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Maybe next year the Suns can draft themselves a new Dragan. Probably could have gotten him with the Lakers pick if it isn't top 3. He's projected to go 6th and can hit the 3.
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Thon Maker looks and sounds like a player from an auto-generated 2K draft class. He might not be a KD in the making but he's intriguing enough for us to take a gamble on his developmental upside if he lasts to our pick
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Thon Maker looks and sounds like a d 2K player from an auto-generated 2K draft class. He might not be a KD in the making but he's intriguing enough for us to take a gamble on his developmental upside if he lasts to our pick
no i am pretty sure that guy actually is a 2k generated player, he does not look real


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DX now has Skal Labissiere going #1 over Ben Simmons next year. Interesting. Comparison is LaMarcus Aldridge. I guess he can already score from any place on the floor.
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I'm glad we have that CLE pick. Any UCLA freshman gonna average 9 rebounds this year? I'm ready.
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I'm glad we didn't tank cause the top of this draft is buttcheeks. Last year or the year before would've been ideal.
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Are there going to be any twins in the draft next year I should start scouting?
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saintEscaton wrote:Picking in the late lotto in this historically bad draft class wouldn't be the worst thing ever as we're not missing out on much since tanking for a top 3 pick wouldnt be worth it. And I' an open advocate of blowing it up. Ben SImmons can play PF but he's not really a #1 in my book and could be overseated. Its SF/wing heavy class with Jaylen Brown and Brandon Ingram being the only 2 other legit prospects imo
Well, the top 3 might be good, or at least the top 2 with Simmons and Labissiere, but I don't know that 4-12 would have been that great, so losing that Lakers pick isn't that big of a deal. It appears this draft will likely be worse than the Len draft, according to what I've read.
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Thon Maker looks and sounds like a player from an auto-generated 2K draft class. He might not be a KD in the making but he's intriguing enough for us to take a gamble on his developmental upside if he lasts to our pick
I don't see him on the current 2016 mocks. He is visited ASU today, so they could get another big time recruit.
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bwgood77 wrote:saintEscaton wrote:
Thon Maker looks and sounds like a player from an auto-generated 2K draft class. He might not be a KD in the making but he's intriguing enough for us to take a gamble on his developmental upside if he lasts to our pick
I don't see him on the current 2016 mocks. He is visited ASU today, so they could get another big time recruit.
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This is my current mock as of today if anyone is interested and want to start checking some names, I projected the standings and order myself and the picks that are due or traded are already included in the Mock.
Mock Draft 2016
selects... Dragan Bender PF/C Croatia
selects... Ben Simmons SF/PF LSU
selects... Skal Labissiere PF/C Kentucky
selects... Brandon Ingram SF/PF Duke
selects... Jamal Murray PG/SG Kentucky
selects... Jaylen Brown SG/SF California
selects... Jakob Poeltl C Utah
selects... Ivan Rabb PF California
selects... Furkan Korkmaz SG/SF Turkey
selects... Kris Dunn PG Providence
selects... Henry Ellenson PF Marquette
selects... Damian Jones PF/C Vanderbilt
selects... Diamond Stone PF/C Maryland
selects... Stephen Zimmerman PF/C UNLV
selects... Melo Trimble PG/SG Maryland
selects... Malik Newman PG/SG Mississippi St.
selects... Justin Jackson SG/SF North Carolina
selects... Demetrius Jackson PG Notre Dame
selects... Caris LeVert SG/SF Michigan
selects... Cheick Diallo PF Kansas
selects... Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk SG/SFKansas
selects... Domantas Sabonis PF/C Gonzaga
selects... Taurean Prince SF/PF Baylor
selects... Nigel Hayes SF/PF Wisconsin
selects... Grayson Allen PG/SG Duke
selects... Egemen Guven PF/C Turkey
selects... Zhou Qi PF/C China
selects... Aleksandar Vezenkov SF/PF Bulgaria
selects... Troy Williams SF Indiana
selects... Juancho Hernangómez SF/PF Spain
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And yeah, Hernangómez is a brother, Willy's younger brother, they are not twins, but still...
He is similar in some ways to Andres Nocioni.
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What is everyones thoughts on simmons?. Is he a lock for a top spot or is there a good chance hes stock drops during the season. Im interested right now cuz in Australia thers a betting special paying 4 to 1 for anyone else being picked first. Im tempted to put the house on it. Mainly cuz its so early n i personally think he isnt mentally ther. Kid talks in an american accent (by choice) n picking shaqs uni reeks of wanting the spotlight n not working hard to improve. Anyone disagree? Feel he is the next kyrie irving?.
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theSUNalsoRISES wrote:What is everyones thoughts on simmons?. Is he a lock for a top spot or is there a good chance hes stock drops during the season. Im interested right now cuz in Australia thers a betting special paying 4 to 1 for anyone else being picked first. Im tempted to put the house on it. Mainly cuz its so early n i personally think he isnt mentally ther. Kid talks in an american accent (by choice) n picking shaqs uni reeks of wanting the spotlight n not working hard to improve. Anyone disagree? Feel he is the next kyrie irving?.
There is definitely a chance he doesn't go first. Many have Skal Labisserie #1. Heck, this Fischella guy has Dragan Bender going one (but of course he also thought Zoran Dragic would be better than TJ Warren).
But during the college season any guy's stock could rise. Oladipo wasn't even a consensus first rounder before that college season and he ended up probably being the guy who should have went first.
I like Simmons' situation though. He didn't go to the popular schools. He went to LSU...if he does big things with them, he will have a very good chance of going #1. I'd say it is between a 50-70% chance he goes #1 right now, so those 4-1 odds on the field look good. It's likely a losing bet, but with the odds it's worth it as long as you don't bet more than you are willing to lose.
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All of them drafted in the top 10. This shows that smart management is more valuable than high pick.
When we drafted Booker I was afraid he will be terrible like Fredette. Thankfully he is not a guy who can't do anything other than shoot. Love his energy. I totally trust McD at least in draft.
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Bismack Biyombo - traded on draft day for Fredette - subsequently bought out
Thomas Robinson - traded away in his rookie season
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Nik Stauskas - Traded after rookie season
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All of them drafted in the top 10. This shows that smart management is more valuable than high pick.
When we drafted Booker I was afraid he will be terrible like Fredette. Thankfully he is not a guy who can't do anything other than shoot. Love his energy. I totally trust McD at least in draft.
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Just saw Bill Simmons tweeting about Ben Simmons and the Nets record.
The Celtics get an unprotected pick from Brooklyn this year. They also get a top 7 protected pick from Dallas and a top 12 protected pick from Minnesota, as well as 4 second rounders coming to them. This isn't even counting their own picks. They do send two second rounders out but they could have as many as 4 lottery picks. It is unlikely they get the Minnesota pick (I guess this was our pick we sent to them) but they will probably get 3 picks in the top 15 or so.
http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed
The Celtics get an unprotected pick from Brooklyn this year. They also get a top 7 protected pick from Dallas and a top 12 protected pick from Minnesota, as well as 4 second rounders coming to them. This isn't even counting their own picks. They do send two second rounders out but they could have as many as 4 lottery picks. It is unlikely they get the Minnesota pick (I guess this was our pick we sent to them) but they will probably get 3 picks in the top 15 or so.
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Top 3 PF's in next year's draft according to Chad Ford:
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/14056095/croatia-dragan-bender-marquette-henry-ellenson-top-power-forward-prospects-rankings-nba-draft-2016
Potential NBA superstars
1. Dragan Bender
Croatia
Age: 19
6-foot-11, 211 lbs
Bender has been on the NBA radar for a while, but got a significant bump in his draft stock a few weeks ago when his Maccabi Tel Aviv team played two exhibition games against Milano in Chicago and New York. Bender was terrific in both games while matched up against Allesandro Gentile, a player who's likely to be in the NBA next year.
His versatility is a big plus. While his offensive game is still rounding out (as is his body), he can play the 3, 4 and 5 on offense -- much like Porzingis in the Liga ACB last year. Bender's 3-point shot is improving and he shows terrific athleticism. What's not to like?
"I think the biggest takeaway from those two games was that Bender is going to get significant playing time for Maccabi," one GM said. "That's huge. If he can play big minutes in the Euroleague and make the impact that we saw him make early, he's got a shot at the No. 1 pick.
"He's a skilled 7-footer that can score from anywhere and defend three positions. Those guys don't come along very often.
"I'd probably put Ben Simmons and Skal Labissiere in front of him. Maybe Brandon Ingram too. But if he has a big year in Europe, I might be inclined to go with Bender. Especially if Porzingis ends up having a big year in New York."
Potential NBA starters
2. Henry Ellenson
Marquette
Freshman
6-10, 228 lbs
Ellenson broke his hand in March, robbing him of the opportunity to show off his game to scouts at the McDonald's All American Game and the Nike Hoop Summit. Otherwise he would be more front of mind in NBA circles.
He's the rare big man with such a complete offensive package: great athletic ability, the strength to dominate in the post, the shooting ability to stretch the floor and terrific ballhandling skills. He dominated in a four-game trip to Italy for Marquette in August, averaging 21 points and 7.5 rebounds. In other words, he can be an instant impact player.
Concerns about his defense abound. And there were conditioning questions until he slimmed down during the past year to a svelte 228. Overall, he's the closest thing we've seen to Kevin Love since Love.
"He's the most underrated kid in this draft class," one NBA scout said. "His game and his body have improved so much the past year. Offensively, there isn't anything this kid can't do.
"He's a bit of a defensive liability right now, but there's no reason he has to be. He's got great mobility and long arms. He just needs to learn how to play on that end, too. I think he'll pick it up on that end with time. I wouldn't be surprised if you have him in your top five in June."
3. Cheick Diallo
Kansas
Freshman
6-9, 220 lbs
Diallo is still waiting to hear whether he'll be cleared by the NCAA to play for Kansas. If he is, he'll be an immediate impact player, especially on the defensive end.
There isn't a player who plays with more energy or toughness than Diallo. He uses his elite athleticism, long arms and speed to protect the rim and harass players on the perimeter.
On offense, he's unpolished. He's been playing basketball for only five years and his game is still coming along. But scouts who watched him closely this spring all say the same thing -- his game is developing rapidly on that end, too.
"He's my favorite player in the draft," one GM said. "I'm not saying he's the best player. Just my favorite. I love guys that go [all] out on both ends for 48 minutes. They guy just doesn't stop. Bill Self is going to love him. He's going to have a major impact at Kansas on both ends.
"And I think if his offense ever catches up to his defense he could be a star. He's got the physical tools and the work ethic and the right demeanor to be one. I love him."
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College basketball kicking off on espn tonight. One guy that may be in our range on draft night is playing right now, Domantas Sabonis.