Suns Offseason Thread V: I Am My Brother's Kieffer

Post #1595 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Oct 5, 2015 2:58 am

Saberestar wrote:
NBA executives & scouts from Orlando, Phoenix, Utah, Denver, NY & Philadelphia on hand here at MSG to see projected top 5 pick Dragan Bender

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Dragan-Bender-62877/

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NTB · Post #1596 » by **NTB** » Mon Oct 5, 2015 5:05 am

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH5ZCvJNzZE[/youtube]

Is it me or Green is just defending well? :lol:

And this Miami squad... Man there are so much former Sun.

Revived · Post #1597 » by **Revived** » Mon Oct 5, 2015 5:35 am

NTB wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH5ZCvJNzZE[/youtube]

Is it me or Green is just defending well?

And this Miami squad... Man there are so much former Sun.

The Heat are gonna be a fun team to watch if they stay healthy minus Wade who will obviously get injured but rest of the team at least.

They already look dangerous in transition with so many weapons.

SideSwipe · Post #1598 » by **SideSwipe** » Mon Oct 5, 2015 5:36 am

NTB wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH5ZCvJNzZE[/youtube]

Is it me or Green is just defending well?

And this Miami squad... Man there are so much former Sun.

Allowing that team to come together in MIA could be a mistake that haunts the Suns despite the good return we got for Dragic. I think we should have figured out hot to keep him here running the show. I hope Weems is really good defensively because losing Green is hurting me a little. I liked his passion. Amare is the great icing on the cake. He still has what this current team needs.

Post #1599 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Oct 5, 2015 5:36 am

NTB wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH5ZCvJNzZE[/youtube]

Is it me or Green is just defending well?

And this Miami squad... Man there are so much former Sun.

Wow that is exciting and somewhat depressing.

Post #1600 » by **batsmasher** » Mon Oct 5, 2015 5:53 am

Gerald playing hard defense in a pre-season game. There are so many things wrong with that.

DRK · Post #1601 » by **DRK** » Mon Oct 5, 2015 7:24 am

I miss Gerald Green already.

thamadkant · Post #1602 » by **thamadkant** » Mon Oct 5, 2015 10:41 am

I want Gerald Green to get a 3 year contract atleast. The guy is one of the lowest paid players per production in the league and has been playing with little security for the last couple of years.
But just glad he is off the Suns, since Suns need better role models IQ wise on the court.... But on a veteran team he is perfect scorer off the bench.

RunDogGun · Post #1603 » by **RunDogGun** » Mon Oct 5, 2015 12:36 pm

Green is a good guy, but wasn't a good player for us last year. I think it was good pickups for Miami though to give Goran two familiar finishers.

King4Day · Post #1604 » by **King4Day** » Mon Oct 5, 2015 12:57 pm

SideSwipe wrote:
NTB wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH5ZCvJNzZE[/youtube]

Is it me or Green is just defending well?

And this Miami squad... Man there are so much former Sun.

Allowing that team to come together in MIA could be a mistake that haunts the Suns despite the good return we got for Dragic. I think we should have figured out hot to keep him here running the show. I hope Weems is really good defensively because losing Green is hurting me a little. I liked his passion. Amare is the great icing on the cake. He still has what this current team needs.

Watching highlights will do that. If you noticed, the Hornets led in every highlight (that I noticed).
I'll miss Green but we have to develop our players, not entertain our fans with aging guys while being mediocre.

The Dragic trade probably saved this franchise from another 5 years of treadmill. If we kept him then it would have only made sense to trade Bledsoe since, despite what some think, we were better when it was only Dragic. He only became 3rd team NBA because Bledsoe went down.

Miami is also an older team so it's not like we allowed a dynasty to form. Even if they did become one, we won't be the team they continue to beat to win championships.

They will def be fun to watch though. After the Suns, I'll probably watch them just to see those 3 go.

jcsunsfan · Post #1605 » by **jcsunsfan** » Mon Oct 5, 2015 3:13 pm

DRK wrote:I miss Gerald Green already.

He was a clutch player for us in the 13/14 season, and responsible for a lot of wins down the stretch. He was a team guy and played hard for us. I wish him nothing but the best.

I wish his team utter destruction, though. We have their picks.

jcsunsfan · Post #1606 » by **jcsunsfan** » Mon Oct 5, 2015 3:17 pm

DarkHawk wrote:
SideSwipe wrote:
NTB wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH5ZCvJNzZE[/youtube]

Is it me or Green is just defending well?

And this Miami squad... Man there are so much former Sun.

Allowing that team to come together in MIA could be a mistake that haunts the Suns despite the good return we got for Dragic. I think we should have figured out hot to keep him here running the show. I hope Weems is really good defensively because losing Green is hurting me a little. I liked his passion. Amare is the great icing on the cake. He still has what this current team needs.

Watching highlights will do that. If you noticed, the Hornets led in every highlight (that I noticed).
I'll miss Green but we have to develop our players, not entertain our fans with aging guys while being mediocre.

The Dragic trade probably saved this franchise from another 5 years of treadmill. If we kept him then it would have only made sense to trade Bledsoe since, despite what some think, we were better when it was only Dragic. He only became 3rd team NBA because Bledsoe went down.

Miami is also an older team so it's not like we allowed a dynasty to form. Even if they did become one, we won't be the team they continue to beat to win championships.

They will def be fun to watch though. After the Suns, I'll probably watch them just to see those 3 go.

As good as Dragic and Bledsoe were on the court in 13/14, it became clear they could not co-exist as teammates. Too much unhappiness on Goran's part. I am not sure the dynamics of that. IT wanted a starting job, Goran wanted to handle the ball, Bled wanted a contract and didn't talk much, Plumlee was unhappy that Len was starting, the Morrii were doing their thug thing. Yikes.

kennydorglas · Post #1607 » by **kennydorglas** » Mon Oct 5, 2015 6:18 pm

Yeah... Gerald Green looks really good when u dont need to watch him for 82 games.
Heat fans will understand this very quickly... as soon as he's fouling 3's nonstop or shooting with 21s in the clock or even when he's dribbling just to create an easy turnover for them.
I wish him all the best, but i'm SOOOO GLAD he's gone.

SideSwipe · Post #1608 » by **SideSwipe** » Mon Oct 5, 2015 8:21 pm

DarkHawk wrote:
SideSwipe wrote:
NTB wrote:
Is it me or Green is just defending well?

And this Miami squad... Man there are so much former Sun.

Allowing that team to come together in MIA could be a mistake that haunts the Suns despite the good return we got for Dragic. I think we should have figured out hot to keep him here running the show. I hope Weems is really good defensively because losing Green is hurting me a little. I liked his passion. Amare is the great icing on the cake. He still has what this current team needs.

Watching highlights will do that. If you noticed, the Hornets led in every highlight (that I noticed).
I'll miss Green but we have to develop our players, not entertain our fans with aging guys while being mediocre.

The Dragic trade probably saved this franchise from another 5 years of treadmill. If we kept him then it would have only made sense to trade Bledsoe since, despite what some think, we were better when it was only Dragic. He only became 3rd team NBA because Bledsoe went down.

Miami is also an older team so it's not like we allowed a dynasty to form. Even if they did become one, we won't be the team they continue to beat to win championships.

They will def be fun to watch though. After the Suns, I'll probably watch them just to see those 3 go.

It's not the highlights I will miss, its Dragic's killer-instinct he displayed. It's Green's in the zone moments. It's Amare's jump shot more than his dunks. Dragic/ Bledsoe/ Tucker/ Amare/ Chandler would have scared some people. I like Knight, and Mirza will be fun, but together are they worth what Dragic brings? I hope they are, but I am not convinced yet.

I mentioned this in the "If I were GM" thread, but in hindsight (with the knowledge of his discontent), I think I would have passed on the Knight trade, given Dragic the ball and let Bledsoe adjust (since he was locked in already), made the IT trade, made the Morris trade (with a little heads-up before it was public), made the Leuer trade, kept Green, or grabbed Weems for the min or gone without.

Post #1609 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Oct 5, 2015 8:33 pm

Amare and Green will always have nice highlights. Especially in the preseason when teams are not defending or playing with max effort.

Doing the little things it takes for team ball to be successful are the things they will always lack, and we finally have more players that like to do those little things and work hard.

SarcasticSun · Post #1610 » by **SarcasticSun** » Tue Oct 6, 2015 12:21 am

Haven't visited the forum recently, how was the reaction to Markieff's return? Also, has Warren been getting enough hype? If not, I may have to start up the hype train with the season less than a month away.

Cutter · Post #1611 » by **Cutter** » Tue Oct 6, 2015 12:45 am

SarcasticSun wrote:Haven't visited the forum recently, how was the reaction to Markieff's return? Also, has Warren been getting enough hype? If not, I may have to start up the hype train with the season less than a month away.

I went to the intra squad game and when Keef was introduced there was a majority of applause, but a strong minority of boo's. You could definitely hear the disgruntled fans. Keef didn't play, but if he had I imagine he would have heard the disapproval from the crowd.

Warren gets some buzz, but I wouldn't say the Suns are hyping him at all. I think once he begins to have break out games, Suns will turn on the hype machine quickly. I even read that Paul Coro on Twitter said Suns are considering starting Warren over PJ Tucker. I would expect PJ to be the starter at the beginning of the season, but Warren will take over by ASG.

Sunsss · Post #1612 » by **Sunsss** » Tue Oct 6, 2015 1:01 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/651197809459200001[/tweet]

Post #1613 » by **batsmasher** » Tue Oct 6, 2015 1:49 am

Bogdan just made a sick clutch and-1 over his head. Fearless.

Post #1614 » by **lilfishi22** » Tue Oct 6, 2015 2:26 am

Sunsss wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/651197809459200001[/tweet]

Wait, which one do we have? :-?