Why isn't Willie Cauley-Stein getting more minutes?

BleedGreen1989 · Post #1 » by **BleedGreen1989** » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:52 am

Outsider opinion but I've been a big fan of Trill since Kentucky and even drafted him in a couple keeper leagues. I know he's had his finger issues but when I watch WCS, he looks good.

Was reading this article on SB Nation that illustrated it nicely...

http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2016/1/11/10749336/willie-cauley-stein-needs-more-playing-time

Is this on Karl? Willie? Something he's not doing?

Kings2013 · Post #2 » by **Kings2013** » Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:46 am

Statistically WCS has looked good with Cousins, and I think he was drafted ultimately as a compliment to Cousins

This year it's more a numbers crunch. Two of our better players this year are big SFs who can play some at the 4, Rudy and Omri, who have warranted 30+ in addition to Cousins/Koufos down low. Throw in the fact that he's a rookie on a win-now motivated team.

Post #3 » by **City of Trees** » Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:28 am

BleedGreen1989 wrote:Outsider opinion but I've been a big fan of Trill since Kentucky and even drafted him in a couple keeper leagues. I know he's had his finger issues but when I watch WCS, he looks good.

Was reading this article on SB Nation that illustrated it nicely...

http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2016/1/11/10749336/willie-cauley-stein-needs-more-playing-time

Is this on Karl? Willie? Something he's not doing?

Like the article says Karl has always mentioned his conditioning. I will agree he does suck a lot of wind while he's playing, but he seems to be moving freely. You said you watched him at Kentucky, has he always looked dead beat tired while I'm between play? Is that just his way of recouping energy or is this a sign he's out of conditioning ?

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bleeds_purple · Post #4 » by **bleeds_purple** » Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:08 am

Karl underplays McLemore and WCS and overplays Belinelli and Koufos along with giving minutes to Anderson and overplaying double point guard lineups.

It's the same story with Karl and young guys since time immemorial.

Post #5 » by **City of Trees** » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:53 pm

bleeds_purple wrote:
It's the same story with Karl and young guys since time immemorial.

Not exactly. Go talk to life long Nuggets fans and tell them Willie starts, or even plays for that matter. Those fans will tell you that is not the norm with Karl, and they take it as Karl must really like him.

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bleeds_purple · Post #6 » by **bleeds_purple** » Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:59 pm

City of Trees wrote:
bleeds_purple wrote:
It's the same story with Karl and young guys since time immemorial.

Not exactly. Go talk to life long Nuggets fans and tell them Willie starts, or even plays for that matter. Those fans will tell you that is not the norm with Karl, and they take it as Karl must really like him.

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That's a good point. I guess, relatively speaking for Karl, this is playing the young guys a lot.

Post #7 » by **City of Trees** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:35 am

Cauley-Stein once again shines in his limited minutes. Dude just enters the game and does what he does. How Koufus gets more minutes than him is mind boggling

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BleedGreen1989 · Post #8 » by **BleedGreen1989** » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:43 pm

City of Trees wrote:
BleedGreen1989 wrote:Outsider opinion but I've been a big fan of Trill since Kentucky and even drafted him in a couple keeper leagues. I know he's had his finger issues but when I watch WCS, he looks good.

Was reading this article on SB Nation that illustrated it nicely...

http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2016/1/11/10749336/willie-cauley-stein-needs-more-playing-time

Is this on Karl? Willie? Something he's not doing?

Like the article says Karl has always mentioned his conditioning. I will agree he does suck a lot of wind while he's playing, but he seems to be moving freely. You said you watched him at Kentucky, has he always looked dead beat tired while I'm between play? Is that just his way of recouping energy or is this a sign he's out of conditioning ?

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I never recall Willie being out of breath/shape. That could of been because he was so athletically ahead of guys in college he didn't have to "try" as hard as now in the NBA?

I live on the East Coast and unfortunately don't get to watch basketball on the West as much as I'd like but it seems every time he plays (almost), he impacts the game very positively.

Led the team with +12 last night.

Post #9 » by **City of Trees** » Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:05 pm

At the All Star break here is a look at the top rookies Offensive Efficiency

Willie leading the pack. Dude is exactly as advertised.

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benchmobbin02 · Post #10 » by **benchmobbin02** » Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:56 pm

City of Trees wrote:Cauley-Stein once again shines in his limited minutes. Dude just enters the game and does what he does. How Koufus gets more minutes than him is mind boggling

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Koufos doesn't get more mins then WCS.

Post #11 » by **City of Trees** » Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:58 pm

benchmobbin02 wrote:
City of Trees wrote:Cauley-Stein once again shines in his limited minutes. Dude just enters the game and does what he does. How Koufus gets more minutes than him is mind boggling

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Koufos doesn't get more mins then WCS.

That post is almost a month old... And at that time yes he did. Glad things have changed

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benchmobbin02 · Post #12 » by **benchmobbin02** » Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:06 pm

City of Trees wrote:
benchmobbin02 wrote:
City of Trees wrote:Cauley-Stein once again shines in his limited minutes. Dude just enters the game and does what he does. How Koufus gets more minutes than him is mind boggling

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Koufos doesn't get more mins then WCS.

That post is almost a month old... And at that time yes he did. Glad things have changed

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Haha, DANGIT! I didn't even notice date on that. Just read the last few posts after the chart you posted and went to check the stats. My bad

Yeah, Koufos and WCS stat line is almost identical besides WCS shooting 60% and KK shooting 53%. That probably has a lot to do with WCS's amount of above the rim plays.

Johnny Bball · Post #13 » by **Johnny Bball** » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:16 pm

Your best netrtg lineup has WCS in it, instead of Casspri with the starters. I'm not sure that's exactly enough of a sample size to be taken that literally but that's what is working best sometimes.

Post #14 » by **City of Trees** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 6:12 am

I'm just gonna drop this here. 12 pts, reb, 2 steals in 17 minutes.

https://vine.co/v/i6bwvKPO6b5

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bleeds_purple · Post #15 » by **bleeds_purple** » Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:46 pm

Seems like we should have one of Acy/WCS (defense) and one of Cousins/Gay (offense) in the game at all times.

When we don't things go to **** in a hurry.