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Gorilla Warfare · Post #1795 » by **Gorilla Warfare** » Tue Mar 1, 2016 5:39 am

Another one...

RunSunRun · Post #1796 » by **RunSunRun** » Tue Mar 1, 2016 6:17 am

Boogie was going to test out his new Fatality, but decided using it on Adams wasn't worth it.

sunskerr · Post #1797 » by **sunskerr** » Wed Mar 2, 2016 4:02 am

With the Warrior's incredible success, does anyone think we should have traded Amare for an upgrade at center while having Boris Diaw at the starting 4? Hindsight is 20/20 but we'd have been much better off defensively and Boris may have been the 2nd playmaker we had been looking for all along.

JohnVancouver · Post #1798 » by **JohnVancouver** » Wed Mar 2, 2016 11:56 pm

Mulhollanddrive wrote:If our Washington pick turns out to be an All-Star, McDonough might be approaching Morey like RealGM status.

You forgot the sarcastic ink - green, isn't it?

LukasBMW · Post #1799 » by **LukasBMW** » Thu Mar 3, 2016 2:52 am

sunskerr wrote:With the Warrior's incredible success, does anyone think we should have traded Amare for an upgrade at center while having Boris Diaw at the starting 4? Hindsight is 20/20 but we'd have been much better off defensively and Boris may have been the 2nd playmaker we had been looking for all along.

We almost won a ring without Amare in 05-06. That shows you how valuable he was to us.

We should have traded him straight up for KG and paired KG with Marion and Nash. Biggest mistake we made.

As for Diaw, a lot of us remember him with rose colored glasses. Yeah, he filled in at center for us and had a great all around game, but he was also a pussy and hated physical play. He got pushed around on the boards and lacked defense. He also didn't stay in shape.

That said, if we had a real Center at the 5 (even Garnett), then perhaps Boris' lack of rebounding and defense would be better covered.

LukasBMW · Post #1800 » by **LukasBMW** » Thu Mar 3, 2016 2:54 am

JohnVancouver wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:If our Washington pick turns out to be an All-Star, McDonough might be approaching Morey like RealGM status.

You forgot the sarcastic ink - green, isn't it?

I don't think it is sarcastic.

Given that prime Amare (a bonehead who didn't play defense but still an allstar and big name player) almost got us the #7 pick in the draft, if the Washington pick turns out to be #10-#12 and results in an allstar, it would be quite a heist.

Post #1801 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Mar 3, 2016 6:14 am

I can't believe the Thunder lost to the Clips. They were up by 17 going into the 4th.

Damkac · Post #1802 » by **Damkac** » Thu Mar 3, 2016 7:59 am

There is still team willing to sign B-easy? Incredible.

Bogyo · Post #1803 » by **Bogyo** » Thu Mar 3, 2016 9:57 am

bwgood77 wrote:I can't believe the Thunder lost to the Clips. They were up by 17 going into the 4th.

I'm starting to wonder if they ever "put it together"... That team has tried so many things and still comes up short. I know they lost to great-great teams, and they had some bad injuries, but still. Will they try to retool (as always), or get bored with it sometime and decide to blow it up? I'm sure offers will be coming in for a sign and trade for Durant this offseason, and Westbrook in the next one.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #1804 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Thu Mar 3, 2016 1:41 pm

Everytime I look at the OKC scoreboard when they lose I see 11 players not doing much, Ibaka and Kanter with cameos and Westbrook missing alot of shots.

They have the 2nd highest salary this year and have a pretty terrible 'team' still.

Bogyo · Post #1805 » by **Bogyo** » Thu Mar 3, 2016 3:23 pm

Yeah, they need a system badly as they have a lot of good players. Another shooter would help, but still... They should be better than this.

Post #1806 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Mar 3, 2016 3:39 pm

Bogyo wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:I can't believe the Thunder lost to the Clips. They were up by 17 going into the 4th.

I'm starting to wonder if they ever "put it together"... That team has tried so many things and still comes up short. I know they lost to great-great teams, and they had some bad injuries, but still. Will they try to retool (as always), or get bored with it sometime and decide to blow it up? I'm sure offers will be coming in for a sign and trade for Durant this offseason, and Westbrook in the next one.

Well for them, it's lucky that these kinds of games are happening in the regular season (as opposed to the playoffs) and perhaps they can learn from them. They typically win those types of games (especially against the Clippers), if healthy, in the playoffs. Donovan is still on a learning curve anyway. But regardless of where OKC and LAC land between the 3 and 4 spots, they are both extremely likely to win in the first round and lose in the second, so I'm not sure it matters.

RunDogGun · Post #1807 » by **RunDogGun** » Thu Mar 3, 2016 7:13 pm

Why does Goran keep taking questions about the Suns, and why are people still asking him about it? Dude needs to move on, enjoy his millions, and be happy that he can continue to defer point responsibilities to another guard, and stand in the corner like he hated here.

Bogyo · Post #1808 » by **Bogyo** » Thu Mar 3, 2016 8:41 pm

Can't find it - link pls?

TheFire · Post #1809 » by **TheFire** » Thu Mar 3, 2016 8:43 pm

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/241059/Goran-Dragic-On-Suns-I-Was-Glad-As-Soon-As-I-Got-Out-Of-There

This guy is such a whiny little brat. Glad he's gone.

Post #1810 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Mar 3, 2016 8:47 pm

Bogyo wrote:Can't find it - link pls?

Here's the link to the actual story with all the quotes.

Goran Dragic feels like he’s said enough about his ugly breakup with the Phoenix Suns last year, but he’ll probably never fully move on from it.

As Miami gets ready to host Phoenix tonight, Dragic still has a point to make.

“Oh yeah, I’m motivated – always,” he said. “I wish we didn’t break on bad terms like it was, but you always want to show them they made a mistake how they treated you and that you’re a good player. There will be a lot of emotions in that game, and I’m looking forward to it.”

This will be Dragic’s third game against the Suns since joining the Heat. He went for 22 points and seven assists in a win at Phoenix in January and scored 21 on them shortly after the trade last season.

Dragic broke through as a starting point guard in Phoenix by averaging 14.7 points and 7.4 assists per game in 2012-13, followed by 20.3 and 5.9 the next season. There was a growing divide between him and management, though, which led him to publicly ask for a trade last year.

Miami gave up future draft picks and spare parts to bring him in, then signed him to a five-year extension last summer.

Since the trade, the Heat have gone 49-41 while the Suns have slipped into total dysfunction. They fired coach Jeff Hornacek this season, and Markieff Morris forced his way out last month. Phoenix is 25-63 since trading Dragic and currently sits as the third-worst team in the NBA.

“I was glad as soon as I got out of there,” Dragic said. “I didn’t feel comfortable with them and you never knew what to expect. I want to be in a good situation with a good organization. I know about that situation, but I’m not following it anymore.”

http://heatzone.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2016/03/03/goran-dragic-not-done-reminding-suns-of-their-error/

TeamTragic · Post #1811 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu Mar 3, 2016 8:57 pm

Dragic still bitter about the trade. Not "...following it anymore..." yet still talking about it :roll:

Post #1812 » by **ATTL** » Thu Mar 3, 2016 10:17 pm

Every time tragic talks about the suns he sounds like he's on the rag. I'm very glad we aren't the ones to have paid him that ridiculous contract. I'm stoked to have two potential lotto picks for him. Heat fans have been pissed they have him on their roster this season.

tria · Post #1813 » by **tria** » Thu Mar 3, 2016 10:48 pm

ATTL wrote:Every time tragic talks about the suns he sounds like he's on the rag. I'm very glad we aren't the ones to have paid him that ridiculous contract. I'm stoked to have two potential lotto picks for him. Heat fans have been pissed they have him on their roster this season.

Were pissed at the start of the season, but not for a while now. After he missed few games everyone realised how important he is for Miami and now you can even find statements about him beeing miamis key player. Especially since Bosh is out and Miami started playing a lot faster with Dragic as show runner.

But i also think he should shut up about phoenix already.

AtheJ415 · Post #1814 » by **AtheJ415** » Thu Mar 3, 2016 11:46 pm

For a guy that suddenly complained about not having the ball as much even though we were winning more, and then wanted us to trade all of our PGs so it would be just him while asking for $20 million a year, why is he even brought up here anymore? At that point, both sides need to move on. Keeping Goran made no sense for us or him. Bledsoe is better and has always been the better fit for us at the 1 given age and potential. Goran was going to have to be happy playing the 2 or go elsewhere. He only made 3rd Team all-nba after Bledsoe got hurt and his production went up, but we were winning less with just him out there.