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Phnxsports · Post #141 » by **Phnxsports** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 3:46 am

So much I want to say and vent but that would be way to long a post. I honestly don't even blame Beal. When Vogels offense is hurry up give the ball to Booker or hurry up give it to Durant its no wonder Beal and the bench is underachieving. Just my opinion

AtheJ415 · Post #142 » by **AtheJ415** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 3:47 am

Golanator wrote:
Revived wrote:You guys are telling me we’re committing so many dumbass turnovers often….i wonder if having a PG like Tyus Jones that’s available for 2nd rd picks can help with that?

The problem with Tyus, good player, who do you sit for him? Definitely not Book. Allen has been great. Gordon has his role. Beal taking less minutes to get Tyus on the floor?

We’re already a small team. I wouldn’t be mad at a PG to play in the non-Book minutes but what we really need is more size. A big wing and a better backup C imo

I think you easily sit Grayson for him. Tyus is one of the best PnR players in the league and he defends. Grayson tries on D but s a horrid defender. I like Grayson's shooting but I don't think there's a single thing other than shooting that Grayson does better than Tyus

SunsRback4Good · Post #143 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 4:00 am

Phnxsports wrote:So much I want to say and vent but that would be way to long a post. I honestly don't even blame Beal. When Vogels offense is hurry up give the ball to Booker or hurry up give it to Durant its no wonder Beal and the bench is underachieving. Just my opinion

Yup, everything in our system is sloppy and rushed. Why does Booker or KD have to take a quick shot? Why not move the ball around until a player is open we play much better basketball when nobody knows who’s gonna shoot making us unpredictable. This isn’t 7 seconds or less but it damn well feels like it.

AtheJ415 · Post #144 » by **AtheJ415** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 4:30 am

SunsRback4Good wrote:
Phnxsports wrote:So much I want to say and vent but that would be way to long a post. I honestly don't even blame Beal. When Vogels offense is hurry up give the ball to Booker or hurry up give it to Durant its no wonder Beal and the bench is underachieving. Just my opinion

Yup, everything in our system is sloppy and rushed. Why does Booker or KD have to take a quick shot? Why not move the ball around until a player is open we play much better basketball when nobody knows who’s gonna shoot making us unpredictable. This isn’t 7 seconds or less but it damn well feels like it.

I actually don't mind it given the percentages they are shooting. The issue is the turnovers on offense. We need to take quick 3s when there. And e need to play even a lick of defense. The effort on that end is so unacceptable. And it's especially criminal because when we do try on defense we are not terrible there. We just don't have the mentality to give a ****

Mulhollanddrive · Post #145 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 4:36 am

4th quarters and defense can't be that hard

SlovenianDragon · Post #146 » by **SlovenianDragon** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 4:38 am

Man its tough to see this team winning the chip... the only thing i can hope for is that they are going to better in a 7 game series...Just like the way Booker can get hot like we saw in the 2 games against denver...KD can get hot and beal can get hot despite his recent struggles...I dont think we win any series in the playoffs easy...Will probably we ugly and riddles with loses if we do win the chip...Dont expect any Suns in 4 this year lol

AtheJ415 · Post #147 » by **AtheJ415** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 5:13 am

SlovenianDragon wrote:Man its tough to see this team winning the chip... the only thing i can hope for is that they are going to better in a 7 game series...Just like the way Booker can get hot like we saw in the 2 games against denver...KD can get hot and beal can get hot despite his recent struggles...I dont think we win any series in the playoffs easy...Will probably we ugly and riddles with loses if we do win the chip...Dont expect any Suns in 4 this year lol

In the playoffs when the offense slows down having the stars will help more, but our lack of defense and poor decisions will still kill us. We have to play with effort consistently and once that is etablished move onto improving decisionmaking. We can't consistently perform in either area, which reflects on lack of coaching and leadership

garrick · Post #148 » by **garrick** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 6:00 am

AtheJ415 wrote:
Golanator wrote:
Revived wrote:You guys are telling me we’re committing so many dumbass turnovers often….i wonder if having a PG like Tyus Jones that’s available for 2nd rd picks can help with that?

The problem with Tyus, good player, who do you sit for him? Definitely not Book. Allen has been great. Gordon has his role. Beal taking less minutes to get Tyus on the floor?

We’re already a small team. I wouldn’t be mad at a PG to play in the non-Book minutes but what we really need is more size. A big wing and a better backup C imo

I think you easily sit Grayson for him. Tyus is one of the best PnR players in the league and he defends. Grayson tries on D but s a horrid defender. I like Grayson's shooting but I don't think there's a single thing other than shooting that Grayson does better than Tyus

I am all in on trading Grayson for Tyus as long as we can keep Tyus in the offseason.

I don't think he's a horrible defender but his physical limitations means he will never be an elite lockdown defender

Revived · Post #149 » by **Revived** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 6:53 am

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Biff · Post #150 » by **Biff** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 8:07 am

Just logging on to say again that I hate this team and can't wait until we blow it up. I hope Ishbia realizes after this that buying a ring doesn't work. Get some damn scouts and start building the team from the ground up.

Saberestar · Post #151 » by **Saberestar** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 8:24 am

We couldn't stop their offense, that's the story of the game.

We scored 120 points and we had good moments playing our half court sets but it is crazy how great is Trae Young as a long range scorer/facilitator, we couldn't do **** to stop him.

I have read somewhere that we have lost something like 9 consecutive times in Atlanta, lucky that they are in the East because is a nightmare every year lol.

Not a big deal. We need to win tomorrow to the Wizards and we will end our long road trip with a 4-3 winning record.

Bogyo · Post #152 » by **Bogyo** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 8:25 am

Not a great game. Masked beal can't shoot. Vogel has serious work to do on the offense, but thats nothing new. Hopefully he is doing his work, and JJ is doing his adding some talent here.
We are 2-3 on this eastern road trip so far, our L in Indy was a bit flukey, could have gone either way. Our L in Disneyland pissed me off, we sucked there, no effort, dumb plays. I liked the Miami win and got not much to say about BKN. This was just a mid season game on a long road trip which could have gone eiher way, most of the team stats were fairly similar... so, whatever I guess.
We should win against Wasington and then a big game against the Bucks. We finish the 7 game road trip (most likely) 3-4 or 4-3, which is OK I guess - especially since Beal can't shoot for sht in that mask.

Hitachi77 · Post #153 » by **Hitachi77** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 11:18 am

In a vacuum, I’m not worried about a loss like this. It’s a talented team who can beat anyone, especially on their home floor. And a team we don’t play often and don’t know well, so this stuff happens.

But this might be the most unpredictable team of all time. We have some excellent road wins where we gave the opposing team their worst loss of the season. We also have some horrendous losses. Overall I’m happy with how much better the team has played since the Sac comeback, but we have a long way to go. Maybe the lack of effort on D is because the team knows the regular season doesn’t matter that much and they don’t want to exert so much effort and possibly get hurt again. One can hope.

kennydorglas · Post #154 » by **kennydorglas** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 1:20 pm

Time to adjust our expectations.
This team doesnt have what it takes to bring championships here, starting from the coach.

Funky Tut · Post #155 » by **Funky Tut** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 1:50 pm

You just have to beat teams like the Hawks, Spurs, Wizards, etc. There are three teams in the West that I think we have very little chance against in a 7 games series as of right now unless things change.

1. Denver
2. OKC
3. LAC

As of right now, I want no business with any of those teams in a 7 game series, which essentially renders this season a disappointment. I think we are a top 5 team in the West, but not a top 3, which is just a let down.

Funky Tut · Post #156 » by **Funky Tut** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 1:52 pm

kennydorglas wrote:Time to adjust our expectations.
This team doesnt have what it takes to bring championships here, starting from the coach.

Yep, no way this team gets past Denver, OKC, or LAC in a 7 game series, not unless things change.

SunsRback4Good · Post #157 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Sat Feb 3, 2024 2:20 pm

Gave away such a likable team with chemistry for a bunch of mercenaries.

Calvin Klein · Post #158 » by **Calvin Klein** » Sun Feb 4, 2024 3:36 pm

SunsRback4Good wrote:Gave away such a likable team with chemistry for a bunch of mercenaries.

...who won't even surpass what the previous team did.

handsome salary · Post #159 » by **handsome salary** » Sun Feb 4, 2024 6:26 pm

SunsRback4Good wrote:Gave away such a likable team with chemistry and NBA historic playoff defeats for a bunch of mercenaries.

Fixed it.

Sure I'd like Bridges and maybe Cam to still be on the team but everyones else...CP3, Ayton, Shamet, Craig, Saric, Landale, Wainright, Sticks...not missing them at all.

Revived · Post #160 » by **Revived** » Tue Feb 6, 2024 7:15 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Revived wrote:You guys are telling me we’re committing so many dumbass turnovers often….i wonder if having a PG like Tyus Jones that’s available for 2nd rd picks can help with that?

If we could get him for 2nd round picks, we should for sure. It would be dumb not to. It seems they would get a better offer...but then again, most teams have starting PGs.

Better offer from who? I doubt most teams would be open to sending more than 2nd rd picks for a 30 game rental. He’s a FA this summer.

He’s not netting a 1st rd pick for 30 games imo.

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