Top 5 Superstar potential in the Draft

JamesNaismith · Post #21 » by **JamesNaismith** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:03 am

crazybranman360 wrote:1. Anthony Davis
2. Andre Drummond
3. Austin Rivers
4. Royce White
5. Dion Waiters

I don't see how Perry Jones has superstar potential. Superstars need a certain mentality to be great. Perry Jones doesn't have that mentality. He has the mentality of a really good player, but not "superstar"

Hard to state that about Jones and then have Drummond and White on the list...

crazybranman360 · Post #22 » by **crazybranman360** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:48 am

JamesNaismith wrote:
crazybranman360 wrote:1. Anthony Davis
2. Andre Drummond
3. Austin Rivers
4. Royce White
5. Dion Waiters

I don't see how Perry Jones has superstar potential. Superstars need a certain mentality to be great. Perry Jones doesn't have that mentality. He has the mentality of a really good player, but not "superstar"

Hard to state that about Jones and then have Drummond and White on the list...

I don't know enough about Drummond or White to make that statement. Obviously i've heard Drummond passions/competivness been questioned but Whites? I've never heard that

Teffer10 · Post #23 » by **Teffer10** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:56 am

CsBsSoxPhins wrote:I'm surprised I'm the only one to list Royce White so far.

I am too..this guy will be the steal of the draft. Big, strong, aggressive and can handle the ball like a PG...that is very unique.
Denver might take him at 20 if available but I'm hoping Mavs grab him at 17.

tidho · Post #24 » by **tidho** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:06 am

I don't think anyone in this draft is going to be one of the 5 best player in the league during their career. I think a bunch have a chance at being top 15 though.

Davis, Barnes and Drummond have the highest ceilings.
MKG and Beal are as likely to be extremely good as anyone I don't see them as greats.
Jones and Lamb physically are capable.

TayP · Post #25 » by **TayP** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:15 am

1. Andre Drummond
2. Anthony Davis
3. Tony Wroten
4. Perry Jones III
5. Austin RIvers

TayP · Post #26 » by **TayP** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:18 am

pad300 wrote:It's kind of interesting that 4 (out of 8 lists) people so far have mentioned Tony Wroten as having superstar potential (CHA_77_Bobcats, Marlo Stanfield, Curtis Lemansky, and Elmaestro90), and yet he's typically mock-drafted around 25, whereas just about everyone else mentioned is lottery... Do people see him as having a higher bust potential to counteract his perceived higher ceiling?

They say he is so low because is bball IQ is way way lower than Javale McGee and that's

vincecarter4pres · Post #27 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:08 am

ManualRam wrote:i cant even come up with a top 5. this isnt a superstar potential draft.

Same thing I was going to say.

After Davis I don't really see anyone with true superstar potential, but there are a number with star potential. Very real and very likely star potential.

Jeremy Lamb was a guy I was super high on, I know many were, but I've really lowered my expectations.

I still feel he's going to be a very good player, but he was just too passive, not enough leadership intangibles, needs to get to the line more and with every interview of him I watch I cringe a little more.

He sounds dumb. Not completely down south inbred dumb, and not catch 2 DUI's, beat up his girl and get in a shootout in a club dumb, but dumb that even translates to the court some, dumb.

I won't take it too seriously, there are a ton of semi-star and lower level star players that sound like they need to read audio books, but a vast majority of superstars and true stars sound and mainly are intelligent.

A comparison I heard from you and others that I agreed with and used myself was a rich man's Eddie Jones and a rich man's Rip Hamilton, but I've been thinking just Eddie Jones or just plain old Rip Hamilton for awhile now, not a rich man's.

I think the only one that really has that possibility would be maybe Royce White and that still seems like an INCREDIBLE long shot, especially for an undersized 4 that needs the ball to be effective and will likely be drafted in the middle of the first round, late lotto at best.

Wone · Post #28 » by **Wone** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:03 am

easily perry jones number 1.

B-easy · Post #29 » by **B-easy** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:21 am

I think potential is all about things you can't teach, ie height, athleticism etc. Everything else can be taught no matter how difficult it is. So going by that i would say someone like a Tony Wroten or Drummond would have the most potential in this draft.

princeofpalace · Post #30 » by **princeofpalace** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:27 am

ManualRam wrote:i cant even come up with a top 5. this isnt a superstar potential draft.

as for the meyers pick, he might not have superstar potential, but i think he has one of the highest ceilings in this draft

I agree with this.

jangles86 · Post #31 » by **jangles86** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:48 am

1.Drummond
2.Davis
3.Kidd-Gilchrist
4.Pj3
5.Beal

Swift21 · Post #32 » by **Swift21** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:07 pm

lol at Perry Jones being on anyone's superstar list. He's a soft tweener with no motor.

RebelWithACause · Post #33 » by **RebelWithACause** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:17 pm

Swift21 wrote:lol at Perry Jones being on anyone's superstar list. He's a soft tweener with no motor.

Potential dude, he will probably never live up to his potential because of what you mentioned!
So those lists are POTENTIAL Stars, reading properly helps sometimes!

bigboi · Post #34 » by **bigboi** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:35 pm

1. Drummond- if he reaches his ceiling, he will be what Oden was supposed to be
2. Lamb- could be Kevin Durant of SGs
3. Davis- could be great on defense
4. Royce White- could be Diaw 2.0, average maybe 15/10/5
5. Dion Waiters- James Harden esque, could be an excellent SG

fredericklove · Post #35 » by **fredericklove** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:36 pm

1. Davis
2. Drummond
3. PJ3
4. Lamb
5. Renardo Sidney lol

Swift21 · Post #36 » by **Swift21** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:56 pm

ElMaestro90 wrote:
Swift21 wrote:lol at Perry Jones being on anyone's superstar list. He's a soft tweener with no motor.

Potential dude, he will probably never live up to his potential because of what you mentioned!
So those lists are POTENTIAL Stars, reading properly helps sometimes!

He doesn't even have a clear cut position In the nba, let alone superstar Potential.

ManualRam · Post #37 » by **ManualRam** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:07 pm

Swift21 wrote:lol at Perry Jones being on anyone's superstar list. He's a soft tweener with no motor.

you mustve missed the wiretap blurb. he might not have had a motor, but NOW he does!

Marlo Stanfield · Post #38 » by **Marlo Stanfield** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:09 pm

Swift21 wrote:lol at Perry Jones being on anyone's superstar list. He's a soft tweener with no motor.

Do you know what upside is? Perry has tons of it, although he'll never reach it IMO. Lol at anyone without Perry Jones on their potential superstar list.

princeofpalace · Post #39 » by **princeofpalace** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:19 pm

Marlo Stanfield wrote:
Swift21 wrote:lol at Perry Jones being on anyone's superstar list. He's a soft tweener with no motor.

Do you know what upside is? Perry has tons of it, although he'll never reach it IMO. Lol at anyone without Perry Jones on their potential superstar list.

Perry Jones has tons of athleticism. If you think athleticism = upside then ok. But Jones doesn't have a position, he doesn't have a fleshed out skillset and most importantly he has the mentality of a role player. There is nothing about PJIII that screams superstar upside.

RebelWithACause · Post #40 » by **RebelWithACause** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:41 pm

princeofpalace wrote:
Marlo Stanfield wrote:
Swift21 wrote:lol at Perry Jones being on anyone's superstar list. He's a soft tweener with no motor.

Do you know what upside is? Perry has tons of it, although he'll never reach it IMO. Lol at anyone without Perry Jones on their potential superstar list.

Perry Jones has tons of athleticism. If you think athleticism = upside then ok. But Jones doesn't have a position, he doesn't have a fleshed out skillset and most importantly he has the mentality of a role player. There is nothing about PJIII that screams superstar upside.

Most players don't have fleshed out skillsets coming into the league , especially taller guys!
Drummond and Davis are even less skilled and they are attested superstar potential!
The knock of the mentality will probably stop him, not the one lacking a postion!