2014 Draft Thread

[JMac1]

Whatever we do, we are going to have a clog of players. If you add 4 first rounders and a potential free agent, this summer could bring in a crowd. I would much rather trade multiple picks for 1 or 2 impact players.

This is exactly what is going to happen. I would bet that we are going to draft someone with or pick, package the others to trade for really good young player if we are a late lottery team. If we are outside the top three in the lottery we could use all of those picks and ours to trade up in the draft maybe from 8-12 to 4-7...It really depend on who is available.

I don't think anyone will trade down (definitely not out of he top 6 or so). We will likely add a bunch of guys like Houston did (for Harden) or Boston (for KG) did and possibly use them to trade for a solid vet. Chances are, at least 1 of the 4 picks will be a bust, and one or two can play in D league or one could be drafted overseas and play there a year before coming over (like Hezonja maybe). There is still a good chance we only have three picks this year anyway.

You wouldn't trade back a from 4-6 for 7-9 and another first? The draft is top heavy with three elite guys then a crap shoot on the other guys whom will all be good at least through the top 8-10

[bwgood77]

This is exactly what is going to happen. I would bet that we are going to draft someone with or pick, package the others to trade for really good young player if we are a late lottery team. If we are outside the top three in the lottery we could use all of those picks and ours to trade up in the draft maybe from 8-12 to 4-7...It really depend on who is available.

I don't think anyone will trade down (definitely not out of he top 6 or so). We will likely add a bunch of guys like Houston did (for Harden) or Boston (for KG) did and possibly use them to trade for a solid vet. Chances are, at least 1 of the 4 picks will be a bust, and one or two can play in D league or one could be drafted overseas and play there a year before coming over (like Hezonja maybe). There is still a good chance we only have three picks this year anyway.

You wouldn't trade back a from 4-6 for 7-9 and another first? The draft is top heavy with three elite guys then a crap shoot on the other guys whom will all be good at least through the top 8-10

There are likely six elite guys (Wiggins, Randle, Parker, Exum, Smart, Gordon) and after that it might drop off quite a bit. Maybe if a team isn't high on Gordon and already has a pg for the future would rather trade down, but that is probably the best bet. And in that case, we already have a pg for the future (unless we wanted to think about drafting Smart or Exum and possibly trade Bledsoe for other assets) or if we were especially high on Gordon (moreso than whoever holds that pick).

Teams just don't generally trade out of the top 5, and in this draft, I would guess that would even be less likely. And if we were going to move up, it would probably cost us the Wiz pick (assuming it is mid teens) and our own pick...we wouldn't be able to do it with a pick in the 20s. We could possibly trade like the 11th and 16th pick to move up to 8 or 9 if we wanted.

[Revived]

I don't think Gordon is quite an "elite" prospect just yet.

[bwgood77]

I don't think Gordon is quite an "elite" prospect just yet.

Yeah, some don't think so, but some GMs do....from Chad Ford's big board

How deep is this draft? I have several GMs who swear that Gordon should be a top-three pick in June, but he's No. 7 on this list in November. His combination of explosive athletic ability and energy is so attractive. He opened his collegiate career with 13 points, 10 rebounds and four blocks. He followed that up with a 14-point, 10-rebound performance Monday. If he can prove he has a reliable perimeter game, he has All-Star potential at the next level.

That was before his best performance at SDSU Thursday night.

It may still be early to declare anyone an elite prospect since they season just got underway, but Gordon definitely can play with those guys. He was MVP of the McDonald's game.

[JMac1]

I don't think anyone will trade down (definitely not out of he top 6 or so). We will likely add a bunch of guys like Houston did (for Harden) or Boston (for KG) did and possibly use them to trade for a solid vet. Chances are, at least 1 of the 4 picks will be a bust, and one or two can play in D league or one could be drafted overseas and play there a year before coming over (like Hezonja maybe). There is still a good chance we only have three picks this year anyway.

You wouldn't trade back a from 4-6 for 7-9 and another first? The draft is top heavy with three elite guys then a crap shoot on the other guys whom will all be good at least through the top 8-10

There are likely six elite guys (Wiggins, Randle, Parker, Exum, Smart, Gordon) and after that it might drop off quite a bit. Maybe if a team isn't high on Gordon and already has a pg for the future would rather trade down, but that is probably the best bet. And in that case, we already have a pg for the future (unless we wanted to think about drafting Smart or Exum and possibly trade Bledsoe for other assets) or if we were especially high on Gordon (moreso than whoever holds that pick).

Teams just don't generally trade out of the top 5, and in this draft, I would guess that would even be less likely. And if we were going to move up, it would probably cost us the Wiz pick (assuming it is mid teens) and our own pick...we wouldn't be able to do it with a pick in the 20s. We could possibly trade like the 11th and 16th pick to move up to 8 or 9 if we wanted.

Didn't Love and Mayo get exchanged?

[BurningHeart]

Everyone gets caught up in "elite" this, "star prospect" that, and it always ends up the same.

Not EVERYONE can be great. That has never happened. Even out of the best of the best prospects, at least one will bust.

[bwgood77]

You wouldn't trade back a from 4-6 for 7-9 and another first? The draft is top heavy with three elite guys then a crap shoot on the other guys whom will all be good at least through the top 8-10

There are likely six elite guys (Wiggins, Randle, Parker, Exum, Smart, Gordon) and after that it might drop off quite a bit. Maybe if a team isn't high on Gordon and already has a pg for the future would rather trade down, but that is probably the best bet. And in that case, we already have a pg for the future (unless we wanted to think about drafting Smart or Exum and possibly trade Bledsoe for other assets) or if we were especially high on Gordon (moreso than whoever holds that pick).

Teams just don't generally trade out of the top 5, and in this draft, I would guess that would even be less likely. And if we were going to move up, it would probably cost us the Wiz pick (assuming it is mid teens) and our own pick...we wouldn't be able to do it with a pick in the 20s. We could possibly trade like the 11th and 16th pick to move up to 8 or 9 if we wanted.

Didn't Love and Mayo get exchanged?

Yeah, and so did Webber and Hardaway. It happens, but that usually happens when you like a guy you can get at the later pick just as much (and usually more) than the guy that will go earlier, so you agree to swap draft picks IF both players are there when the teams pick, and you get an extra asset out of it.

So depending on what teams are drafting where, and what team needs each of those teams have, they could trade down. Unfortunately, I think the best chance of this happening is if the premier prospects are gone, except for Exum and Smart, so a team that already has a pg might consider trading down. But in that case, would we even want to trade up to that spot and take another pg?

[nevetsov]

Marbury and Ray Allen too.


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[nevetsov]

And the most lopsided top 10 draft pick trade of all time... Dirk for Robert Tractor Trailor.


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[TASTIC]

Carter and Jamison

Roy and Foye

[JDLAW]

And the most lopsided top 10 draft pick trade of all time... Dirk for Robert Tractor Trailor.


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Pippen and Polynice

McHale and Joe Barry Carroll

[JDLAW]

There are likely six elite guys (Wiggins, Randle, Parker, Exum, Smart, Gordon) and after that it might drop off quite a bit. Maybe if a team isn't high on Gordon and already has a pg for the future would rather trade down, but that is probably the best bet.

I would bet that 1-2 of these players remain in school.

[DirtyDez]

There are likely six elite guys (Wiggins, Randle, Parker, Exum, Smart, Gordon) and after that it might drop off quite a bit. Maybe if a team isn't high on Gordon and already has a pg for the future would rather trade down, but that is probably the best bet.

I would bet that 1-2 of these players remain in school.

Highly doubt it. Maybe Exum stays overseas for a year.

[jcsunsfan]

And the most lopsided top 10 draft pick trade of all time... Dirk for Robert Tractor Trailor.


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Pippen and Polynice

McHale and Joe Barry Carroll

There is more. Vlade Divac for Kobe
Penny Hardaway and three future firsts for Chris Webber.

Teams have been successful drafting raw players and developing them. The Pacers have to be considered contenders this year and they drafted Paul George 10th and Hibbert 17th.

[JDLAW]

Divac was already in the league for a couple of years at the time he was traded for Kobe.

[JMac1]

LMA and Tyrus Thomas

[jcsunsfan]

Divac was already in the league for a couple of years at the time he was traded for Kobe.

Yes, that is true, and . . .

Trades can be made,

[thamadkant]

Divac was already in the league for a couple of years at the time he was traded for Kobe.

Longer than a couple of years... He was drafted 1989 right.... I recall watching him in the playoffs and finals when I was a kid or kiddish anyways.

[JDLAW]

Divac was already in the league for a couple of years at the time he was traded for Kobe.

Yes, that is true, and . . .

Trades can be made,

What is your point. We all know that trades can be made.

[jcsunsfan]

Divac was already in the league for a couple of years at the time he was traded for Kobe.

Yes, that is true, and . . .

Trades can be made,

What is your point. We all know that trades can be made.

The Lakers traded up in the draft to get the player they wanted. I thought that trading up to get a higher pick was the point of the examples here.