Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion

[bwgood77]

If KLove leaves Cleveland it will be to go back to his hometown Portland.

He's not coming here.

Hadn't even though of that. Man if Aldridge goes to SA or Dallas and Love goes to Portland, the west will remain super stacked. I really don't want SA to get a good player, but there is a good chance Dallas and Portland drop off if LMA leaves and doesn't go to Dallas.

I really hope the Spurs don't get Aldridge or Gasol, or they will never ever go away. I was just looking at the "View more smilies" and it hit me.. I saw this one... the Spurs are like the Dark Side. And we are like the Force.....and it NEEDS to Awaken! By Christmas!

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngElkyQ6Rhs[/youtube]

I'm sure I think differently about the Spurs than some...they are now the model organization, but being younger I remember when they had Robinson and then got Rodman I never liked them (they seemed to play dirty)...maybe partially also because I was also a Chargers fan and they wore the same colors as the Raiders (who play dirty). I was just always thinking "I can't wait until Robinson is gone...he is the only real reason they contend"...we all know what happened after that. Then of course Bowen played dirty, and then Horry...

Now complaining about the Spurs play doesn't make sense, but for a VERY long while, they played dirty. Though I still feel the evil from within. Maybe it's just in my head though.

It is funny, watching that trailer....the good guys wear orange....you know...the bad guys...black and grey or silver.

Oh, and that storm trooper that takes his helmet off, and looks to join the good guys, that must be Tyson Chandler.

[Qwigglez]

Sources say that the Celtics were discussing a package that included multiple picks and big man Jared Sullinger with New York and that Phoenix talked to members of the organization about a trade involving Eric Bledsoe in the hours leading up to the draft.

NavyLDO would love to get Sullinger, he has a man crush on em.

[AtheJ415]

With belief around the league that Orlando will not match a max for Tobias Harris, we need to be all over that. He should be our first priority imo, because he improves our shooting and can play the stretch 4 and some 3 for us, on top of being just 22 with upside to grow.

[carey]

With belief around the league that Orlando will not match a max for Tobias Harris, we need to be all over that. He should be our first priority imo, because he improves our shooting and can play the stretch 4 and some 3 for us, on top of being just 22 with upside to grow.

He's not a 4. Plus we have umpteen SFs (4) already. We'd have to move at minimum 2 of them. Plus, plus I'd like to see Warren get a real shot at starting.

[Revived]

Who gives a crap if we have a billion forwards, Tobias Harris is only like 10 times better than all of them.

That said, I bet he has better suitors than the Suns and will probably go elsewhere. Plus if he asks his cousin Frye about the Suns, I bet Frye screws the Suns over.

[Revived]

With the Bulls drafting Portis, I think Taj Gibson may be on the block.

The Bulls front court right now is Noah, Gasol, Gibson, Mirotic and Portis. They may look to move Gibson who could come a long way in the veteran leadership and defensive help that we're looking for. Not a horrible offensive player either.

[Saberestar]

The Suns need help most on the frontline, where only Len, Markieff Morris and newly acquired Jon Leuer are traditional big men under contract. The Suns are likely to target backup centers for Len, not that Marc Gasol is leaving Memphis anyway and DeAndre Jordan already has his list. Backup center targets could include Kosta Koufos or Alexis Ajinca.

After Aldridge or Love, the Suns' next wave of big spending could be on a "3-and-D" free agent like Atlanta's DeMarre Carroll or San Antonio's Danny Green, outstanding defensive wing players who hit about 40 percent of their 3-point shots. Both are 28, prime NBA age, and unrestricted free agents. They also play with high effort, character and IQ, which the Suns need. Swingman Khris Middleton was Knight's best Milwaukee friend but he is a restricted free agent that the Bucks plan to re-sign.

The Suns will need to add more affordable size and shooting, sometimes in one player. Amar'e Stoudemire would be interested in returning to Phoenix but has averaged 50 games over the past four seasons and made $21.9 million last season.

The Suns are interested in returning power forward Brandan Wright, who is an unrestricted free agent with the shot-blocking, athleticism and maturity the team desires. Other potential free agent frontcourt fits could include Amir Johnson, Thaddeus Young, Brandon Bass, Ed Davis, Andrea Bargnani, Jonas Jerebko and Luc Richard Mbah a Moute.

The Suns also need a part-time backup point guard because they plan to keep Bledsoe or Knight at the point next season. Ish Smith played that role two seasons ago and is a free agent. Other options could include C.J. Watson, J.J. Barea, Ronnie Price and Euroleague point guards.
If the Suns enter trade talks, they have five first-round picks in the next three drafts to use as chips.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2015/06/27/phoenix-suns-go-big-stature-size-free-agency/29410783/

[Saberestar]

I think we can end with these signings :

Part-time backup PG : Ish Smith ( 2 guaranteed years for him...around $3M for that two years)

Backup C : Alexis Ajinca ( $15M / 3 years)

Big adquisition, character guy , savvy player : Danny Green ( $30M / 3 years)

Backup PF : Brandan Wright ( $28M / 4 years) We have his Bird rights so we can exceed our cap.

Starting SG/ Backup PG : Brandon Knight ( $70M / 5 years ). We have his Bird rights so we can exceed our cap.

[thamadkant]

After the big FAs sign with other teams...
I would like Ajinca as backup Center, somewhere in the 5-6 million a year is OK, but he may get a bigger contract somewhere.

Brandan Wright might leave, someone will offer a lot of money for him.

I can see DeMarre Carroll and Thadeus Young as targets for their long range shooting... but I'd rather have Gallinari over Young.

[thamadkant]

Hornets apparently hesitant on matching any offers for Biyombo.
If Suns loses Wright... Biyombo can be plugged in as back up Center. Still high upside, he is also a lot stronger than Wright can handle banging with the big PFs out West.

[sunskerr]

All this talk about Gallo is really starting to get me interested in what he could do for us at the 4 position.

[Jdiddy701]

Trade/sign a promising PF.

Bledsoe
Booker
Warren
*****
Len


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[Saberestar]

Hornets apparently hesitant on matching any offers for Biyombo.
If Suns loses Wright... Biyombo can be plugged in as back up Center. Still high upside, he is also a lot stronger than Wright can handle banging with the big PFs out West.

He is strictly a C, he has 0 range. If the price is right I like him too.

This is really bad for Charlotte. They have been paying and improving a raw prospect for four years and when he is "decent", at his fourth year, they have to pay him a lot or loosing him. Wha a waste of four years...this is my fear with Archie Goodwin and players like him.

[Bogyo]

Wow, haven't really realized how many useful bigs will be free agents this offseason. Tks for pulling it together NavLDO!
Tend to think that McD can take advantage of the situation, and snag someone to a good contract (like the Lakers had Ed Davis last yr). The only thing he should focus on that the said player (and his agent) should not feel that they were played - much like Dragic and Bledsoe did... Show a bit more respect.

Other than our Wright, I could talk myself into the likes of Davis, Amir, O'quinn or Young if he pans out in our SL team. So this should not be an area of concern. I guess 3 point shootig should be a bigger issue - not too many of good shooters on the market who are worth signing for us in my opinion for one reason or another. I like Milsap for example, but a bit older, smaller, and not franchise player, plus will be too expensive. Danny Green is also good, and young enough, but would take away the time from our young wings, and he is a 3rd/4th option on a championship team, and its highly likely that he will be too expensive as well. And I could go on with this list...

I'm just not sure how we are going to get our franchise player who is top5ish NBA talent - or will turn into one, and lead us back deep into the playoffs. Is it Len? Knight? Warren? As a fan of the team I really hope so, but I wouldn't bet big bucks on it. I can see them having 1-2 all-starish seasons in the right situation, but even that is years from now as the west is so loaded.
I guess we are still in the asset hoarding / young guys developing stage, but I think that McD will pull the trigger on a blockbuster sooner than later, otherwise his job could be in jeopardy in a season or two, if we are still a medicore team.

[BasketballFan7]

With belief around the league that Orlando will not match a max for Tobias Harris, we need to be all over that. He should be our first priority imo, because he improves our shooting and can play the stretch 4 and some 3 for us, on top of being just 22 with upside to grow.

He's not a 4. Plus we have umpteen SFs (4) already. We'd have to move at minimum 2 of them. Plus, plus I'd like to see Warren get a real shot at starting.

As a guy with no Suns bias, I think Warren can be a star-level scorer in the not too distant future.

Am I an idiot?

[NavLDO]

Sources say that the Celtics were discussing a package that included multiple picks and big man Jared Sullinger with New York and that Phoenix talked to members of the organization about a trade involving Eric Bledsoe in the hours leading up to the draft.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-knicks/post/_/id/62410/sources-nyk-celts-talked-sullinger-deal

"It would take a whole lot for us to move Eric Bledsoe, and that's something we haven't even considered. It hasn't been discussed. It's just something we're not looking to do, frankly.

The frustration is, for me, as these rumors get out and if people come and ask me about them, I deny every single one, and if I don't deny one everybody assumes it's true, so that's the frustration; we just don't comment on it.

But we weren't close to trading Eric Bledsoe for anybody in this draft or any other player, we were not dangling him, and that's one of the frustrating parts of my job and our jobs and the media today, but it is what it is and we move on. We're very happy with Eric. We think he's a terrific player and has terrific potential"

http://arizonasports.com/41/1845511/Phoenix-Suns-GM-Were-not-looking-to-trade-Eric-Bledsoe

Ah, yes, the "we love our guy and would never trade him" spiel...Just like Vlade Divac and Cousins. They might trade him for Michael Jordan. And now?? Kings FO have given Cousins agent the 'OK' to find a trade. It's BS, and as we all know here on this forum, unless your team has Lebron, Durant, and I guess now, Curry, and MAYBE one or two others, every other player is technically on the trade block.

The whole "It would take a whole lot for us to move Eric Bledsoe" statement is bunk. Bledsoe will be traded if McD thinks by trading him, our team becomes better--bottom line. So that "whole lot" is really not that much, IMO.

[NavLDO]

Sources say that the Celtics were discussing a package that included multiple picks and big man Jared Sullinger with New York and that Phoenix talked to members of the organization about a trade involving Eric Bledsoe in the hours leading up to the draft.

NavyLDO would love to get Sullinger, he has a man crush on em.

Why yes...yes I do. ...and for anyone who's seen Madagascar--"I like em big, I like em chunky"

[BobbieL]

Sources say that the Celtics were discussing a package that included multiple picks and big man Jared Sullinger with New York and that Phoenix talked to members of the organization about a trade involving Eric Bledsoe in the hours leading up to the draft.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york-knicks/post/_/id/62410/sources-nyk-celts-talked-sullinger-deal

"It would take a whole lot for us to move Eric Bledsoe, and that's something we haven't even considered. It hasn't been discussed. It's just something we're not looking to do, frankly.

The frustration is, for me, as these rumors get out and if people come and ask me about them, I deny every single one, and if I don't deny one everybody assumes it's true, so that's the frustration; we just don't comment on it.

But we weren't close to trading Eric Bledsoe for anybody in this draft or any other player, we were not dangling him, and that's one of the frustrating parts of my job and our jobs and the media today, but it is what it is and we move on. We're very happy with Eric. We think he's a terrific player and has terrific potential"

http://arizonasports.com/41/1845511/Phoenix-Suns-GM-Were-not-looking-to-trade-Eric-Bledsoe

Ah, yes, the "we love our guy and would never trade him" spiel...Just like Vlade Divac and Cousins. They might trade him for Michael Jordan. And now?? Kings FO have given Cousins agent the 'OK' to find a trade. It's BS, and as we all know here on this forum, unless your team has Lebron, Durant, and I guess now, Curry, and MAYBE one or two others, every other player is technically on the trade block.

The whole "It would take a whole lot for us to move Eric Bledsoe" statement is bunk. Bledsoe will be traded if McD thinks by trading him, our team becomes better--bottom line. So that "whole lot" is really not that much, IMO.

I agree with your last statement - if trading Bledsoe helps the team,I am all for it

I think the Suns realy need to push hard for Love - first and foremost.

Second, if you miss on Love -Amare mght ea good short term option
The last thing I want to see is they miss on Love and sign "Hkim Warrick" and "Josh Childress" to mult yearcap sucking deals.

Danny Green or Carroll - to me, fit better if you trade Bledsoe and they slide into the two spot as your shooting guard, wing defender.

[carey]

Why yes...yes I do. ...and for anyone who's seen Madagascar--"I like em big, I like em chunky"

"I like 'em big with somethin' somethin'. They like my sound, they think I'm funky." - Moto Moto, the name so nice you gotta say it twice.

[carey]

As a guy with no Suns bias, I think Warren can be a star-level scorer in the not too distant future.

Am I an idiot?

No, I don't think you are. I was actually watching highlights of Warren last night. People always say he's crafty because he finds weird angles to make shots at or that he isn't an above the rim player. That doesn't mean he doesn't have hops. He does. His 3-point shot is actually not horrible. He has a quicker trigger from there than Bledsoe. If he starts hitting it consistently while retaining the floater game... well, sky is the limit for that kid.