Official Draft Discussion Thread

DirtyDez · Post #1066 » by **DirtyDez** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 1:45 am

Gambo squashed the #2 rumors but he said the interest in Flynn is real. A Wolves fan suggested #13 and Pietrus for Flynn and #20. I'd do it and draft Tyler.

JMac1 · Post #1067 » by **JMac1** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 2:48 am

DirtyDez wrote:Gambo squashed the #2 rumors but he said the interest in Flynn is real. A Wolves fan suggested #13 and Pietrus for Flynn and #20. I'd do it and draft Tyler.

That's horrible!!!!!

BobbieL · Post #1068 » by **BobbieL** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 2:50 am

DirtyDez wrote:Gambo squashed the #2 rumors but he said the interest in Flynn is real. A Wolves fan suggested #13 and Pietrus for Flynn and #20. I'd do it and draft Tyler.

I am not sure I like giving up the 13th pick and Pietrus for Flynn. But that would mean Aaron Brooks is gone so there goes that first round draft choice. I don't think Flynn has the value to warrant moving down 7 spots.

DirtyDez · Post #1069 » by **DirtyDez** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 2:58 am

BobbieL wrote:
DirtyDez wrote:Gambo squashed the #2 rumors but he said the interest in Flynn is real. A Wolves fan suggested #13 and Pietrus for Flynn and #20. I'd do it and draft Tyler.

I am not sure I like giving up the 13th pick and Pietrus for Flynn. But that would mean Aaron Brooks is gone so there goes that first round draft choice. I don't think Flynn has the value to warrant moving down 7 spots.

Aaron Brooks has no part of the Suns future. The trade was a mistake and picking up his option to try and justify it doesn't make sense. The Suns obviously see potential in Flynn who talented but played in Minnesota, lol. What PG has had sucess there? We unload Pietrus' 5 mil and move back and take Tyler... Just throwing it out there ha.

thamadkant · Post #1070 » by **thamadkant** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:05 am

The idea of trading for Brooks was to use him as trade bait in the off-season (NOW).... the question is can the Suns trade Brooks on draft night? or wait until December?

Revived · Post #1071 » by **Revived** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:55 am

If the Suns trade #13 for Flynn, I will burn down Babby's house.

It ain't a threat, its a promise.

I don't get why the Suns are suddenly interested in PGs that had fluke seasons the year before but now suck. First Aaron Brooks who had a fluke season and won MIP, then Flynn who had a fluke season in 09 as well and played decent.

Might as well trade for Brandon Jennings too then.

Post #1072 » by **rsavaj** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:56 am

I don't think Gambo really knows much more than we do.

YouTube · Post #1073 » by **Kerrsed** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 4:26 am

sunsfan88 wrote:If the Suns trade #13 for Flynn, I will burn down Babby's house.

It ain't a threat, its a promise.

I don't get why the Suns are suddenly interested in PGs that had fluke seasons the year before but now suck.

Flynns rookie season was no fluke. He took a step back in his sophomore season as he missed 28 games due to a nagging hip injury and struggled with the complexities of Kurt Rambis' triangle offense. When he came back from his sip injury, Ridnour was doing great in the triangle and took over the starting spot.

Same thing in Houston.

JohnVancouver · Post #1074 » by **JohnVancouver** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 4:38 am

DirtyDez wrote:Gambo squashed the #2 rumors but he said the interest in Flynn is real. A Wolves fan suggested #13 and Pietrus for Flynn and #20. I'd do it and draft Tyler.

That seems kind of like a lateral move

JMac1 · Post #1075 » by **JMac1** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 4:40 am

rsavaj wrote:I don't think Gambo really knows much more than we do.

Post #1076 » by **TASTIC** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 8:48 am

So what, we S&T Brooks or what?

It would be ludicrous (but not surprising) if Brooks goes for nothing hence we GAVE UP A 1ST and DRAGIC for nothing...ugh

If we get Flynn, fine...but Brooks better be moved for something 'decent'...I wonder if SAC (with Dalembert a FA) would be interested in something like Brooks + Lopez for Thompson + 2nd rounder

JohnVancouver · Post #1077 » by **JohnVancouver** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:21 pm

TASTIC wrote:So what, we S&T Brooks or what?

It would be ludicrous (but not surprising) if Brooks goes for nothing hence we GAVE UP A 1ST and DRAGIC for nothing...ugh

If we get Flynn, fine...but Brooks better be moved for something 'decent'...I wonder if SAC (with Dalembert a FA) would be interested in something like Brooks + Lopez for Thompson + 2nd rounder

I could get behind that -

as I read up on Flynn maybe I'm being unfair. He impressed the hell out of a lot of people. Maybe I only remember that he struggled last season. From what I know now I'd take him over Brooks

JohnVancouver · Post #1078 » by **JohnVancouver** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 3:46 pm

Markieff gets high marks in CHA

"If Kansas's Markieff Morris plays as well as he talks, he'll be a very good NBA player. Morris, on what it's like to audition for all-time great (and Bobcats owner) Jordan:

"I felt it when he came in the gym - I just felt his greatness. ... The lights brightened. And you can see they went down a little bit (in Jordan's absence). That brightness, you just feel it on your back."

Morris, a 6-9 power forward (and twin to Marcus Morris, another first-round candidate), might have been the best of the six players auditioned Thursday. Said Silas: "A very good shooter. He was tough and understands how to play the game. I think he has a chance to really be good."

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... z1OEDi9MtM

MarJJMar · Post #1079 » by **MarJJMar** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 5:32 pm

One can only hope...

My low value picks draft team would be, based on DX.

C - Keith Benson #44
PF- Jeremy Tyler #38
SF- Chris Singleton #19
SG- Marshon Brooks #25
PG- Josh Selby #27

Tyler, Selby and Brooks are the ones I like much more though. Singleton and Benson are just on there because the other options aren't all that great either..

If I could add one top pick to that I would say Derrick Williams instead of Singleton or Biyombo instead of Benson.

Years80HAWKS · Post #1080 » by **Years80HAWKS** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 7:14 pm

JohnVancouver wrote:Markieff gets high marks in CHA

"If Kansas's Markieff Morris plays as well as he talks, he'll be a very good NBA player. Morris, on what it's like to audition for all-time great (and Bobcats owner) Jordan:

"I felt it when he came in the gym - I just felt his greatness. ... The lights brightened. And you can see they went down a little bit (in Jordan's absence). That brightness, you just feel it on your back."

Morris, a 6-9 power forward (and twin to Marcus Morris, another first-round candidate), might have been the best of the six players auditioned Thursday. Said Silas: "A very good shooter. He was tough and understands how to play the game. I think he has a chance to really be good."

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... z1OEDi9MtM

Then it is pretty clear we will be selecting his brother...

DirtyDez · Post #1081 » by **DirtyDez** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 8:14 pm

Markieff going that early would be awesome for us. Hopefully both twins are gone by #13 pushing Burks, Leonard or Vesely down.

JohnVancouver · Post #1082 » by **JohnVancouver** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 9:04 pm

Markieff was the one I was high on, because of size, better D and boards, and just more who we need. His brother is more developed offensively and is generally rated going higher by 4-5 spots but all that was before team workouts, and they change a lot of perception

YouTube · Post #1083 » by **Kerrsed** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 10:31 pm

LOL

CHA really likes Markieff.

See i always said he would be a bust. Jordan liking him just proves my point. Jordan has the absolute worst track record of selecting young players. Kwamie Brown? Adam Morrison? When Jordan says he likes a player in the draft, that in the NBA is a death sentence.

JohnVancouver · Post #1084 » by **JohnVancouver** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 11:50 pm

Kerrsed wrote:LOL

CHA really likes Markieff.

See i always said he would be a bust. Jordan liking him just proves my point. Jordan has the absolute worst track record of selecting young players. Kwamie Brown? Adam Morrison? When Jordan says he likes a player in the draft, that in the NBA is a death sentence.

Silas said it, not MJ - but I take your point.

YouTube · Post #1085 » by **Kerrsed** » Sat Jun 4, 2011 9:07 am

per Coro -

* The Suns are expected to have draft workouts on June 9, 10, 13 and June 14. We say "expected" because the Suns are not announcing their workouts, nor will they open them to the media to interview candidates or hear Suns executives' comments on them. TheHoopsReport.com has shooting guards Klay Thompson of Washington State and Jordan Hamilton of Texas (two potential No. 13 choices) working out for Phoenix on Friday with Seton Hall 25-year-old shooting guard Jeremy Hazell. BYU guard Jimmer Fredette said he will work out for Phoenix soon. The 13th might be a big man workout featuring Texas' Tristan Thompson and Kansas' Markieff Morris.

* It is not stunning that there is Jimmermania in Phoenix. He is a popular player and talented scorer with a large Mormon following. But when a poll went up on our site this week with draft profiles of 15 Suns candidates, the results had Suns fans preferring Fredette by an astounding rate. With more than 3,400 votes cast as of this writing, he had 45 percent of the vote. Only one other player (Bismack Biyombo, a longshot to be available) had accumulated more than seven percent of votes.

For a team that is panned defensively as much as Phoenix, isn't it hard to see the Suns taking a player whose desire and ability to defend are constantly questioned? He would sell jerseys and tickets and score points, no doubt.

As for the defense, Fredette addressed the topic on a conference call this week, saying, "I think everyone has a criticism of someone for something. That is just my criticism I have gotten for my entire life. I'm used to it and I do realize I have to continue to work on defense. I think a lot of people have to work on defense. It's a tough ting, not being able to hand check (in the NBA)."

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/PaulCoro/130255