2013 Sleepers

[noobcake]

To be honest, Ryan Kelly's NBA comparison is Dirk.

Best Case: Borderline All-star version of Dirk.

They take the same garbage mid range jumpers. Doesn't rebound that well for their height. Decently high basketball IQ, nice hustle, high character, mediocre defense.


Worst Case: Poorman's Ryan Anderson.

Article on Kelly's defense.

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketba ... ts-dukes-d

[franktony]

How do you guys like SA drafting Jackie Carmichael with the late 2013 first?

Most Spurs fans are more interested in International prospects with the pick, like Dieng or Mam Jaiteh.

[sunshinekids99]

How do you guys like SA drafting Jackie Carmichael with the late 2013 first?
Most Spurs fans are more interested in International prospects with the pick, like Dieng or Mam Jaiteh.

He's my draft crush at the moment for the Celtics.....now if they can just figure out a way to get rid of Bass. For the Spurs I see him as being a good fit. He's really going to surprise some people his rookie year.

[Klomp]

For those wanting to take a look at Nate Wolters, the Summit League Tournament starts today. The Jacks play tonight at 6, and the game will be on one of the Fox College Sports channels.

[Grits n Gravy]

first time watching him but cory jefferson from baylor is having an incredible first half vs kansas. althete, dunking on people, long, even stepping out and hitting jumpers - even hitting threes, taking charge, showing post movess. looks like jason thompson a bit body wise but more of an athlete. dude is a beast!

[Ruzious]

first time watching him but cory jefferson from baylor is having an incredible first half vs kansas. althete, dunking on people, long, even stepping out and hitting jumpers - even hitting threes, taking charge, showing post movess. looks like jason thompson a bit body wise but more of an athlete. dude is a beast!

I love how he's listed at 210 lbs by espn and draftexpress. My guess is he's 250. On the negative side is - he's a 22 year old junior, but I have him as a late 1st rounder (even before today's impressive performance).

[nickforthreee]

To be honest, Ryan Kelly's NBA comparison is Dirk.

Best Case: Borderline All-star version of Dirk.

They take the same garbage mid range jumpers. Doesn't rebound that well for their height. Decently high basketball IQ, nice hustle, high character, mediocre defense.


Worst Case: Poorman's Ryan Anderson.

LOL. Dirk single handedly led his team to a title taking those "garbage midrange jumpers". and no ryan kelly is no dirk. he would be very lucky to havea ryan anderson type career, i dont see it. i see him being like the current mike miller. spot of shooter who gets 10-15 min a game

[JN]

To be honest, Ryan Kelly's NBA comparison is Dirk.

Best Case: Borderline All-star version of Dirk.

They take the same garbage mid range jumpers. Doesn't rebound that well for their height. Decently high basketball IQ, nice hustle, high character, mediocre defense.


Worst Case: Poorman's Ryan Anderson.

[Andi Obst]

To be honest, Ryan Kelly's NBA comparison is Dirk.

Best Case: Borderline All-star version of Dirk.

They take the same garbage mid range jumpers. Doesn't rebound that well for their height. Decently high basketball IQ, nice hustle, high character, mediocre defense.


Worst Case: Poorman's Ryan Anderson.

[No-Man]

JaKarr Sampson has less physical tools than Harkless, but his upside is high too, can he be a top20 pick this year like Harkless was?

[Cammo101]

To be honest, Ryan Kelly's NBA comparison is Dirk.

Best Case: Borderline All-star version of Dirk.

They take the same garbage mid range jumpers. Doesn't rebound that well for their height. Decently high basketball IQ, nice hustle, high character, mediocre defense.


Worst Case: Poorman's Ryan Anderson.

This was pretty much my exact reaction.

Dirk doesn't get nearly enough credit from the average fan for his skill and athleticism.

[Golabki]

How do you guys like SA drafting Jackie Carmichael with the late 2013 first?
Most Spurs fans are more interested in International prospects with the pick, like Dieng or Mam Jaiteh.

He's my draft crush at the moment for the Celtics.....now if they can just figure out a way to get rid of Bass. For the Spurs I see him as being a good fit. He's really going to surprise some people his rookie year.

Carmichael = yuck.

He's a 23 year-old playing for a 3rd rate school against 4th rate competition. Even against that level of competition he isn't dominating.

He should get drafted because he has an NBA body, is reasonably coordinate and can hit jumpers, but I wouldn't take him in the 1st round.

I wouldn't take him in the first round. Great pick for the Spurs at 59 or 60 though... but of course they use that pick on some random euro dude.

[Curmudgeon]

Spurs will take Leo Westermann in round 2 if he's there, or maybe Dubjevic, the big kid from Montenegro.

IMHO the biggest sleeper in this draft is Giannis Adetokunbo, although he's not much of a sleeper any more since both the Lakers and the Celtics are rumored to have scouted him.

[discord]

That Dirk-Kelley comparison has to be trolling. Literally had a 5 minute laugh fit. RK will be a fringe journeyman in the NBA.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

What do you guys think of Nate Wolters?

One of those "unathletic" players who is more athletic than he appears. I think he can play offense, it's his defense that will be questionable. He's not just a scorer but has good ballhandling and passing skills. I guess if Steve Nash can play despite weak defense, Wolters has a chance. I'd say he could be a taller, little more athletic Luke Ridnour.

If Calderon and Rubio can start and be good NBA PGs, I see no reason why Wojters won't eventually start in the NBA. I think he's possibly the most underrated player on most mock drafts.

[Ruzious]

dez wells-6'5 220-G/F: one of 2 musketeers who i believe have first round potential. he wasnt as heralded as some of his other fellow Word of God alumni, but he's very talented and in a position to be productive with holloway and lyons gone. he's a powerfully built wing with an attacking style. has great body strength and athleticism and will try to dunk on anybody. needs to work on his jumper, but he showed progress last yr, shooting 38% from 3 in low volume.

That's a quote from the first post in the thread. And Wells is finally living up to it. After a rough MD season, Wells has lit it up the last 5 games - averaging 21 points and 6.6 rebounds. And he's finally hitting his 3's with some consistency. He's actually made nearly 60% of his 2's - as he's an excellent mid-range shooter and finishes well on the break - and if Maryland emphasized running more under Turgeon, Wells would have put up better numbers this season. And he can get better. If he hits the 3 consistently, he becomes able to score in pretty much every way. Maryland lists him at 215, but I think he bulked up too much (to play the 3) and looks closer to 230. I think losing 10 lbs would help him with lift around the basket and give him a bit more quicks - and still stay strong enough to out-physical most guards. Some will laugh, but I'd bet on Wells having a better NBA career than teammate Alex Len.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Tony Snell of New Mexico looks pretty intriguing. He's a junior, had a mediocre season, at 12.2 PPG, 2.7 RPG, 2.9 APG, 41%, 37% from 3, but could be a solid role player it seems in the NBA. Good athlete, long arms, really moves EXCEPTIONALLY well off of the ball, I can't say that enough about him. Coached well by Alford.

12-19 3pt FGs in the MWC tourney

[ManualRam]

Tony Snell of New Mexico looks pretty intriguing. He's a junior, had a mediocre season, at 12.2 PPG, 2.7 RPG, 2.9 APG, 41%, 37% from 3, but could be a solid role player it seems in the NBA. Good athlete, long arms, really moves EXCEPTIONALLY well off of the ball, I can't say that enough about him. Coached well by Alford.

11-18 3pt FGs in the MWC tourney

he really needs to fill out and he's already gonna be 22.
good handle and length. streaky shooter who happens to be on a good streak.
super long arms though. could be a near 7' wingspan for a wing.

[PhilasFinest]

Deep sleeper.

Jerrelle Benimon F Towson. Orginally played at Georgetown, Could be a Paul Millsap.

Someone brought his name up and I remembered seeing him vs Drexel this year.
Paul Millsap type player/build. Solid strong frame at 6'8. 5th in the nation in Rebouding and Double Doubles.
Has range on his jumper out to college 3 and can handle the ball a bit too.

[re49gb_2gho32fp]

An inquiry about Ricky Ledo was put forth to Chad Ford whereafter he speculated about possibility of a darkhorse first round pick.

Anyone dares to comment about Ledo? Where is he playing?

he's very skilled offensively with good length for a sg, but his athleticism is just ok. there are questions on how he fits in a team setting, similarly to how people questioned tyreke, but at least ledo can shoot. i had him late first before the season, but his stock was definitely hurt by being ineligible, which put him squarely on the 1st round bubble imo.
given his prep history (no stability and going to multiple schools) it wouldn't surprise me if he made the mistake of declaring early without being guaranteed a 1st rounder.

how he pans out will depend on how he matures in terms of learning the team game and the mental aspects of the game, which a yr of college ball would help him accomplish. he has the skills, but i question his mental makeup and ability to play winning basketball.

Watched some YT highlights recently,
Weighting the pros and cons, one has to assume that any 2nd round pick is worth using on Ledo?
Send to d-league for tutelage for an entire year perhaps