WWE TV Thread: NINE finishers later... Cena kicks out!

[Stanford]

I just feel like, watching him, someone is gonna get hurt while facing him.

That's a great thing! I'm sticking with my original comments on this issue. I don't they'd throw him on there on free TV with the champ if he was an unsafe worker. I mean, compare his resume with say Owen Hart, who broke Steve Austins neck 5 years after Austin broke Chono's. RySkip Sheffback, to the best of my knowledge, hasn't injured anyone.

[Stanford]

Can't wait to be annoyed when Brandon gives the rock nothing but worsts

I think he nailed it.

[Dunthreevy]

I'm just afraid they're gonna paint themselves in a corner with Ryback. How are they gonna keep the momentum goin?

I think it works as long as he gets a big win at Mania. If he ends up with a title shot against Big Show, he can deal with the Shield in a losing effort until then. I think.

The ziggler match was bullsh*t and really just buries ziggler for those trying to buy him as a legit main eventer. I doubt anyone here actually thought he'd win and of course it was once again cemented in my mind

Mm. Don't get why he couldn't have taken the pin after Big E hit his finisher. It pretty much eliminates any reason to care about a match between them in the future.

Can't wait to be annoyed when Brandon gives the rock nothing but worsts

You were a fan of cookiepuss, crackhead popeye, and the rest? I understand he's gotta start with that schtick, but can't he cut the dick jokes after a certain point? When they exchanged the "Boxing with God" and "The Great One" lines, why go back to them?

It looked to me as if Rock was doing his best to keep me uninterested in an angle I'm dying to be interested in.

I don't know. I thought it was a good segment, but it wasn't without its flaws.

I'm with Stan The Man 100%. The way we complained about Cena ruining great Punk promos by being the super cheesy good guy, The Rock did the same crap last night and sounded almost worst. I'd rather hear Cena's shtick over Rock's at this point because I at least believe Cena (he really believes the crap he says). The Rock is just out there making dick and fart jokes and talking about pastries and cookies. How that crap is entertaining to a stadium full of people is beyond me. I could see if it was just the women and little kids cheering him on but you could see grown men in the crowd last night eating up every bit of cookiepuss The Rock fed them last night. If there has ever been a case of a guy living off his reputation, The Rock in his current state is it.

Punk was on fire last night and delivered one of the best heel promos I've ever heard. I mean he REALLY cut deep with some of that stuff, to the point where I was even like "damn man that kind of hurt. Why am I a fan of this a-hole?" and then I realized he was working the hell out of the crowd. Punk is THE best heel the business has seen in at least a decade, and potentially the best ever because he says so much real stuff. He basically stood in the ring last night and told us all why we're complete nerds for even watching his show but did it so well that we loved it and forgot he was insulting us.

[Dunthreevy]

I just feel like, watching him, someone is gonna get hurt while facing him.

That's a great thing! I'm sticking with my original comments on this issue. I don't they'd throw him on there on free TV with the champ if he was an unsafe worker. I mean, compare his resume with say Owen Hart, who broke Steve Austins neck 5 years after Austin broke Chono's. RySkip Sheffback, to the best of my knowledge, hasn't injured anyone.

I'm constantly defending Ryback on here but last night was the first time I've seen him do something that I thought was over the top unsafe and that was when he put Punk through the table. The way he did it, Punk landed in a very awkward way and COULD HAVE been very seriously injured. Maybe it just looked that way to me, but it looked pretty bad the way he dumped him over the top rope.

[studcrackers]

Idk I was pretty drunk when I watched it last night living off the high of the Bama title. Perhaps if I watched it clear headed I'd have hated it.

Perhaps I just lumped both promos together

[Celtsfan1980]

I just have a hard time knowing what makes a great Royal Rumble/battle royal and what makes others not so great. I always thought the 1992 one is considered great primarily because the critics' golden boy won. If anyone but Flair had won, would it be looked at the same way?

[Vandal Savage]

I just have a hard time knowing what makes a great Royal Rumble/battle royal and what makes others not so great. I always thought the 1992 one is considered great primarily because the critics' golden boy won. If anyone but Flair had won, would it be looked at the same way?

I can tell you how a not so great one looks. The one two years ago (I think) that was filled with stupid comedy. Cena and Hornswoggle crap in the ring together.

[spykelee]

I liked Raw but certainly some talking points;

Rocky was lame I thought. Honestly I thought he'd bring it a lot bigger and better than he did. He was so cliche and predictable. Punk killed it as usual. Rocky needs to step up in the microphone battle and not just be a walking catchphrase.

The Ryback... I'm shocked that WWE allowed Punk to compete in a TLC match on Raw so recently removed from surgery. Those moves did look devastating and painful, and I'm shocked they would risk there meal ticket taking shots like that so soon after surgery and heading into the rumble. I think Ryback probably is as safe as a guy like him can be, but to me, that means he isn't entirely safe, as few big powerful guys, with that kind of moveset are. The two just do not go hand in hand. Anyways, that was a great match, I'm just shocked they had punk take the bumps that he did. That seemed completely pointless and risky.

Also shocked they had Cena kick out of so many of Dolph's finishers, and why is Dolph even with Big E? AJ I can understand, but he doesn't need Big E. IMO, he should distance himself from Big E and work on establishing himself as a legit main eventer, as we all know he is.

Kaitlyn is terrible. She is easily the ugliest diva, Tamina aside... and I don't get why they keep trying to push her.

All in all a pretty good Raw though. Much better than the last few weeks that's for sure.

[Banco]

Wait what?

Alberto Del Rio is the new World Heavyweight Champion. He defeated The Big Show in a last man standing match on Smackdown

[Vandal Savage]

Him as a face doesnt work well. He might feud with a heel Orton now.

[spykelee]

I actually don't mind Del Rio as a face. But his turn had to be about the laziest writing we've seen in recent time.

Anyways, on that spolier;

I'm shocked that they'd take the title off Big Show like that. I like Del Rio and all, in fact, probably even more than most here... but I thought they'd done a good job building up big show and making him legit. And Show had done a great job as champion I thought. He's had a real good 6 or so months.

[whysoserious]

I actually don't mind Del Rio as a face. But his turn had to be about the laziest writing we've seen in recent time.

Anyways, on that spolier;

I'm shocked that they'd take the title off Big Show like that. I like Del Rio and all, in fact, probably even more than most here... but I thought they'd done a good job building up big show and making him legit. And Show had done a great job as champion I thought. He's had a real good 6 or so months.

I like Del Rio a lot. In the ring he's solid, on the mic he's pretty good but as you said, they didn't even turn him properly. Fans in the arena are like do we boo this guy like before, do we cheer him now, what do we do?

[Stanford]

I officially have no idea what's going on with the WHC for Mania. So many options now.

[jr lucosa]

My thoughts on the spoiler

So many things wrong with this. Big Show is in the best stretch of his career, they've done a great job building him as a legit main eventer and he's done a great job all around. I'm a Del Rio fan, he's very good inside the ring, but outside the ring I only see heel characteristics. The thick accent, stupid winky face, his whole snake oil salesmen look, he screams heel and as a face who's going to be smiling and trying to connect with the fans... I don't know, I'm expecting a bunch of cringeworthy promo's from the new champ.

Just wrong. Del Rio was nowhere near properly built up he wasn't even properly turned. Big Show was having a very memorable title reign. I'll try to keep an open mind but I don't know how to spin this as a positive.

[jr lucosa]

Looking forward to SD at least, you'd hope the main event was a pretty good match.