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REDDzone wrote:I think my point is that these guys (Khamzat, Werdum, Weidman, etc.) hang out with this twerp because he's worth a hundred million dollars and he rolls out the red carpet for fighters because he likes to pretend to be one himself, as opposed to traveling to his palace however so often because if they don't they're going to be murdered.
Doctor MJ wrote:I don't understand why people jump in a thread and say basically, "This thing you're all talking about. I'm too ignorant to know anything about it. Lollerskates!"
REDDzone wrote:Honestly, we've heard that excuse for years but supposedly Khabib fell out of favor with him and he seems to be doing just fine. It seems like Kadyrov really only goes after people who speak out against him publicly. Who knows though.
Stephen Jackson wrote:Make sure u want these problems. Goggle me slime. Im in da streets.
UFC president Dana White says fighter pay in the organization won't change dramatically while he is in his current position, telling GQ in a video published Thursday that he believes fighters "get paid what they're supposed to get paid."
The topic of fighter pay has been a hot-button issue in MMA for years and was thrust further into the spotlight by YouTuber-turned-boxer Jake Paul in recent months. White has said that he believes high-profile boxers are overpaid and reiterated in the GQ interview that he believes UFC fighters are paid more reasonably.
"Boxing has absolutely been destroyed, because of money and all the things that go on," White said. "It's never gonna happen while I'm here. Believe me, these guys get paid what they're supposed to get paid. They eat what they kill. They get a percentage of the pay-per-view buys. And the money is spread out amongst all the fighters."
lilfishi22 wrote:More than ever....we are in the championship or bust endgame
cowboyronnie wrote:"Boxing has absolutely been destroyed"
Boxing is wildly popular and mints dozens upon dozens of millionaires a year. Really, in what way is boxing destroyed? If more boxers make more money than the UFC (fact), how can the sport be destroyed? I mean *UFCers* make more money in boxing than in their UFC careers. Because the promoters don't make as much money as teh UFC does???
and still be treated as if you were reasonable. Knickfan1982 wrote:cowboyronnie wrote:"Boxing has absolutely been destroyed"
Boxing is wildly popular and mints dozens upon dozens of millionaires a year. Really, in what way is boxing destroyed? If more boxers make more money than the UFC (fact), how can the sport be destroyed? I mean *UFCers* make more money in boxing than in their UFC careers. Because the promoters don't make as much money as teh UFC does???
I think he means its dead in the sense that interest in it has really waned. The best fighters are scattered amongst different promotions and they get paid too much money to fight low risk fights so making the fights fans want to see is prohibitively expensive.
We shouldn't have had to wait so goshdarn long to see Errol Spence vs. Terrance Crawford or Keith Thurman. We shouldn't have had to wait 4 years for Canelo vs. GGG 3 even though their rivaly started with gamesmanship all the way back in late 2015/early 2016. With Vasily Lomachenko, Devin Haney, Ryan Garcia, Gervonta Davis and Teofimo Lopez all sharing the same division in recent years its a damned shame we only got to see one fight amongst this group. With middleweight at one point having GGG, Canelo, Jermall Charlo, Demetrious Andrade and Jaime Munguia its a damned shame that the only 2 big names have fought each other and as I mentioned before it took 4 years to get the needed trilogy fight made.
You can go division by division. Politics, greed and cowardice have kept the best fights from happening.
cowboyronnie wrote:I think he means its dead in the sense that interest in it has really waned. The best fighters are scattered amongst different promotions and they get paid too much money to fight low risk fights so making the fights fans want to see is prohibitively expensive.
We shouldn't have had to wait so goshdarn long to see Errol Spence vs. Terrance Crawford or Keith Thurman. We shouldn't have had to wait 4 years for Canelo vs. GGG 3 even though their rivaly started with gamesmanship all the way back in late 2015/early 2016. With Vasily Lomachenko, Devin Haney, Ryan Garcia, Gervonta Davis and Teofimo Lopez all sharing the same division in recent years its a damned shame we only got to see one fight amongst this group. With middleweight at one point having GGG, Canelo, Jermall Charlo, Demetrious Andrade and Jaime Munguia its a damned shame that the only 2 big names have fought each other and as I mentioned before it took 4 years to get the needed trilogy fight made.
You can go division by division. Politics, greed and cowardice have kept the best fights from happening.
But none of this has to do with the sheer fact that boxers make good money. It has to do with promotions/promoters. So it's not an argument for tempering boxers' pay (or MMA fighters', which is what Dana is arguing).
More money to fighters *within* a promotion is not going to cause this problem.
Also, there are countless massive MMA fights that have not happened (Fedor v anyone) and that are not happening right now. Everyone wants to see Patricio Pittbull or AJ McKee fight Volk or Holloway. The issue is that they are in another promotion, while we get Volk vs Holloway III.
The issue is clearly not fighter pay but splintered promotional entities.
and still be treated as if you were reasonable. Jasen777 wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:More than ever....we are in the championship or bust endgame
props to Turbo_Zone 
lilfishi22 wrote:More than ever....we are in the championship or bust endgame
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this is sad.