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If there is a good offer I wouldn't mind him traded but I want good value. Otherwise I would keep him. I'm not in the "Knight is the worst player ever, trade him for crap" club.
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ATTL wrote:bwgood77 wrote:ATTL wrote:Dunn with 16/8/7/7 in a loss tonight
Wow, that's impressive...as for your other point about college games being tough to watch, yeah, it's tough for me to get engaged in any game that isn't a Cats game or tourney game.
Outside of Bentil, the rest of his teammates shot 6/35.
This is apparently Dunn's second game of at least 15/7/7/7 this year.
If archie keeps up his current play taking Dunn may be a bit much. I'd still take Dunn depending on where we pick and who is available.
Has no one paid attention to the last 3 years? Have you all not yet figured out McD's MO?
Trade for Combo Guard, who played college ball at Kentucky, Eric Bledsoe
Draft Combo Guard, who played college ball at Kentucky, Archie Goodwin
Trade for Combo Guard, who played college ball at Kentucky, Brandon Knight
Draft Shooting Guard, who played college ball at Kentucky, Devin Booker
So, with that said...
Murray certainly wasn't perfect, as he made a couple of crucial turnovers toward the end of both halves, missed a layup with 17 seconds left and the World Team up three that he probably should have pulled out to run clock, and showed a tendency to over-dribble in the half court, having to heave up a tough jumper at the end of the clock.
ability to play both guard spots and score from all three levels effectively. Murray's skill set has really evolved since the 2014 Nike Hoop Summit, a game where he played fairly well scoring 10 points on 4-for-8 shooting while grabbing five rebounds and dishing five assists.
Ladies and Gentlemen, I present to you, the Suns 1st Round Draft Pick for 2016, regardless of where the Lottery Balls lands us, be it 2nd, 5th, or 8th...
...Please Welcome...Jamal Murray, Combo Guard, University of Kentucky!!
In all seriousness, if we land outside the top 5, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised...
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I would trade Bledsoe for a package that includes a late lottery/mid teens pick and draft his younger clone, Demetrius Jackson as a replacement.
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saintEscaton wrote:I would trade Bledsoe for a package that includes a late lottery/mid teens pick and draft his younger clone, Demetrius Jackson as a replacement.
thanks god you are not GM of the Phoenix Suns
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Barkley_34 wrote:saintEscaton wrote:I would trade Bledsoe for a package that includes a late lottery/mid teens pick and draft his younger clone, Demetrius Jackson as a replacement.
thanks god you are not GM of the Phoenix Suns
Don't think I could do any worse if I had the job. I'm leaning towards keeping Bled over Knight but you'll be hard pressed to get anything better for him. By the time this team even approaches relevance he will be done and dusted and thus does not fit in with the big picture. This offseason is the time to strike while the iron is hot assuming his knee checks out
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If is not possible Simmons or ingram I select Ivan rabb and ulis
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Jsbath wrote:If is not possible Simmons or ingram I select Ivan rabb and ulis
Same but I'd go with Rabb and Trimble,Jackson or LeVert. But if Rabb doesn't declare I'll go with Dunn as BPA
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saintEscaton wrote:I would trade Bledsoe for a package that includes a late lottery/mid teens pick and draft his younger clone, Demetrius Jackson as a replacement.
Bledsoe’s draft pick worth varies according to the draft quality.
If George Hill could get a late lottery pick, maybe its safe to say Bledsoe is worth a pick between 8-12 in a semi-deep draft…. Jrue Holiday got a pick 6 in a “bad” draft.. well “bad” top 10 anyways.
In the 2016 draft, Bledsoe may be worth a pick 5-7… again depending on the team in that range and their needs.
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1UPZ wrote:saintEscaton wrote:I would trade Bledsoe for a package that includes a late lottery/mid teens pick and draft his younger clone, Demetrius Jackson as a replacement.
Bledsoe’s draft pick worth varies according to the draft quality.
If George Hill could get a late lottery pick, maybe its safe to say Bledsoe is worth a pick between 8-12 in a semi-deep draft…. Jrue Holiday got a pick 6 in a “bad” draft.. well “bad” top 10 anyways.
In the 2016 draft, Bledsoe may be worth a pick 5-7… again depending on the team in that range and their needs.
True. Good points but I think only teams on the verge of palyoff contention will be interested. Also the league has learnt from the Sixers ripping of the Pels by not disclosing Holiday's injury history, they got repimanded for passing off damaged goods as brand new
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Draft night trade destination for Bledsoe
Pick 5. Wolves. (+ Rubio) for Bledsoe + Pick 26 *Cavs
Pick 6. Pelicans. (+ Evans) for Bledsoe + Pick 26 *Cavs
Pick 8. Bucks. For Bledsoe
Draft night trade destination for Knight
Pick 7. Nuggets. (+ Chandler) for Knight + Pick 26 *Cavs
Pick 9. Kings. For Knight
Pick 11. Wizards. For Knight
Pick 5. Wolves. (+ Rubio) for Bledsoe + Pick 26 *Cavs
Pick 6. Pelicans. (+ Evans) for Bledsoe + Pick 26 *Cavs
Pick 8. Bucks. For Bledsoe
Draft night trade destination for Knight
Pick 7. Nuggets. (+ Chandler) for Knight + Pick 26 *Cavs
Pick 9. Kings. For Knight
Pick 11. Wizards. For Knight
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I wouldn't mind trading them both and creating super-young core of players with no more than 4 years difference.
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Damkac wrote:I wouldn't mind trading them both and creating super-young core of players with no more than 4 years difference.
Use the money saved up to sign another position... or upgrade the arena and facilities and food lol, like real jalapenos instead of pickles... and warm cheese
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I'm very intrigued by the three gangly prospects in this draft - Bender, Zimmerman, and Qi. Can we draft all three?
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So I dreamed I was in the war room with Hornacek and we were picking 7th and we had a list with only one name: Rabb.
Take that for what it's worth. (Nothing)
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What do you all think about A.J. Hammons out of Purdue for our 2nd Rd pick, if we keep it? He's a 23 YO Center that will be 24 by the start of next season. He's having a good season this year, following up a good 2nd half of the season last year.
He measured at 7' with a 7'3" Wingspan in 2011, and apparently it's thought that those measurements have 'increased' since then. He's about 280lbs, but apparently doesn't have an issue getting that weight up in the air for Blks and Oops. He gets 'gassed' often, but I bet that can be somewhat fixed by getting him down about 20 lbs.
From what I've read about him, I think he'd be a good protégé for Chandler, if we keep Chandler for another year or two, and might be a good backup candidate for Len following the departure of Chandler. What I like about him is his 2.4 Blks per 24 minutes this season, 2.8 Blks per 24 minutes last season, and his 3.1 Blks per 25 minutes the year prior. That, and the fact that he's stayed healthy all 4 years, playing between 23-25 minutes per game all 4 years.
He'll likely never be a starter, but might be good for 15mpg coming off the bench. Thoughts?
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/A.J.-Hammons-7070/stats/
He measured at 7' with a 7'3" Wingspan in 2011, and apparently it's thought that those measurements have 'increased' since then. He's about 280lbs, but apparently doesn't have an issue getting that weight up in the air for Blks and Oops. He gets 'gassed' often, but I bet that can be somewhat fixed by getting him down about 20 lbs.
From what I've read about him, I think he'd be a good protégé for Chandler, if we keep Chandler for another year or two, and might be a good backup candidate for Len following the departure of Chandler. What I like about him is his 2.4 Blks per 24 minutes this season, 2.8 Blks per 24 minutes last season, and his 3.1 Blks per 25 minutes the year prior. That, and the fact that he's stayed healthy all 4 years, playing between 23-25 minutes per game all 4 years.
He'll likely never be a starter, but might be good for 15mpg coming off the bench. Thoughts?
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/A.J.-Hammons-7070/stats/
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NavLDO wrote:What do you all think about A.J. Hammons out of Purdue for our 2nd Rd pick, if we keep it? He's a 23 YO Center that will be 24 by the start of next season. He's having a good season this year, following up a good 2nd half of the season last year.
He measured at 7' with a 7'3" Wingspan in 2011, and apparently it's thought that those measurements have 'increased' since then. He's about 280lbs, but apparently doesn't have an issue getting that weight up in the air for Blks and Oops. He gets 'gassed' often, but I bet that can be somewhat fixed by getting him down about 20 lbs.
From what I've read about him, I think he'd be a good protégé for Chandler, if we keep Chandler for another year or two, and might be a good backup candidate for Len following the departure of Chandler. What I like about him is his 2.4 Blks per 24 minutes this season, 2.8 Blks per 24 minutes last season, and his 3.1 Blks per 25 minutes the year prior. That, and the fact that he's stayed healthy all 4 years, playing between 23-25 minutes per game all 4 years.
He'll likely never be a starter, but might be good for 15mpg coming off the bench. Thoughts?
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/A.J.-Hammons-7070/stats/
Yeah, any big with a great BLK/PF ratio would be welcomed in this team.
He's the only one who fits the bill in the top60 by DX.
Last year we had more options, this year he may be the only one.
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saintEscaton wrote:Jsbath wrote:If is not possible Simmons or ingram I select Ivan rabb and ulis
Same but I'd go with Rabb and Trimble,Jackson or LeVert. But if Rabb doesn't declare I'll go with Dunn as BPA
I haven't watched enough, but a few mocks have Rabb going after 7 more around 10. Why is that outside of the usual, they don't know what they are talking about which most do not. I went over the last 7 drafts, and boy did a lot of teams whiff on a lot of guys.
Such a crap shoot!
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NavLDO wrote:What do you all think about A.J. Hammons out of Purdue for our 2nd Rd pick, if we keep it? He's a 23 YO Center that will be 24 by the start of next season. He's having a good season this year, following up a good 2nd half of the season last year.
He measured at 7' with a 7'3" Wingspan in 2011, and apparently it's thought that those measurements have 'increased' since then. He's about 280lbs, but apparently doesn't have an issue getting that weight up in the air for Blks and Oops. He gets 'gassed' often, but I bet that can be somewhat fixed by getting him down about 20 lbs.
From what I've read about him, I think he'd be a good protégé for Chandler, if we keep Chandler for another year or two, and might be a good backup candidate for Len following the departure of Chandler. What I like about him is his 2.4 Blks per 24 minutes this season, 2.8 Blks per 24 minutes last season, and his 3.1 Blks per 25 minutes the year prior. That, and the fact that he's stayed healthy all 4 years, playing between 23-25 minutes per game all 4 years.
He'll likely never be a starter, but might be good for 15mpg coming off the bench. Thoughts?
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/A.J.-Hammons-7070/stats/
He is the type of player you draft in the second round. He has the physical tools and his stats are OK. The age does not bother me at all.
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kennydorglas wrote:NavLDO wrote:What do you all think about A.J. Hammons out of Purdue for our 2nd Rd pick, if we keep it? He's a 23 YO Center that will be 24 by the start of next season. He's having a good season this year, following up a good 2nd half of the season last year.
He measured at 7' with a 7'3" Wingspan in 2011, and apparently it's thought that those measurements have 'increased' since then. He's about 280lbs, but apparently doesn't have an issue getting that weight up in the air for Blks and Oops. He gets 'gassed' often, but I bet that can be somewhat fixed by getting him down about 20 lbs.
From what I've read about him, I think he'd be a good protégé for Chandler, if we keep Chandler for another year or two, and might be a good backup candidate for Len following the departure of Chandler. What I like about him is his 2.4 Blks per 24 minutes this season, 2.8 Blks per 24 minutes last season, and his 3.1 Blks per 25 minutes the year prior. That, and the fact that he's stayed healthy all 4 years, playing between 23-25 minutes per game all 4 years.
He'll likely never be a starter, but might be good for 15mpg coming off the bench. Thoughts?
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/A.J.-Hammons-7070/stats/
Yeah, any big with a great BLK/PF ratio would be welcomed in this team.
He's the only one who fits the bill in the top60 by DX.
Last year we had more options, this year he may be the only one.
I wouldn't mind him, but I'd rather take Tarczewski in the 2nd round. Throwback player who doesn't care about scoring. Excels at rebounding, defense, is mobile, and sets great picks. He can hit a jumper enough to have to be guarded.
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JMac1 wrote:saintEscaton wrote:Jsbath wrote:If is not possible Simmons or ingram I select Ivan rabb and ulis
Same but I'd go with Rabb and Trimble,Jackson or LeVert. But if Rabb doesn't declare I'll go with Dunn as BPA
I haven't watched enough, but a few mocks have Rabb going after 7 more around 10. Why is that outside of the usual, they don't know what they are talking about which most do not. I went over the last 7 drafts, and boy did a lot of teams whiff on a lot of guys.
Such a crap shoot!
Draftexpress has Rabb at 13 and Jaylen Brown at 5. If these guys are THAT good, why is Cal 7th in the PAC 12? I know this is probably the best year in the PAC 12 in a LONG time, if ever...I mean look at the Bruins, who beat Kentucky. They are tied for 9th.