Transfer Thread: 2023 -> 2024

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Post#341 » by The_Brecht » Fri Sep 1, 2023 3:26 pm

stormi wrote:All I desperately need today is a Gallagher buzzer beater bomb to Spurs.

Nusa & Moscardo are cherries on top. but Gallagher departing is essential.


I rate Gallagher tbf.
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Post#342 » by stormi » Fri Sep 1, 2023 3:27 pm

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HIF wrote:Cole Palmer to chelsea. Why would Man City sell such a talent - and to a rival?

I was really hoping the Enzo connection could land him on loan until he once again played out of his skin in pre-season.

I've only seen him in a few matches, but he profiles to me as a 9 that can do other things? The price seems good for City for a player that is duplicative based on the squad they have and their recent buys. Maybe Chelsea isn't sold on Jackson as the 9 until (or even really after) Nkunku returns.


Jackson vs Liverpool, Jackson @ West Ham and Jackson vs Luton are probably three of the best #9 displays the shirt has seen since Didier. Absolute monster. Him and Enzo have been colossal thus far.

Palmer is being brought in to play #10 and supply depth out wide.

For as monstrous as Jackson has been, too often he's had to drop extremely deep, turn and drive past defenders because the link up top hasn't been great without a real creative attacking midfielder. Gallagher is there providing cardio, but his passing is far too regressive to be a difference maker in that position.

Nkunku was filling that position that Gallagher has been in before he did his knee in pre-season. He should be coming back in coming months, but by then Jackson will depart to AFCON. Things go as planned and while he's away Nkunku #9, Palmer #10.

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Post#343 » by stormi » Fri Sep 1, 2023 3:30 pm

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stormi wrote:All I desperately need today is a Gallagher buzzer beater bomb to Spurs.

Nusa & Moscardo are cherries on top. but Gallagher departing is essential.


I rate Gallagher tbf.
Should do really good at Spuds.


Good foot soldier and he has a great attitude. I think for Chelsea when you're in the position of being offered upwards of £40 million for your 5th of 6th choice midfielder, it's a no-brainer.

Caicedo, Enzo, Lavia, Palmer, Ugochukwu are all ahead of him on the depth chart.
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Post#344 » by Baphomet » Fri Sep 1, 2023 4:18 pm

Sangare to Forest is a good signing for them. I think he's a decent player.
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Post#345 » by LDNMagic90 » Fri Sep 1, 2023 5:07 pm

So wait Bayern flipped Gravenberch for a profit despite not really setting the world alight?

And the Palhinha deal fell through as well due to Fulham not finding a suitable replacement in time
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Post#346 » by HIF » Fri Sep 1, 2023 6:14 pm

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stormi wrote:All I desperately need today is a Gallagher buzzer beater bomb to Spurs.

Nusa & Moscardo are cherries on top. but Gallagher departing is essential.


I rate Gallagher tbf.
Should do really good at Spuds.


He is so overrated it's not true.
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Post#347 » by HIF » Fri Sep 1, 2023 6:16 pm

I've been giving Liverpool defence a hard time, but imagine my laughter when I saw that Jonny Evans (injured) is going back to Man U.
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Post#348 » by Baphomet » Fri Sep 1, 2023 6:48 pm

I'm also in the camp that doesn't really rate Gallagher and there are other long-term CM signings that I'd prefer. When Bentancur is back, I can't see Gallagher getting a game here. Doesn't make a lot of sense. Looks like it's not going to happen, though, due to lack of outgoings.

I don't think he's that much better than Hojbjerg or Skipp.
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Post#349 » by stormi » Fri Sep 1, 2023 11:06 pm

LDNMagic90 wrote:So wait Bayern flipped Gravenberch for a profit despite not really setting the world alight?

And the Palhinha deal fell through as well due to Fulham not finding a suitable replacement in time


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Post#350 » by stormi » Fri Sep 1, 2023 11:13 pm

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Post#351 » by HIF » Sat Sep 2, 2023 9:08 am

Baphomet wrote:I'm also in the camp that doesn't really rate Gallagher and there are other long-term CM signings that I'd prefer. When Bentancur is back, I can't see Gallagher getting a game here. Doesn't make a lot of sense. Looks like it's not going to happen, though, due to lack of outgoings.

I don't think he's that much better than Hojbjerg or Skipp.


I would rate Hojberg much better than both Skipp and Gallagher.
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Post#352 » by Baseline81 » Mon Sep 4, 2023 8:35 pm

stormi wrote:Jackson vs Liverpool, Jackson @ West Ham and Jackson vs Luton are probably three of the best #9 displays the shirt has seen since Didier. Absolute monster. Him and Enzo have been colossal thus far.

How was Jackson against Nottingham Forest?

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Post#353 » by El Turco » Mon Sep 4, 2023 8:39 pm

Baphomet wrote:Sangare to Forest is a good signing for them. I think he's a decent player.


we got sanchez and ndombele, waste of money or what?
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Post#354 » by Baphomet » Mon Sep 4, 2023 9:08 pm

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Baphomet wrote:Sangare to Forest is a good signing for them. I think he's a decent player.


we got sanchez and ndombele, waste of money or what?


I think Sanchez can still be a decent CB. He's shown flashes recently, but under Mourinho and Conte he was a mistake-riddled mess with no confidence. Those coaches sucked the life out of him. With the right tutelage he still has the physical attributes to contribute at a pretty high level, I think.

Ndombele on the other hand is a wasteman. Just strolls around the pitch uninterested and looks absolutely exhausted after 30 minutes. He'll give you a few fancy stepovers or pinpoint pass now and then, but if he carries over the lack of effort he's shown at Spurs he will be crucified by the Turkish fans.
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Post#355 » by El Turco » Tue Sep 5, 2023 12:51 pm

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Baphomet wrote:Sangare to Forest is a good signing for them. I think he's a decent player.


we got sanchez and ndombele, waste of money or what?


I think Sanchez can still be a decent CB. He's shown flashes recently, but under Mourinho and Conte he was a mistake-riddled mess with no confidence. Those coaches sucked the life out of him. With the right tutelage he still has the physical attributes to contribute at a pretty high level, I think.

Ndombele on the other hand is a wasteman. Just strolls around the pitch uninterested and looks absolutely exhausted after 30 minutes. He'll give you a few fancy stepovers or pinpoint pass now and then, but if he carries over the lack of effort he's shown at Spurs he will be crucified by the Turkish fans.


Then it's a good thing Ndombele was a loan deal without obligation to buy. It was bit of a last minute panic deal i guess, Gala has a giant hole in the middle and instead of fixing it whole summer they kept buying wingers.

Ramos was going to come instead of Sanchez to play in CL, but after negotiating for more money for some reason he decided to take tenth of the salary to go back to Sevilla. Gala coach is pretty chill, Sanchez shouldn't have the same problems.
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Post#356 » by Baseline81 » Wed Sep 6, 2023 12:00 pm

Updated data on net spend since 2014:

1. Manchester United 1.39bn
2. Chelsea 1.03bn
3. PSG 1.01bn
4. Arsenal 872m
5. Manchester City 856m
6. Newcastle United 671m
7. Barcelona 663m
8. Tottenham Hotspur 609m
9. AC Milan 545m
10. West Ham United 526m

For what it's worth, Liverpool is 12th, even behind Aston Villa, and less than 100m ahead of Everton and Crystal Palace.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/38337278/man-united-record-biggest-transfer-loss-2014-cies-study
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Post#357 » by Shaazzam » Wed Sep 6, 2023 3:32 pm

Baseline81 wrote:Updated data on net spend since 2014:

1. Manchester United 1.39bn
2. Chelsea 1.03bn
3. PSG 1.01bn
4. Arsenal 872m
5. Manchester City 856m
6. Newcastle United 671m
7. Barcelona 663m
8. Tottenham Hotspur 609m
9. AC Milan 545m
10. West Ham United 526m

For what it's worth, Liverpool is 12th, even behind Aston Villa, and less than 100m ahead of Everton and Crystal Palace.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/38337278/man-united-record-biggest-transfer-loss-2014-cies-study

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Post#358 » by Baphomet » Wed Sep 6, 2023 5:07 pm

Baseline81 wrote:Updated data on net spend since 2014:

1. Manchester United 1.39bn
2. Chelsea 1.03bn
3. PSG 1.01bn
4. Arsenal 872m
5. Manchester City 856m
6. Newcastle United 671m
7. Barcelona 663m
8. Tottenham Hotspur 609m
9. AC Milan 545m
10. West Ham United 526m

For what it's worth, Liverpool is 12th, even behind Aston Villa, and less than 100m ahead of Everton and Crystal Palace.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/38337278/man-united-record-biggest-transfer-loss-2014-cies-study


All that says to me is that Liverpool develop and get decent money for their assets while other clubs struggle to shift their deadweight. According to the same CIES report, not factoring in outgoings, Liverpool spent the 4th largest amount in the Premier League on players in that timespan, which is about where you'd expect them to be, behind the oil clubs like City and Chelsea and dunce clubs like United, but ahead of everyone else.

I don't have the exact figures, but I'd wager Liverpool spend more on wages/salary than a lot of those clubs too.
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Post#359 » by MetalFingaz » Wed Sep 6, 2023 8:23 pm

Baphomet wrote:
Baseline81 wrote:Updated data on net spend since 2014:

1. Manchester United 1.39bn
2. Chelsea 1.03bn
3. PSG 1.01bn
4. Arsenal 872m
5. Manchester City 856m
6. Newcastle United 671m
7. Barcelona 663m
8. Tottenham Hotspur 609m
9. AC Milan 545m
10. West Ham United 526m

For what it's worth, Liverpool is 12th, even behind Aston Villa, and less than 100m ahead of Everton and Crystal Palace.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/38337278/man-united-record-biggest-transfer-loss-2014-cies-study


All that says to me is that Liverpool develop and get decent money for their assets while other clubs struggle to shift their deadweight. According to the same CIES report, not factoring in outgoings, Liverpool spent the 4th largest amount in the Premier League on players in that timespan, which is about where you'd expect them to be, behind the oil clubs like City and Chelsea and dunce clubs like United, but ahead of everyone else.

I don't have the exact figures, but I'd wager Liverpool spend more on wages/salary than a lot of those clubs too.


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Post#360 » by Baseline81 » Wed Sep 6, 2023 11:04 pm

Baphomet wrote:All that says to me is that Liverpool develop and get decent money for their assets while other clubs struggle to shift their deadweight. According to the same CIES report, not factoring in outgoings, Liverpool spent the 4th largest amount in the Premier League on players in that timespan, which is about where you'd expect them to be, behind the oil clubs like City and Chelsea and dunce clubs like United, but ahead of everyone else.

I don't have the exact figures, but I'd wager Liverpool spend more on wages/salary than a lot of those clubs too.

For me, what jumps out isn't how much smaller Liverpool's net spend is to top-4 rivals, but how close it is to bottom- and mid-table clubs.

Yes, LFC have done well in regards to transfer fees received on outgoing players. However, the worrying part is how they continue to put limits on themselves. Those limits have allowed lower clubs to surpass them in spending, which, given the revenue Liverpool generate, shouldn't be happening.

And with the likes of Fabinho, Firmino, Henderson, Keita, Milner and Ox off the books, the wage bill should have come down. Next summer, Thiago and Matip leave on a free to open even more room.

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