Yes or NO: Batum for Howard?

[re49gb_2gho32fp]

Blazers send Batum with fillers/picks for a rental of Dwight Howard.
Orrrrrr, switch Batum with Wallace.

I'd do this in a heartbeat even if it meant ending up without a small forward to start the off-season.

I assume Hedo would have to be included in which case it makes no sense, however.

[Wizenheimer]

I wish you'd edit this and basically eliminate the thread

it's ridiculous and just makes us look like giant homers. Batum for Howard???...really???

[re49gb_2gho32fp]

Homers? I think you're distorting the presumptions here, if we were gigantic homers as suggested then it would work the other way around - we wouldnt do it.

Add 3 1sts and crawford or what have you. As you may have noticed, there were no specifics outlined to the deal other than the centerpieces.

We got Wallace for 2 crappy picks and scraps. Why wouldnt Magic fall under the marvelous, persuasive tongue of Buchanan when their player leaves at the end for nothing otherwise?
Magic needs to move, and they need to make it quickly

[Yadadimean]

WTF how can ths even be a question??? you give up whatever it takes to get dwight

[Wizenheimer]

Homers? I think you're distorting the presumptions here, if we were gigantic homers as suggested then it would work the other way around - we wouldnt do it.

Add 3 1sts and crawford or what have you. As you may have noticed, there were no specifics outlined to the deal other than the centerpieces.

We got Wallace for 2 crappy picks and scraps. Why wouldnt Magic fall under the marvelous, persuasive tongue of Buchanan when their player leaves at the end for nothing otherwise?
Magic needs to move, and they need to make it quickly

to start, the Blazers can't trade any 1st round picks till about 2017, so they don't have that option. the only picks they can add are 2nd round picks

secondly, Batum only has a salary of 2 million while Howard's salary is 18 million.

as to having "no specifics" other then the principles of Batum for Howard...that's not a strong point

But just for giggles, I'd suggest you copy/paste your OP to the Orlando forum and see what kind of response you get. I guarantee that being called a blazer homer would be one of the milder responses

[Wizenheimer]

WTF how can ths even be a question??? you give up whatever it takes to get dwight

not as a 40 game rental

[rasta_marley]

I wish you'd edit this and basically eliminate the thread

it's ridiculous and just makes us look like giant homers. Batum for Howard???...really???

I kinda have to agree with wiz, when I saw this thread my first thought was, "what is the point of this thread? We all know we would do batum for howard, just as we all know that that would never happen. Hey no big deal man I have made some rookie pointless threads too in my day.

[DusterBuster]

I'd trade a package centered around Batum or Wallace for an un-extended Howard in a heartbeat. The only way the Blazers could ever convince Howard to stay in Portland long-term is if they have had his bird rights and if he was able to spend some actual game time playing at the Rose Garden in front of the Blazer fans. I think the Blazers would have a decent shot at keeping him if they traded for him. At the very least, I think they could convince him to not opt out and stay an extra year.

That said, I wouldn't trade "whatever it takes to get Dwight" though. Aldridge is absolutely off the table in any Dwight deal. But Batum or Wallace, sure. Unfortunately, one of those two players players won't be with the Blazers any longer than what Dwight would be if the Blazers were unsuccessful in convincing him to stay, so the risk isn't as high as some might think.

The deal I've suggested on the forums is this....

Camby
Wallace
Matthews

for

Dwight
Hedo
QRich

That leaves the Blazers looking like this....

Felton/Smith
Crawford/QRich
Batum/Hedo
Aldridge/Smith
Dwight/Thomas

Losing Matthews hurts, but I think it's what the Blazers would have to offer in order to try and compete with the Lakers standing offer of Bynum.

[HanginAround]

lol

[Yadadimean]

WTF how can ths even be a question??? you give up whatever it takes to get dwight

not as a 40 game rental

for the superstar best player at the hardest postion to fill I think you roll the dice on being able to keep him around. especially if it leaves you with a pretty solid supporting cast.

[PDXKnight]

WTF how can ths even be a question??? you give up whatever it takes to get dwight

not as a 40 game rental

for the superstar best player at the hardest postion to fill I think you roll the dice on being able to keep him around. especially if it leaves you with a pretty solid supporting cast.

It all depends on whether we feel Dwight can land us a championship this season. Personally I don't think its worth giving up Matthews, Batum, and Whatever else would be required and take on those atrocious contracts to boot. If Dwight bolts and we don't win a title, that mistake would last for a few seasons. I'd say the odds of us winning a title with a lineup of felton-crawford-wallace-aldridge-dwight and hedo/qrich/thomas as our backups is still slim to none. It'd be an exciting team, but to risk any championship potential we might have over the next 5 seasons for this one seems like a ridiculous notion. I'd rather see Portland make a run at Dwight in the summer personally.

Hey on a side note, oregonlive claimed that Batum is a UFA, isn't he restricted?

[Yadadimean]

It all depends on whether we feel Dwight can land us a championship this season. Personally I don't think its worth giving up Matthews, Batum, and Whatever else would be required and take on those atrocious contracts to boot. If Dwight bolts and we don't win a title, that mistake would last for a few seasons. I'd say the odds of us winning a title with a lineup of felton-crawford-wallace-aldridge-dwight and hedo/qrich/thomas as our backups is still slim to none. It'd be an exciting team, but to risk any championship potential we might have over the next 5 seasons for this one seems like a ridiculous notion. I'd rather see Portland make a run at Dwight in the summer personally.

Hey on a side note, oregonlive claimed that Batum is a UFA, isn't he restricted?

combine any 3 players on this team and none of em get u closer to a title than dwight alone. how is batum,matthews and whatever else NOT worth the best 5 in the game? none of this is gonna happen, but come on, nobody on this roster is worth hanging onto if it means u lose out on dwight. even LMA is worth it in a straight up deal

[DusterBuster]

combine any 3 players on this team and none of em get u closer to a title than dwight alone. how is batum,matthews and whatever else NOT worth the best 5 in the game? none of this is gonna happen, but come on, nobody on this roster is worth hanging onto if it means u lose out on dwight. even LMA is worth it in a straight up deal

Only if Howard is extended. Aldridge is untouchable in a Howard deal as long as Dwight is un-extended.

[I Rasharted]

[DusterBuster]

I love your name.

[SubyWill]

Batum and fillers for Dwight? Oh my.....

[Wickzki]

For the Magic any Howard deal with the Blazers would begin with LaMarcus Aldridge - an All-Star big man who is locked up for the long-term. Then you would expect that they would demand Batum and others that would dramatically change the face of this franchise.

We simply don't have enough currency to make a workable trade for Dwight.

[I Rasharted]

I love your name.

And I love you.

[PDXKnight]

It all depends on whether we feel Dwight can land us a championship this season. Personally I don't think its worth giving up Matthews, Batum, and Whatever else would be required and take on those atrocious contracts to boot. If Dwight bolts and we don't win a title, that mistake would last for a few seasons. I'd say the odds of us winning a title with a lineup of felton-crawford-wallace-aldridge-dwight and hedo/qrich/thomas as our backups is still slim to none. It'd be an exciting team, but to risk any championship potential we might have over the next 5 seasons for this one seems like a ridiculous notion. I'd rather see Portland make a run at Dwight in the summer personally.

Hey on a side note, oregonlive claimed that Batum is a UFA, isn't he restricted?

combine any 3 players on this team and none of em get u closer to a title than dwight alone. how is batum,matthews and whatever else NOT worth the best 5 in the game? none of this is gonna happen, but come on, nobody on this roster is worth hanging onto if it means u lose out on dwight. even LMA is worth it in a straight up deal

Hahahahahaha. No but really, is that reefer pretty good? You don't trade the only guy on this team worthy of being called ironman (injury wise) and a guy who is an all star caliber player for a guy like Dwight who will CLEARLY bolt after this season. Unless we're sure Dwight will return, no way no how do you trade away a top 10-15 player for a one season rental on a guy like Dwight who's better, yes, but not worth trading a guy like Aldridge for who is locked up for 3 more seasons mind you.

[JasonStern]

I'd rather keep batum than trade him for the older, injury prone, occasional headcase josh howard.

oh, you meant DWIGHT howard. pretty sure orlando can get a ridiculously better offer than nicolas batum.