Top 15 players in the world?

MaliBrah · Post #361 » by **MaliBrah** » Wed Oct 1, 2014 11:00 pm

ardee wrote:Ramsey should be higher.

I think he should swap rambo and sterling , other than that. Can't really argue ramsey is better than anyone else ahead of him at the moment.

El Turco · Post #362 » by **El Turco** » Wed Oct 1, 2014 11:01 pm

hazard is top 3 no matter how you cut it

No_20 · Post #363 » by **No_20** » Wed Oct 1, 2014 11:13 pm

El Turco wrote:hazard is top 3 no matter how you cut it

He disappears in big games and is horrible for the national team.

El Turco · Post #364 » by **El Turco** » Wed Oct 1, 2014 11:20 pm

you're going to have to start backing up these disappears in big games narratives that you're so fond of.

he has 4 goals and 8 assists in 16 games for national teams past two years, far from horrible considering wilmots don't know how to use him.

No_20 · Post #365 » by **No_20** » Wed Oct 1, 2014 11:28 pm

El Turco wrote:you're going to have to start backing up these disappears in big games narratives that you're so fond of.

he has 4 goals and 8 assists in 16 games for national teams past two years, far from horrible considering wilmots don't know how to use him.

Lol it's 50 games, 6 goals(against Kazakhstan, Macedonia, Montenegro, Slovakia, Sweden)

Compare that to, let's say, Neymar who has 36 goals in 56 games. And he's scored against Germany, Spain, Italy, Argentina and so on.

El Turco · Post #366 » by **El Turco** » Wed Oct 1, 2014 11:40 pm

And let's say neymar plays a different position on the field, one that makes him to be the main target of every ball that comes forward in much more free flowing team. Aint that something.

No_20 · Post #367 » by **No_20** » Thu Oct 2, 2014 12:32 am

Didnt Hazard play LW at the World Cup?

Dont know what's wrong with that.

SniperHawk10 · Post #368 » by **SniperHawk10** » Thu Oct 2, 2014 8:29 am

SniperHawk10 · Post #369 » by **SniperHawk10** » Thu Oct 2, 2014 8:30 am

DD12 wrote:Becayse the team that he is playing for is all about system. Messi could be gone, someone else can have the same impact. It is not about individuals in that its all about the system.

Lol you haven't watched any recent barca games have you
With Messi dropping more deep in the midfield and creating for the team with his ability to hold the ball, get around the opposition and pick the perfect pass..
No, other players can't easily have the same impact.

Disliking a player is fine, I dislike Ronaldo, but don't come out as ignorant when talking about them.

lukekarts · Post #370 » by **lukekarts** » Thu Oct 2, 2014 8:37 am

We're all going to disagree to some extent, but I'll give it my best shot in reworking No_20's list (of 14 players) into tiers.

The Elite
Neymar
Courtois
Alaba
Hazard
Pogba
Gotze
Kroos

The pretty damn good - but still need to prove themselves a bit more
James Rodriguez
Koke
Sterling
Ramsey
Pjanic

The talented but really need to get it together
Lukaku
Balotelli

Foye · Post #371 » by **Foye** » Thu Oct 2, 2014 12:08 pm

In terms of individual talent Hazard is probably the top player in born in 90s.

However his workrate is poor and he disappears too often.

cgf · Post #372 » by **cgf** » Thu Oct 2, 2014 3:44 pm

These lists feature a distinct lack of Alan Dzagoev.

El Turco · Post #373 » by **El Turco** » Thu Oct 2, 2014 5:52 pm

No_20 wrote:Didnt Hazard play LW at the World Cup?

Dont know what's wrong with that.

he always played behind a striker, werent given a cut back lane and his team sat back most of the time. neymar was the only legit scoring option for a team that had the most scoring chances until the semi finals.

Boognish · Post #374 » by **Boognish** » Thu Oct 2, 2014 6:10 pm

Shoutout to Christian Eriksen, I think he edges a few out on the list

Post #375 » by **Baphomet** » Thu Oct 2, 2014 6:41 pm

Boognish wrote:Shoutout to Christian Eriksen, I think he edges a few out on the list

He hasn't started this season too well, but he's a great talent. Was outplaying many of the more high profile midfielders in the EPL, towards the end of last season.

I think Immobile and Destro might have a case for a 'players born in the 90s' top 15, too.

Doormatt · Post #376 » by **Doormatt** » Fri Oct 3, 2014 2:14 am

cgf wrote:These lists feature a distinct lack of Alan Dzagoev.

i dont see how hes better than any of the players mentioned so far, theres been people not mentioned (like immobile and eriksen until now) that are clearly better as well.

DD12 · Post #377 » by **DD12** » Fri Oct 3, 2014 2:20 am

Doormatt wrote:
cgf wrote:These lists feature a distinct lack of Alan Dzagoev.

i dont see how hes better than any of the players mentioned so far, theres been people not mentioned (like immobile and eriksen until now) that are clearly better as well.

Schar > Dzagoev

Who the hell is dzagoev? Cannot even make XI in terrible Russia national team. He wasnt even playing for his team CSKA.

ZUDAMAGIC · Post #378 » by **ZUDAMAGIC** » Fri Oct 3, 2014 3:07 am

lukekarts wrote:
No_20 wrote:Lets try this. Top 15 best players born in the 90s:

1. Neymar
2. Courtois
3. Kroos
4. Alaba
5. Hazard
6. Alaba
7. Hamez
8. Koke
9. Pogba
10. Götze
11. Sterling
12. Ramsey
13. Lukaku
14. Pjanic
15. Balotelli

I'm a little sceptical of your Alaba ranking(s)!

Also, Balotelli probably shouldn't be on this kind of list

Balotelli is better than pjanic and lukaku

Foye · Post #379 » by **Foye** » Fri Oct 3, 2014 3:49 pm

ZUDAMAGIC wrote:
lukekarts wrote:
No_20 wrote:Lets try this. Top 15 best players born in the 90s:

1. Neymar
2. Courtois
3. Kroos
4. Alaba
5. Hazard
6. Alaba
7. Hamez
8. Koke
9. Pogba
10. Götze
11. Sterling
12. Ramsey
13. Lukaku
14. Pjanic
15. Balotelli

I'm a little sceptical of your Alaba ranking(s)!

Also, Balotelli probably shouldn't be on this kind of list

Balotelli is better than pjanic and lukaku

No.

Ong_dynasty · Post #380 » by **Ong_dynasty** » Fri Oct 3, 2014 4:10 pm

lol Balotelli in the top 15.
I mean is he even an above average striker? has he even scored 10 goals in the league from open play?