Fischella wrote:Comparing Anderson with Winslow is like comparing PJ Tucker with Butler or Leonard.
All that is essentially saying is one guy can create his own shot and the other can't. Not a big deal when guys are projected about 15 picks apart.
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Fischella wrote:Comparing Anderson with Winslow is like comparing PJ Tucker with Butler or Leonard.
Zordor wrote:djthesonicsfan wrote:Here's a question that perhaps some of you east coast guys could answer. How would you specifically compare Anderson to Winslow considering such factors as size, athleticism, length, motor, bball IQ, passion for the game, coachability, shooting, handle, creating for others, leadership, mental toughness, age and anything else you think is notable?
Winslow is the better player, there is a chance he could be a poor man's lebron in the long term, that being said, he has some deficiencies he got exposed at the combine and is definitely going to have to step his game up at the NBA level. That being said, watching both Duke and UVA play a lot, Winslow is the reason I have always thought Okafor was a bit overrated (still a top 5-10 talent, just overrated) I could see Winslow slipping in the draft a bit, but I feel like he was the true lifeblood behind the duke team this year.
Anderson is different, he is a guy who was highly touted out of highschool, got to UVA and rather flopped his first season because of ego, so playing behind Joe Harris the first 2 seasons he had to learn humility, teamwork and BBIQ, but Anderson still has that ability he had out of highschool, just without the ego and he has sharpened his skills.
Both Players will end up most likely going lower than their talent level, but:
Team player: advantage Anderson
Ball handling: advantage Winslow
Team Defense: advantage Anderson
1 on 1 Defense: advantage Winslow
Athleticism: some will disagree but I say its equal
Shooting: advantage Winslow
Potential: Advantage Winslow
BBIQ: Advantage Anderson
Ego: bout Equal
Age: Doesnt really matter
Injury Concerns: Advantage Winslow
Coachability: advantage Anderson
Creating for others: Actually have to say Winslow, like I said, I think he made Okafor a top 1-2 guy
Leadership: I think Winslow can be called to lead if he is the best guy on the team but I have to give it to Anderson who can be a great leader in the starting unit or off the bench even if he isnt the best player on the team.
Basically Anderson and Winslow are 2 different types of players, Winslow can be a complimentary piece on a good team as we saw with Okafor, but I believe he thrives as the #1 option and can play at an All Star Level on any team, Anderson is a guy who is great within the team concept and a good #3rd option or even 6th man, if he is on a bad team or gets very little playing time, he is not going to do well, but if he gets a team who have good supporting pieces or a superstar and he is given ample minutes, he could easily be a legit x factor on a team, but probably not an all star
E-Balla wrote:Zordor wrote:djthesonicsfan wrote:Here's a question that perhaps some of you east coast guys could answer. How would you specifically compare Anderson to Winslow considering such factors as size, athleticism, length, motor, bball IQ, passion for the game, coachability, shooting, handle, creating for others, leadership, mental toughness, age and anything else you think is notable?
Winslow is the better player, there is a chance he could be a poor man's lebron in the long term, that being said, he has some deficiencies he got exposed at the combine and is definitely going to have to step his game up at the NBA level. That being said, watching both Duke and UVA play a lot, Winslow is the reason I have always thought Okafor was a bit overrated (still a top 5-10 talent, just overrated) I could see Winslow slipping in the draft a bit, but I feel like he was the true lifeblood behind the duke team this year.
Anderson is different, he is a guy who was highly touted out of highschool, got to UVA and rather flopped his first season because of ego, so playing behind Joe Harris the first 2 seasons he had to learn humility, teamwork and BBIQ, but Anderson still has that ability he had out of highschool, just without the ego and he has sharpened his skills.
Both Players will end up most likely going lower than their talent level, but:
Team player: advantage Anderson
Ball handling: advantage Winslow
Team Defense: advantage Anderson
1 on 1 Defense: advantage Winslow
Athleticism: some will disagree but I say its equal
Shooting: advantage Winslow
Potential: Advantage Winslow
BBIQ: Advantage Anderson
Ego: bout Equal
Age: Doesnt really matter
Injury Concerns: Advantage Winslow
Coachability: advantage Anderson
Creating for others: Actually have to say Winslow, like I said, I think he made Okafor a top 1-2 guy
Leadership: I think Winslow can be called to lead if he is the best guy on the team but I have to give it to Anderson who can be a great leader in the starting unit or off the bench even if he isnt the best player on the team.
Basically Anderson and Winslow are 2 different types of players, Winslow can be a complimentary piece on a good team as we saw with Okafor, but I believe he thrives as the #1 option and can play at an All Star Level on any team, Anderson is a guy who is great within the team concept and a good #3rd option or even 6th man, if he is on a bad team or gets very little playing time, he is not going to do well, but if he gets a team who have good supporting pieces or a superstar and he is given ample minutes, he could easily be a legit x factor on a team, but probably not an all star
Yeah this is pretty far off. I get that you like Winslow but he wasn't even the 3rd option at Duke and he was under Quinn, Tyus, and Jahlil in minutes and role. How can you say with a straight face that he was the lifeblood behind the team?
Zordor wrote:E-Balla wrote:Zordor wrote:
Winslow is the better player, there is a chance he could be a poor man's lebron in the long term, that being said, he has some deficiencies he got exposed at the combine and is definitely going to have to step his game up at the NBA level. That being said, watching both Duke and UVA play a lot, Winslow is the reason I have always thought Okafor was a bit overrated (still a top 5-10 talent, just overrated) I could see Winslow slipping in the draft a bit, but I feel like he was the true lifeblood behind the duke team this year.
Anderson is different, he is a guy who was highly touted out of highschool, got to UVA and rather flopped his first season because of ego, so playing behind Joe Harris the first 2 seasons he had to learn humility, teamwork and BBIQ, but Anderson still has that ability he had out of highschool, just without the ego and he has sharpened his skills.
Both Players will end up most likely going lower than their talent level, but:
Team player: advantage Anderson
Ball handling: advantage Winslow
Team Defense: advantage Anderson
1 on 1 Defense: advantage Winslow
Athleticism: some will disagree but I say its equal
Shooting: advantage Winslow
Potential: Advantage Winslow
BBIQ: Advantage Anderson
Ego: bout Equal
Age: Doesnt really matter
Injury Concerns: Advantage Winslow
Coachability: advantage Anderson
Creating for others: Actually have to say Winslow, like I said, I think he made Okafor a top 1-2 guy
Leadership: I think Winslow can be called to lead if he is the best guy on the team but I have to give it to Anderson who can be a great leader in the starting unit or off the bench even if he isnt the best player on the team.
Basically Anderson and Winslow are 2 different types of players, Winslow can be a complimentary piece on a good team as we saw with Okafor, but I believe he thrives as the #1 option and can play at an All Star Level on any team, Anderson is a guy who is great within the team concept and a good #3rd option or even 6th man, if he is on a bad team or gets very little playing time, he is not going to do well, but if he gets a team who have good supporting pieces or a superstar and he is given ample minutes, he could easily be a legit x factor on a team, but probably not an all star
Yeah this is pretty far off. I get that you like Winslow but he wasn't even the 3rd option at Duke and he was under Quinn, Tyus, and Jahlil in minutes and role. How can you say with a straight face that he was the lifeblood behind the team?
I am actually a UVA fan as college basketball goes and am not very high on Winslow at all, but I have to concede just what I saw when I watched him. As for far off, maybe the first year in the league I think they might each contribute about the same to whatever team they end up on, but I think Winslow will have a definite late bloomer effect, I dont know that I would put him on the level of Jabari Parker (even though Jabari did get hurt) , but I would put him fairly close.
165bows wrote:Anderson showing a little spunk in the Celtics workout today. Stated that Dekker was supposed to be there then backed out, and also said he didn't need to be 'hid' on offense like some of the other guys at the workout (which included RHJ and Brandon Dawson).
Gotta like a little trash talk.
J_Ray wrote:165bows wrote:Anderson showing a little spunk in the Celtics workout today. Stated that Dekker was supposed to be there then backed out, and also said he didn't need to be 'hid' on offense like some of the other guys at the workout (which included RHJ and Brandon Dawson).
Gotta like a little trash talk.
Anderson is workout warrior type, I wouldn't want to risk my stock facing him either. Smart move by Dekker. I think Anderson and RHJ have been working out together at Impact, so I'm sure they've gotten to know each other's game quite well.
Jajwanda wrote:He has the ability to shoot off of screens. That's very different than your average 3 and D guy who sits in a corner. He's a perfect off-ball SF for this era. I'd be shocked if the Lakers don't do everything they can to get him since he's such an ideal fit with the rest of their young guys.
mademan wrote:Jajwanda wrote:He has the ability to shoot off of screens. That's very different than your average 3 and D guy who sits in a corner. He's a perfect off-ball SF for this era. I'd be shocked if the Lakers don't do everything they can to get him since he's such an ideal fit with the rest of their young guys.
He's a high character 3+D player who's likely capable of contributing right now. A lot of contenders drafting in the 20's (where he'll prolly go) are gonna love him (CLE/CHI/MEM/SAS). I dont think he'll fall to 27
Chuck Everett wrote:Anderson is going to be a colossal bust. Once NBA games starts, all anyone's going to ask is why can't he dribble a basketball.
Fischella wrote:Muhammad is terrific on the block for his size, he has great lower body strength and tremendous instincts downlow.
McLemore has an amazing stroke, natural floor game, he floats, he is much more fluid offensively than Anderson, even though he is still kind of clumsy with the ball.