Hornets make Collison available

[sabi]

The Hornets are back in luxury tax territory heading into the 2010-11 season and Marc Stein of ESPN.com writes that they will likely be active on the trade market.

Rival teams will try to convince New Orleans to trade Chris Paul, but it's much more likely that they'll part with promising backup point guard Darren Collison.

Stein writes that the Hornets will likely ask any team interested in Collison to also take one of their cap-clogging contracts -- Emeka Okafor, James Posey or Peja Stojakovic.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/67150/20100612/hornets_may_make_collison_available/

We can offer something like Rudy, Pryz (exp) and Miller (TO) for Collison and Posey


Our lineup would be

Oden/Camby
LMA/Pende
Batum/Posey
Roy/Web
Collison/Bayless

Do it Paul Allen!

[cucad8]

I thought Miller showed last year that this team benefited greatly from his leadership at times, and more than anything, the presence of a true veteran on the court. I'd move Miller in the right deal, and am all for upgrading still the PG spot, but IMO, replacing Miller with Collison next season is a step back. For me, it's no longer, well, really has never been, but is definitely no longer about finding 5 guys all the same age who will theoretically play together happily for 10 years and form a dynasty for us. I want people on our team who are going to help us win NOW.

[NO-KG-AI]

This "wiretap" was speculation by Marc Stein, who is clearly an idiot. How would moving Collison and Peja clear a cap clogging salary? IF Peja is moved, just as much salary has to come back, and Peja is an expiring anyway, so either way, the $$ will be off the books at the same time....

Not that Collison shouldn't be available, but "Hornets may make Collison available" is something we all knew all along.

[NO-KG-AI]

This "wiretap" was speculation by Marc Stein, who is clearly an idiot. How would moving Collison and Peja clear a cap clogging salary? IF Peja is moved, just as much salary has to come back, and Peja is an expiring anyway, so either way, the $$ will be off the books at the same time....

Not that Collison shouldn't be available, but "Hornets may make Collison available" is something we all knew all along.

[sabi]

Yeah if Peja is an expiring then that deal clearly doesn't make sense but what about getting rid of Posey's contract? Would a deal like one I proposed be attractive to NO with some future first rounders as well?

And cucad8, sure Miller has been good for us so far but he's in his 30s and a chance to grab a young prospect like Collins, due the NO's circumstances doesn't come very often. If Portland isn't contacting NO right now to see if a deal can be done then they're not doing their jobs!

[Studley]

I like Andre, but I do think we need to find a long term PG to grow with our core. Collison is a great prospect - defensive minded with solid offense that would work in Nate's system. Hornet's fans are going to bash Rudy and Pryz as being hurt and Andre as too old, though is does address their lux tax.
Monty might be more receptive but I suspect he'd want to include Jerryd or Martell. There are lots of combos that work with them depending on whether it's Posey or Peja. Okafor is too expensive with a commitment of a LaMarcus type contract going to Oden.

I would include Jerryd and/or Martell for the upgrade at PG. Mike Conley might come cheaper.

[DaVoiceMaster]

Do the Hornets wanna rid themselves of Okafor? Who would play center for them? What's Okafor's offense like? Portland could add Okafor with Collison and see what happens with Oden. If he's doing fine with no real injuries, they could look to move Camby unless he'd be happy with a few minutes each game? Just thinking out loud... I would think they'd rather move a large contract than Posey's contract which is really not all that huge (2 years and roughly $14 million total. It would require both Przybilla and Miller go out in the deal though... unless we moved Camby in that deal and held on to Miller??? Portland has some options IF they wanna make a play for Collison.

[NO-KG-AI]

I dunno, I wouldn't mind dumping Posey, but I'd rather just keep him, he is still a contributor, and we could use Collison to bring in real talent, instead of trying to just free up money where we won't be under the cap now.

I still think if Philly takes Evan Turner, what becomes of Iguodala or Thad Young? Collison+ Peja wouldn't be a bad starting place to bring in Iggy IMO. Can anyone think of a better young player along with an expiring that Philly could get back?

[farzi]

But we REALLY want him

[re49gb_2gho32fp]

We can offer something like Rudy, Pryz (exp) and Miller (TO) for Collison and Posey


Our lineup would be

Oden/Camby
LMA/Pende
Batum/Posey
Roy/Web
Collison/Bayless

Do it Paul Allen!

this would be sweet like honey even though i like all three players suggested to swap.
if Peja instead of Posey - full house. unsure if plausible contract wise though with Peja though.
truth is that Miller is serviceable max 1 more year.

[sabi]

Iggy for Collison would be a good deal for NO if they're willing to take on that salary. But if they want some expirirings Portland has plenty. If only Rudy could have built on his rookie year instead of getting injured we'd have a much better chance at pulling off a big trade this summer.

[sabi]

But we REALLY want him

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[re49gb_2gho32fp]

I thought Miller showed last year that this team benefited greatly from his leadership at times, and more than anything, the presence of a true veteran on the court. I'd move Miller in the right deal, and am all for upgrading still the PG spot, but IMO, replacing Miller with Collison next season is a step back. For me, it's no longer, well, really has never been, but is definitely no longer about finding 5 guys all the same age who will theoretically play together happily for 10 years and form a dynasty for us. I want people on our team who are going to help us win NOW.

i hear u. but look at OKC. they're a contender starting next season with current squad. we got guys in mid 20's + camby and howard which is fair.

[NO-KG-AI]

Iggy for Collison would be a good deal for NO if they're willing to take on that salary. But if they want some expirirings Portland has plenty. If only Rudy could have built on his rookie year instead of getting injured we'd have a much better chance at pulling off a big trade this summer.

I don't think the Hornets are ready to blow it up yet, that's the thing.

I'd love to see Paul/Thornton/Iggy/West/Okafor with Posey, Wright, an MLE or something, and our draft picks.

[Manuel Calavera]

I dunno, I wouldn't mind dumping Posey, but I'd rather just keep him, he is still a contributor, and we could use Collison to bring in real talent, instead of trying to just free up money where we won't be under the cap now.

I still think if Philly takes Evan Turner, what becomes of Iguodala or Thad Young? Collison+ Peja wouldn't be a bad starting place to bring in Iggy IMO. Can anyone think of a better young player along with an expiring that Philly could get back?

Cunningham =)