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Tomas Satoransky 

Post#1 » by Grits n Gravy » Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:40 am

if you haven't heard of or seen tomas satoransky, he's going to be the next international steal imo. he's a 6'6/6'7 19 year old from czech republic and starting point guard for his team, cajasol, in the acb in spain and in the eurocup(qualifying for euroleague competition). he will project as a point guard/shooting guard who can play some small forward minutes in the nba. he's very althletic(won the acb dunk competition), has very good handles, rebounds well for a guard, good passer and shooter as he is shooting 44% on three's in acb and 52.4% in euro cup competition(3 point line in europe is now close to that in nba). he doesn't have a big role in his team yet but he won't turn 20 until later this year..needs to get stronger, more assertive and improve his shooting in motion but got big potential. i doubt he enters the draft this year but he is someone to keep an eye on. i think he'll be a big steal for someone in the near future.


http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tom ... nsky-5280/ ( 6'7.5 with 38' max vert)

interview --> http://www.fibatv.com/page/fibaeuropeVi ... 38,00.html

there isn't a lot of videos of him but:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LULaZErJAo[/youtube]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI2QwyDzitc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu0c-DQ75Y0#t=12m38s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVGeOFxIsFk (as a 16/17 year old)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wnv1GyuK48 (as a 16/17 year old)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E863U5gOcjM&NR=1 (ha ha)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TebeBXEF8YY


recent article:
http://www.eurocupbasketball.com/ulebcu ... ky-cajasol
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Re: Tomas Satoransky 

Post#2 » by Moooose » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:54 pm

He's currently the best international prospect in the draft, thanks to Fournier's poor showing in the Eurocamp. Do you know about his eligibility? When can he leave Europe?
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Re: Tomas Satoransky 

Post#3 » by Greek » Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:08 pm

What about Papanikolaou? what is the general impression about him?
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Re: Tomas Satoransky 

Post#4 » by teamjosh04 » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:00 am

Fournier is still number one. I actually think hes gonna be off the board for the Bulls at #29, which may allow Satoransky to slide into that spot.
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Post#5 » by ManualRam » Wed Jun 13, 2012 4:23 am

if he's passive in europe do scouts just expect him to turn it on in the NBA?
this guy doesnt really do anything for me.

the euros that im intrigued by in this draft are: fournier, tornike shengelia and jonas zohore bergstedt.

mixed reviews on fournier's performance at eurocamp, but i'll give him the benefit of the doubt as he's still getting over an ankle injury. i dont think he has the characteristics to impress in a 1 on nothing setting because he's not an eye popping athlete and isnt a great shooter. he's more of slasher who uses deception, footwork and leverage to get his shots off.

shengelia plays with the force and aggression needed to not be a pushover in the NBA. he'll need to show more ball skills to be more than a tweener. right now he's aggressive enough to will himself against the opposition.

bergstedt is a bit of a longshot. he's a late bloomer playing lower division spanish ball, but he's a quick study, has touch inside and out, a solid foundation of skill, NBA level agility and mobility for a PF, possible C, plays with good effort on D and he's got the frame to put on more weight. he'll take a few years but i think he'd be a nice draft and stash.
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Re: Tomas Satoransky 

Post#6 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:54 am

Moooose wrote:He's currently the best international prospect in the draft, thanks to Fournier's poor showing in the Eurocamp.

He had a poor showing at the EuroCamp?

In the private workout drills he looks a little slow, awkward, handle a little suspect and herky jerky, but when you see him in game he's fluid and natural with great feel for the game and a good change of direction and speed.
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Re: Tomas Satoransky 

Post#7 » by Moooose » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:05 am

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Moooose wrote:He's currently the best international prospect in the draft, thanks to Fournier's poor showing in the Eurocamp.

He had a poor showing at the EuroCamp?

In the private workout drills he looks a little slow, awkward, handle a little suspect and herky jerky, but when you see him in game he's fluid and natural with great feel for the game and a good change of direction and speed.


You can read the recaps, nbadraft, draftexpress, swishscout just to name a few.

Well, it was the opposite from what i've read. You can always do well in a private workout, it is not as big as a combine or something wherein you get to play with others, with every NBA team's representative watching you. It was his time to show the people he can get higher into the first round but he was a disappointment, as they were saying. Scouts even said he's not worhty of a first-round selection.
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Post#8 » by Moooose » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:14 am

I got as many opinions from NBA scouts on Evan Fournier (for-ne-aye) after the day two as possible, and it was virtually unanimous that he's not a first round talent.


http://www.nbadraft.net/2012-adidas-eurocamp-day-2-recap

He can still, and probably would, be a first round pick based on potential, but i do not see his stock getting any higher.
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Post#9 » by Grits n Gravy » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:34 am

ManualRam wrote:if he's passive in europe do scouts just expect him to turn it on in the NBA?
this guy doesnt really do anything for me.

the euros that im intrigued by in this draft are: fournier, tornike shengelia and jonas zohore bergstedt.

mixed reviews on fournier's performance at eurocamp, but i'll give him the benefit of the doubt as he's still getting over an ankle injury. i dont think he has the characteristics to impress in a 1 on nothing setting because he's not an eye popping athlete and isnt a great shooter. he's more of slasher who uses deception, footwork and leverage to get his shots off.

shengelia plays with the force and aggression needed to not be a pushover in the NBA. he'll need to show more ball skills to be more than a tweener. right now he's aggressive enough to will himself against the opposition.

bergstedt is a bit of a longshot. he's a late bloomer playing lower division spanish ball, but he's a quick study, has touch inside and out, a solid foundation of skill, NBA level agility and mobility for a PF, possible C, plays with good effort on D and he's got the frame to put on more weight. he'll take a few years but i think he'd be a nice draft and stash.

he is passive and needs to be more assertive no question but he wasn't given an ideal role at sevilla. many players are better nba players than european players which i definitely think will be the case with tomas. even one of the quickest players in world in ty lawson struggled in a vastly inferior league. satoransky has a much more nba friendly game and he will be spending a large amount of time at the point in the nba where being passive will probably be required of him at least initially. imo his floor is a taller(slightly), more athletic greivis vasuez. i think if he goes to the right team and is managed properly i think he can be developed into an evan turner like player with 3 point range.
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Re: Tomas Satoransky 

Post#10 » by vincecarter4pres » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:43 am

Moooose wrote:
I got as many opinions from NBA scouts on Evan Fournier (for-ne-aye) after the day two as possible, and it was virtually unanimous that he's not a first round talent.


http://www.nbadraft.net/2012-adidas-eurocamp-day-2-recap

He can still, and probably would, be a first round pick based on potential, but i do not see his stock getting any higher.


http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Evan-Fournier-5719/

Evan Fournier competed today after working out in a one-on-zero setting for the scouts in attendance yesterday, and helped himself considerably more in turn. In 29 minutes of action, Fournier scored 12 points, looking smooth creating his own shot on the perimeter and making plays being aggressive in transition while showing good court vision finding the open man. The top 2012 draft prospect at this event, Fournier shot well today, going 2-4 from three in the first game and 2-3 in the second game, which was extremely important considering that this is the area he struggled in most this season. Had he shot a better percentage from beyond the arc with Poiters this season, its reasonable to wonder if he would be considered a legit top-20 prospect in this deep draft.

He will leave tomorrow for the United State for workouts with Indiana, Memphis, and Dallas. We caught up with Fournier, who emphasized his desire to play in the NBA this coming season, after he led the French U20 team to a victory over Russia's U20 squad.


Honestly I have no vested interest in Fournier what so ever and don't know what I think of him from the very limited amount I've seen him play outside youtube videos and you and Smith may very well be right, but that is the first heavily negative article I've read.
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