Rank Your Non-Lotto Bigs

Post #1 » by **yosemiteben** » Mon May 23, 2016 7:58 pm

Let's assume the following bigs are off the board:

Bender
Skal
Davis
Poeltl
Chriss
Ellenson

What would be your top 6 options among the following guys:

Sabonis
Jones
Zubac
Zizic
Diallo
Qi
Hernangomez
Cornelie
Johnson
Stone
Yabusele
Zimmerman
Onuaku
Maker
Hammons

doordoor123 · Post #2 » by **doordoor123** » Mon May 23, 2016 8:06 pm

In terms of where they should be drafted? Where I think they should be drafted? Their ceiling? How good their skills are?

Post #3 » by **BigSlam** » Mon May 23, 2016 8:49 pm

Hammons
Jones
Diallo
Stone
Qi
Zimmerman

Post #4 » by **yosemiteben** » Mon May 23, 2016 9:12 pm

doordoor123 wrote:In terms of where they should be drafted? Where I think they should be drafted? Their ceiling? How good their skills are?

Not so much where they should be drafted, but more who you would pick if you wanted to get value for your pick.

RationalGaze · Post #5 » by **RationalGaze** » Mon May 23, 2016 9:43 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Let's assume the following bigs are off the board:

Bender
Skal
Davis
Poeltl
Chriss
Ellenson

What would be your top 6 options among the following guys:

Sabonis
Jones
Zubac
Zizic
Diallo
Qi
Hernangomez
Cornelie
Johnson
Stone
Yabusele
Zimmerman
Onuaku
Maker
Hammons

Zubac
Zizic
Henangomez
Cornelie
Yabusele
Sabonis

Coeur · Post #6 » by **Coeur** » Mon May 23, 2016 10:33 pm

Is there no Papagiannes?

doordoor123 · Post #7 » by **doordoor123** » Mon May 23, 2016 11:47 pm

1. Thon Maker
2. Cheick Diallo
3. Zhou Qi (if he works out)
4. Damian Jones
5. AJ Hammons
6. Guerschon Yabusele
7. Ivica Zubac
8. Ante Zizic
9. Domantas Sabonis
10. Chinanu Onuaku
11. Brice Johnson
12. Juan Hernangomez
13. Petr Cornelie
14. Diamond Stone
15. Stephen ZImmerman

Post #8 » by **GimmeDat** » Tue May 24, 2016 9:48 am

I know you said Top 6 but I'm going to go ahead and rank all the ones listed -

Zubac
Sabonis
Zizic
Diallo
Onuaku
Jones
Maker
Stone
Qi
Yabusele
Hernangomez
Hammons
Johnson
Zimmerman
Cornelie

To be honest, they're all good prospects. it's hard to rank them.

franckyvinvin12 · Post #9 » by **franckyvinvin12** » Tue May 24, 2016 12:47 pm

GimmeDat wrote:I know you said Top 6 but I'm going to go ahead and rank all the ones listed -

Zubac
Sabonis
Zizic
Diallo
Onuaku
Jones
Maker
Stone
Qi
Yabusele
Hernangomez
Hammons
Johnson
Zimmerman
Cornelie

To be honest, they're all good prospects. it's hard to rank them.

I like your rankings. I would just have Maker a bit lower and Cornelie higher, the way I see it they're fairly similar, Cornelie being more advanced and therefore less likely to bust. They should be close in the ranking imo.

Not sure about Diallo either, I guess Biyombo playing well in the playoffs helps his stock, but what's the difference between Diallo and Cliff Alexander last year ?

Post #10 » by **GimmeDat** » Tue May 24, 2016 1:21 pm

franckyvinvin12 wrote:
GimmeDat wrote:I know you said Top 6 but I'm going to go ahead and rank all the ones listed -

Zubac
Sabonis
Zizic
Diallo
Onuaku
Jones
Maker
Stone
Qi
Yabusele
Hernangomez
Hammons
Johnson
Zimmerman
Cornelie

To be honest, they're all good prospects. it's hard to rank them.

I like your rankings. I would just have Maker a bit lower and Cornelie higher, the way I see it they're fairly similar, Cornelie being more advanced and therefore less likely to bust. They should be close in the ranking imo.

Not sure about Diallo either, I guess Biyombo playing well in the playoffs helps his stock, but what's the difference between Diallo and Cliff Alexander last year ?

Yeah, those last few were hard. I do really like Cornelie so it felt weird putting him last. I had to give Maker the benefit of the doubt on his potential because I'm an Aussie

As for Alexander and Diallo, I never really saw much of Alexander in college, but it seems to me like the main differences are that Alexander had a poor IQ and never showed much on the defensive end despite his physical tools, and Diallo's a much better rim runner and overall athlete (Alexander obviously had a good frame and could get up). Diallo's better movement as a big also helps his defensive ability.

I will say, I was a bit surprised Alexander went completely undrafted, I do think in time he could potentially find a niche in the league as an athletic rebounder type, but he's got a ways to go.

Being undersized guys (albeit with good wingspans and athleticism), it's hard to find a role in the NBA, especially if you don't stretch the floor or have any guard like qualities. The aforementioned differences are the difference between being an undersized PF, in the case of Alexander, and an effectively small ball 5, in the case of Diallo.

Diallo's super active, a tenacious player who can make a real difference of the defensive end, has a great attitude and room to grow. I think at worst he's a great energy big.

franckyvinvin12 · Post #11 » by **franckyvinvin12** » Tue May 24, 2016 1:44 pm

Ok, I'll try to watch more footage of Diallo. I don't really like undersized bigs, but sometimes it works I guess.

GopherIt! · Post #12 » by **GopherIt!** » Tue May 24, 2016 1:47 pm

I like Diallo too and Sabonis. Really hoping Minny gets one of those two guys.

Moooose · Post #13 » by **Moooose** » Tue May 24, 2016 3:31 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Let's assume the following bigs are off the board:

Bender
Skal
Davis
Poeltl
Chriss
Ellenson

What would be your top 6 options among the following guys:

Sabonis
Jones
Zubac
Zizic
Diallo
Qi
Hernangomez
Cornelie
Johnson
Stone
Yabusele
Zimmerman
Onuaku
Maker
Hammons

My next five would be:

Thon Maker
Domantas Sabonis
Brice Johnson
Yabusele
Zimmerman

FreakMaster · Post #14 » by **FreakMaster** » Wed May 25, 2016 1:19 am

1) AJ Hammons
2) Damian Jones
3) Diamond Stone
4) Sabonis
5) Cheick Diallo
6) Zhou Qi
7) Henry Ellenson