UFC 186 (4/25): DJ vs Horiguchi

REDDzone · Post #1 » by **REDDzone** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 2:15 am

MAIN CARD
Pay-per-view, 10 p.m. ET
Demetrious Johnson vs. Kyoji Horiguchi for flyweight title
Fabio Maldonado vs. opponent TBA
Michael Bisping vs. C.B. Dollaway
Shane Campbell vs. John Makdessi
Thomas Almeida vs. Yves Jabouin

PRELIMINARY CARD
FOX Sports 1, 8 p.m. ET
Patrick Cote vs. Joe Riggs
Alexis Davis vs. Sarah Kaufman
Bryan Barberena vs. Chad Laprise
Olivier Aubin-Mercier vs. David Michaud

PRELIMINARY CARD
UFC Fight Pass, 7 p.m. ET
Chris Clements vs. Nordine Taleb
Valerie Letourneau vs. Jessica Rakoczy
Aisling Daly vs. Randa Markos

Post #2 » by **CPT** » Sun Jan 18, 2015 2:21 am

Meh.

Almost good just because of Rory/Lombard, but I don't have much interest in Dillashaw/Barao II yet, and the Rampage/Bisping fights are lame, but you know will be main card fights, because Rampage/Bisping.

Post #3 » by **Marcus** » Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:07 pm

who do folks have winning between Hector and Rory?

REDDzone · Post #4 » by **REDDzone** » Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:38 pm

Bernman · Post #5 » by **Bernman** » Tue Jan 27, 2015 10:42 pm

Rory by maniacal, repetitive jab, although I think it will be compelling throughout to the type of fan who enjoys watching Machida fight due to the anticipation and footwork dynamic. It will continually be a question of if Lombard can bull his way in, step to an angle, or time a big counter-strike that is a game-changer. One thing that Lombard has going for him is that Rory isn't exactly a kicking monster, as well as his history of liking to play the bully but not so much be bullied. Hector has to get into that position first. I'd cap this at about a 2:1 in favor of Rory (sans vig).

Post #6 » by **CPT** » Sun Feb 8, 2015 2:52 am

Updated card:

T.J. Dillashaw vs. Renan Barao for UFC bantamweight title
Hector Lombard vs. Rory MacDonald
Quinton Jackson vs. Fabio Maldonado
Michael Bisping vs. C.B. Dollaway
Patrick Cote vs. Joe Riggs
Olivier Aubin-Mercier vs. David Michaud
Valerie Letourneau vs. Jessica Rakoczy
Claudio Silva vs. Nordine Taleb
John Makdessi vs. Abel Trujillo
Thomas Almeida vs. Yves Jabouin

NZB2323 · Post #7 » by **NZB2323** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:34 pm

What does MTL mean?

REDDzone · Post #8 » by **REDDzone** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:39 pm

Montreal. Also, I updated the OP with full card.

NZB2323 · Post #9 » by **NZB2323** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:17 pm

Rory vs. Lombard has been pulled, Mighty Mouse vs. a Japanese dude replaces it as the co-main.

http://www.ufc.com/news/UFC-186-Johnson ... main-event

REDDzone · Post #10 » by **REDDzone** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:34 pm

What is with the ufc's obsession of killing off prospects? This dude had already stated that he isn't ready for a title shot yet.

Post #11 » by **Headliner** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:33 pm

Which one of Rory/Lombard is injured?

Bernman · Post #12 » by **Bernman** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:34 pm

Of course they couldn't finally give Hector an opportunity to move up the ladder before he's way over the hill, at which point they can set him up to lose and say I told you so afterward. Zuffa's treatment of the guy has been despicable. Good thing he's a prick or I'd feel even worse for him.

Bernman · Post #13 » by **Bernman** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:38 pm

Headliner wrote:Which one of Rory/Lombard is injured?

It's not Hector because he had to learn from Ariel the match was canceled, and no explanation was ever given as to why by Zuffa so it probably wasn't Rory either. They are presumably just tabling him for a title shot and icing Hector. They couldn't have even allowed Hector a terrible style match-up to try and reach the top of the mountain before age clearly won't allow it. They probably reschedule Hector with DHK next because he's outside the ww top 10 and reminds them of Okami.

Post #14 » by **Headliner** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:43 pm

I know it's probably been mentioned in another thread, and talked to death, but what is the reason the UFC brass seem to be against Hector?
Is it simply a case of a guy with intense knockout power with the ability to create really exciting fights, who doesn't always get the knockout and when he doesn't has really boring fights?
That's a really hard guy to market, cause if you promise a great fight and it's a dud, people get upset. Still though, hardly a reason to bury the guy.

Bernman · Post #15 » by **Bernman** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:50 pm

He used to fight with Bellator, he made 300k to show off the bat, unlike most good soldiers he was publicly irked with them when they were jerky, and his fights are inconsistent in terms of excitement.

I don't agree with the assessment of really boring fights though. To me that hasn't been the case outside of against Boetsch. Otherwise they are ordinary if he doesn't get the ko. There was plenty of tension against Burkman. If people find that really boring, it's a matter of too high of expectations going in. And what that fight plus others of his lacked more than anything was the courage of opponents. Opponents that didn't get ko'ed either were trying to run or stay sticky.

Mehar · Post #16 » by **Mehar** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:20 pm

NZB2323 wrote:Rory vs. Lombard has been pulled, Mighty Mouse vs. a Japanese dude replaces it as the co-main.

http://www.ufc.com/news/UFC-186-Johnson ... main-event

Sucks since that was one fight i was looking forward to. I have no idea why the UFC would just cancel the fight out of the blue. My thinking is that the UFC probably wants Lombard to headline the UFC Manilla Show against a guy like Condit or Stungun in May. Maybe they will give Rory a crack at Lawler in August, in a Canadian city. Only time will tell. In my opinion-they have wasted Hector for the past year. Maybe because he came from Bellator, made a lot of money in the beginning (even though he has taken a drastic pay cut now), his attitude, etc. However- he does not deserve this **** treatment. Guy was texted by Helwani and told about his fight being cancelled. Ridiculous. Hopefully he gets a legitimate top ten guy in his next fight. Enough of fighting guys like Burkman.

REDDzone · Post #17 » by **REDDzone** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:46 pm

Bernman wrote:
Headliner wrote:Which one of Rory/Lombard is injured?

It's not Hector because he had to learn from Ariel the match was canceled, and no explanation was ever given as to why by Zuffa so it probably wasn't Rory either. They are presumably just tabling him for a title shot and icing Hector. They couldn't have even allowed Hector a terrible style match-up to try and reach the top of the mountain before age clearly won't allow it. They probably reschedule Hector with DHK next because he's outside the ww top 10 and reminds them of Okami.

This is the same crap I was talking about with the ufc during the Cowboy/Benson thing. Can you at least have the decency to tell a guy when his number one contender fight has been canceled? Such a joke.

REDDzone · Post #18 » by **REDDzone** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:48 pm

I don't think this is confirmed quite yet, but there are some pretty juicy rumors going around about Mr. Lombard right now...

Nemesis21 · Post #19 » by **Nemesis21** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:00 pm

For those thinking the fight was cancelled randomly,

http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/12306 ... c-186-bout

Mehar · Post #20 » by **Mehar** » Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:09 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:For those thinking the fight was cancelled randomly,

http://espn.go.com/mma/story/_/id/12306 ... c-186-bout

That is a good reason for the fight to be cancelled. I remember Hector saying a couple of years ago that he is willing to be tested anytime, he is clean, all natural, etc. Disappointed in Hector, and bad for his career, since he will face a suspension for this, with no title shot opportunities in 2015.