grant hill finishes 7th in voting for dpoy

schnakenpopanz · Post #1 » by **schnakenpopanz** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:08 am

congrats.
http://www.nba.com/2011/news/04/18/dwig ... ef:nbahpt2
he is a top defender, underrated.

nevetsov · Post #2 » by **nevetsov** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:12 am

Awesome, hope he doesn't get overlooked for an all defensive team like Marion was when he finished something like 5th.

He shouldn't if he's the top ranked defensive SF.

Post #3 » by **TASTIC** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:52 am

That's awesome...some recognition for a crafty vet who basically took it upon himself to become our defensive go to guy

Kudos...

sunskerr · Post #4 » by **sunskerr** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:57 am

Didnt he hold his man to something like 39% fg?

whambamslam · Post #5 » by **whambamslam** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:12 am

He even got a first place vote! Looking at past winners of DPOY I didn't realize that the award is really always given to a big man. Only Artest in 03-04 and Gary Payton in 95-96 have won it in the past 20 years

Post #6 » by **lilfishi22** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:34 am

If he was playing for the C's or the Bulls, he'd definitely be much higher up. His defense doesn't get league-wide recognition because he's on a crappy defensive team like the Suns. It's a shame really.

Post #7 » by **lilfishi22** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:38 am

whambamslam wrote:He even got a first place vote! Looking at past winners of DPOY I didn't realize that the award is really always given to a big man. Only Artest in 03-04 and Gary Payton in 95-96 have won it in the past 20 years

Yeah but the fact is, it's rare for a wing defender to have the same defensive presence or culture changing defense as a defensive big man. Much easier to have an anchor at the 4 or 5 spot than on the wings.

nevetsov · Post #8 » by **nevetsov** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:46 am

What's the bet that, even though Tony Allen finished 4th and Hill finished 7th (highest rated wings), Kobe and LeBron still get voted all defensive first team...

Post #9 » by **lilfishi22** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:13 am

I'll take that bet.

Post #10 » by **TASTIC** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:04 am

How has nobody mentioned KEITH BOGANS got a vote for Def Player of the Year?! Not just a vote, but a FIRST vote. So somebody legitimately thinks Keith Bogans is the BEST defensive player in the NBA? they need their voting rights stripped

sunskerr · Post #11 » by **sunskerr** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:45 am

TASTIC wrote:How has nobody mentioned KEITH BOGANS got a vote for Def Player of the Year?! Not just a vote, but a FIRST vote. So somebody legitimately thinks Keith Bogans is the BEST defensive player in the NBA? they need their voting rights stripped

Steve Nash is the best defensive player in the NBA.

nevetsov · Post #12 » by **nevetsov** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:53 am

Defensive stopper on the best defensive team? ... Nah, clutching at straws, can't help you mate. Not even sportswriters are that (Please Use More Appropriate Word).. Right?

Maybe Mrs Bogans works for the Tribune..

Sun Scorched · Post #13 » by **Sun Scorched** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:15 pm

In my opinion, Garnett's defensive impact has become increasingly overrated. I think Duncan plays D better currently, and he's almost all the way down the list.

Congrats Grant. An amazing acheivement for someone who's turning 39!

JohnVancouver · Post #14 » by **JohnVancouver** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:21 pm

TASTIC wrote:How has nobody mentioned KEITH BOGANS got a vote for Def Player of the Year?! Not just a vote, but a FIRST vote. So somebody legitimately thinks Keith Bogans is the BEST defensive player in the NBA? they need their voting rights stripped

You can't blame Mrs Bogans for voting for her kid

Post #15 » by **Qwigglez** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:46 pm

If the Suns made the playoffs with a top 6 seed he'd probably be top 3 for sure.

Post #16 » by **Miklo** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:56 pm

Haha, I've even heard Bulls fans say Bogans is the worst starting SG in the NBA. I totally don't get it, especially because I wouldn't even pick him as the best defensive wing out of that team! Brewer is definitely better in that regard.

YFZblu · Post #17 » by **YFZblu** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:33 pm

Great to see Gortat and Hill take a stand defensively this season. How can you not love a team that has Nash/Dudley/Gortat/Hill/Frye on it??