anyway, all the talk this morning is of Luiz Suarez and the 10 game ban he’s been issued by the FA for gnawing on Branislav Ivanovic. If it seems harsh the very obvious answer is that in order for a player to escape a 10 game ban, he ought not to bite an opponent – especially not when he’s had previous with the FA over being racist.

There’s simply no condoning what he did, you can’t find any excuses for it, and on the face of it a 10 game ban isn’t that unreasonable. He bit a man, for goodness sake. A professional footballer, earning as much money as he does, representing his club, acted like a toddler. If he’s got issues and problems with anger, that’s his look out. Liverpool knew he was capable of being all bitey when they bought him, and after a 7 game ban in Holland for the same thing, they can’t get away with acting shocked and surprised over the antics or the outcome.

What makes the whole thing such a contentious issue is that when it comes to the FA, and their completely arbitrary disciplinary system, it doesn’t make sense when compared with other bans. Suarez himself was given an 8 game for being racist, is nibbling an opponent 2 games worse than that? And why was Suarez’s racism twice as bad as John Terry’s who only got 4 games? Yet his words were deemed half as offensive by The FA. 4 games as opposed to 8. Ben Thatcher was given a 9 game ban for a horrendous elbow on Pedro Mendes. Paulo di Canio 12 games for pushing a referee. Mario Balotelli got away with nothing for this, Callum McManaman escaped punishment for this, yet Shawcross got 3 games for this, Martin Taylor 3 games for this and Dan Smith got just a yellow card for, essentially, destroying Abou Diaby’s career.
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Re: 2012 

Post#1486 » by and1GS » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:01 pm

I think the fact that he's a repeat offender in a very short time in the EPL adds validity to the 10 game suspension.

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Re: 2012 

Post#1487 » by Slava » Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:51 am

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Re: 2012 

Post#1488 » by J-Mezzy » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:17 am

I keep hearing that Suarez might be out of the EPL. Why is that? Will Liverpool sell him due to his probles? Does Suarez want out because he feels he is being picked on? Is the FA pressuring Liverpool to get rid of him?
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Re: 2012 

Post#1489 » by Massimo » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:29 am

Because he is a dog not a player.
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Re: 2012 

Post#1490 » by Man of Steel » Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:18 am

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I liked the look of the red and gold crest. This one reminds me of a red rework of the chelsea crest. Always liked the idea of adding stars for WCs and UCLs. Perhaps RM will add one if/when we win the tenth.
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Re: 2012 

Post#1491 » by Slava » Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:20 am

I read it on some website, so not sure if that crest is confirmed.

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Re: 2012 

Post#1492 » by Le Roi » Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:42 am

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Re: 2012 

Post#1493 » by trwi7 » Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:28 pm

FourthQuarter wrote:The crest is fake.

http://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments ... d_crest_i/


Shame. That crest would be the only tolerable thing about Manchester United.
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Re: 2012 

Post#1494 » by Next Coming » Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:29 pm

FA says Luis Suarez's other offenses didn't factor into the 10 game ban but being Twitter's #1 TT did.

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Re: 2012 

Post#1495 » by Next Coming » Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:34 pm

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FourthQuarter wrote:The crest is fake.

http://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments ... d_crest_i/


Shame. That crest would be the only tolerable thing about Manchester United.


That and De Gea/Kagawa/Hernandez.
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Re: 2012 

Post#1496 » by El Turco » Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:36 pm

there must be some rabies epidemic going on in england that makes them this concerned, 10 games is ridiculous especially if you don't take his past into consideration
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Re: 2012 

Post#1497 » by Slava » Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:56 pm

I actually liked his statement this time that he would not appeal the ban. May be they finally go their PR act together and made a coherent statement that does not indicate any victim complex.
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Re: 2012 

Post#1498 » by Midway Bully » Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:14 pm

Has anyone pointed out that Larry Sanders looks somewhat like Danny Welbeck?
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Re: 2012 

Post#1499 » by BUCKnation » Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:19 pm

Midway Bully wrote:Has anyone pointed out that Larry Sanders looks somewhat like Danny Welbeck?

Eh, I can sort of see it.
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Re: 2012 

Post#1500 » by Next Coming » Fri Apr 26, 2013 5:43 pm

SlavaMedvedenko wrote:I actually liked his statement this time that he would not appeal the ban. May be they finally go their PR act together and made a coherent statement that does not indicate any victim complex.


Assume you're talking about how they handled the racism thing last year or something else?

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