pj_tor wrote:[KWSN-Men wrote:]
Yes you did. You implied that Rubio was a good Euroleague player. Again he is not. He is a good Spanish League player.
Yeah, well, that's like saying Tayshaun Prince is a good NBA player but not a good Olympic Games player.
Give the kid a break. How many Euroleague games has he played? I'm gonna tell you: 21
16 games in 2006-2007: being 16 years old he averaged 3.3 assists and 3.45 steals (stat leader) in 18 mpg. You probably remember that 7 assist 7 steals game against your "beloved" Panathinaikos and a 5 reb 3 ast 7 stl game against Olympiacos. I'm sure you were wondering where on earth had that kid come from. This Euroleague season contributed a lot to his fast increasing hype.
5 games in 2008-2009: played 5 games with just one hand, failing to log more than 10 minutes in 3 of those games. So the stats are irrelevant.
So technically you probably can't say he is a good euroleague player but you certainly can't say the opposite. But you and I don't have the slightest doubt that given consistent playing time on a team that consistently made it to the Euroleague Rubio's stats would be as good as the ones he has on the ACB. Because yes, ACB stats translate pretty well to the Euroleague.
So it's not that he didn't do great in Euroleague (steals leader at 16 is not bad though), it's that playing limited minutes in 21 games he hasn't had the opportunity to show anything. Just to make your point more precise.
And the things people say about Jennings... I truly haven't seen him play, but from what everybody says he didn't perform great on the Italian league, which is not even top 2 in domestic euro leagues. His Euroleague stats are similar I think. But I don't think it's fair to call him a bust or say that the stats are shameful and translate into an NBA bench warmer. Give him a break too, he is a kid playing totally different basketball in a far away country. He will get better, just give him some time before passing judgement on him.
Nope. His team is a small club and it's not even a very good club. It's a mid level ACB club without much money to spend. Put Rubio on a big Euroleague club like PAO, CSKA, Olympiacos and he would barely even get playing time. Also Rubio did not lead the Euroleague in steals. That's another MYTH that has been created by Spanish homers. Prigioni is the official steals leader of the Euroleague in 2007. That is a fact.