E-Balla wrote:ManualRam wrote:E-Balla wrote:In college he gets to where he wants to go. In the NBA starting points are amazingly fast on most teams or they're big. You couldn't name me one decent point that isn't at least bigger than Tyus or faster. Love the kid but to me he's a fringe top 10 pick.
in the NBA they'll run even more PnR than they do in college. not just ball screens, legit 2 man PnR which tyus is already proficient at.
furthermore, its not about how fast a player is, its how the player reacts on the move. if a player gets by his man, gets downhill off a secondary break or off a ball screen, he STILL will likely encounter a help defender or 2. is he still a triple threat on the move? can he make split decisions on the move? can he react properly and have the vision/coordination to make the proper play? is he a threat to score en route to the bucket? tyus is threat to pull up, he has a floater game with either hand, actually has a flopping game already and he drives to pass. countless times each game he beats his man en route to making a play because A: he's got excellent change of speed/direction. knows how to get his man leaning B: he's a threat to shoot from deep off the dribble, so he has to be played honestly C: when he gets a step on his man he knows how to maintain his advantage by angling into the defender. D: he knows how to properly set up and use ball screens.
i heard the same criticism of him coming out of HS and i never got it. he's fast in the open floor, even faster when you taking into account his hit ahead passes and was an excellent 1 on 1 player. you cant be an excellent 1 on 1 player at his size without quickness. its not like he was just bullying defenders at his size, even against HS comp.
In the open court Tyus is not fast for a 6-1 PG. When I'm saying he's slow I'm comparing him to 6-1 PGs like Chris Paul, Mike Conley, Ray Felton, Brandon Jennings, etc. and yes he his slow compared to most NBA guards his size. TO me that's an issue he will probably struggle majorly to overcome defensively. Offensively I do think he will be a good player but defensively I don't see him being great.
And his floater game isn't that good yet. Tyus' biggest strengths scoring the ball are his jumper and his ability to get to the line and make freethrows. His ability to do everything else is iffy to me. I hope I'm wrong but I really do not see what you see out there.
yep i definitely disagree, especially about his speed in the open floor. i don't think he's slow at all, by any comparison. i'd have no concerns about him at all handling the ball in transition. i know i keep coming back to this aspect, but his hit ahead passes are the best i've seen since...idk, kidd. if you're flanking him all you have to do is run hard, keep your head on a swivel and he'll get you the ball.
his floater game is good too. he's had that in his game dating to back when i saw him as a freshman in HS. what i also noticed about his floater game over the years is that he can use either hand to shoot that shot. he actually hasnt been drawing fouls at a great rate but as i mentioned, he's more of a guy who drives to pass. he does know how to sell contact though. just watch how often he whips his head back a la harden/cp3 on drives, so there is that cleverness/manipulation in his game.
