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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#581 » by Big J » Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:17 am

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JustBuzzin wrote:Dude is massive he can easily dominate a kids game.

Going against top tier athletes and more mobile bigs will be my concern. I can easily see teams playing him off the court just because he's not the fastest/mobile big.


People will bring up Jokic, but Jokic has actual skills ball handling, mid range, 3pt range, post game, vision. Edey doesn't have that type of skillset.


He’s being guarded by 6’8 dudes lol. Can’t wait til he busts


LMAO... Yall don't realize how big Edey is if you think he will run into anyone bigger than he is in the NBA. Most of the guys you think of as 7 footers are really like 6'10'' without shoes.

Andre Drummond, Miles Turner are some examples of guys who are in the 6'10" range without shoes.

Gobert one of the biggest guys in the league is 7'0.5'' without shoes.

Edey is 7'3.5'' without shoes. He is a big 7'4'' in shoes.

The difference in a 7 foot guy and a 7'4'' guy is the same as the difference between a 6'8'' guy and a 7' guy.

Edey has seen plenty of guys with size trying to guard him in college. Not one single person has been able to stop him. He leads the nation in scoring despite seeing double and triple teams every night. Every defense that plays Purdue is focused on stopping Edey. He gets everybody's best shot every time he laces them up.


The difference is that in the NBA nobody will focus on stopping him. Opposing teams will want him on the floor as much as possible because he won't be able to guard anyone.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#582 » by GoBobs » Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:31 am

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He’s being guarded by 6’8 dudes lol. Can’t wait til he busts


LMAO... Yall don't realize how big Edey is if you think he will run into anyone bigger than he is in the NBA. Most of the guys you think of as 7 footers are really like 6'10'' without shoes.

Andre Drummond, Miles Turner are some examples of guys who are in the 6'10" range without shoes.

Gobert one of the biggest guys in the league is 7'0.5'' without shoes.

Edey is 7'3.5'' without shoes. He is a big 7'4'' in shoes.

The difference in a 7 foot guy and a 7'4'' guy is the same as the difference between a 6'8'' guy and a 7' guy.

Edey has seen plenty of guys with size trying to guard him in college. Not one single person has been able to stop him. He leads the nation in scoring despite seeing double and triple teams every night. Every defense that plays Purdue is focused on stopping Edey. He gets everybody's best shot every time he laces them up.


The difference is that in the NBA nobody will focus on stopping him. Opposing teams will want him on the floor as much as possible because he won't be able to guard anyone.


Here is a list of NBA stars that can't guard

Trae Young
Joker
Luka
Sengun
Sabonis
Lauri M.

If defense didn't stop these guys from being stars what makes you think it can stop Edey?
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Post#583 » by GoBobs » Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:34 am

Also...

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Gobert (played off the floor in the playoffs)
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#584 » by CptCrunch » Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:49 am

Ignoring all questions about defense; there seems to be some new delusion going on around Edey being unstoppable on offense. He isn't even an all-time offensive player in college. Somehow he is just gonna score on people being bigger than anyone else.

Have you forgotten about late career Yao Ming? Who was at least 5x as skilled as Edey, even taller and more mobile at the same time. The struggles of Yao. Oh, where is college post maestro Timme right now?
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#585 » by ItsDanger » Sat Mar 30, 2024 2:56 am

Yao Ming wasn't as mobile as Edey. He was more skilled, especially with his face up game.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#586 » by HadAnEffectHere » Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:01 am

CptCrunch wrote:Ignoring all questions about defense; there seems to be some new delusion going on around Edey being unstoppable on offense. He isn't even an all-time offensive player in college. Somehow he is just gonna score on people being bigger than anyone else.

Have you forgotten about late career Yao Ming? Who was at least 5x as skilled as Edey, even taller and more mobile at the same time. The struggles of Yao. Oh, where is college post maestro Timme right now?


.... Edey is 2nd in Offensive Box Plus/Minus since it started being tracked 14 years ago (Zion is #1) (list hasn't updated as his season isn't over yet)

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/leaders/men/obpm-player-season.html

Edey would also be... 4th on the list for his Junior season and would be 9th on the list for his Sophomore season.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/zach-edey-1.html

11.0, 12.5, 13.1 is pretty dominant, idk.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#587 » by GoBobs » Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:03 am

CptCrunch wrote:Ignoring all questions about defense; there seems to be some new delusion going on around Edey being unstoppable on offense. He isn't even an all-time offensive player in college. Somehow he is just gonna score on people being bigger than anyone else.

Have you forgotten about late career Yao Ming? Who was at least 5x as skilled as Edey, even taller and more mobile at the same time. The struggles of Yao. Oh, where is college post maestro Timme right now?


Yao's career was ended by injury. If 22 year old Yao was in the draft he would be a consensus number 1 pick. He was a star in the NBA.

Drew Timme was 6'8.75'' without shoes. Edey is 7'3.5'' without shoes. I hope you can see the difference there without me having to explain it.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#588 » by TheSuzerain » Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:04 am

CptCrunch wrote:Ignoring all questions about defense; there seems to be some new delusion going on around Edey being unstoppable on offense. He isn't even an all-time offensive player in college. Somehow he is just gonna score on people being bigger than anyone else.

Have you forgotten about late career Yao Ming? Who was at least 5x as skilled as Edey, even taller and more mobile at the same time. The struggles of Yao. Oh, where is college post maestro Timme right now?

He absolutely is an all time offensive force in college. Insane to say otherwise.

There are critiques of Edey. But this is just idiotic.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#589 » by Big J » Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:07 am

Forget Yao Ming. Hypothetically if James Wiseman was still playing at Memphis you guys don’t think he’d be 5x as dominant as Edey? He is 10x more athletic than him. He absolutely destroyed the G League, and he can barely get off the bench for the worst team in the NBA.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#590 » by TheSuzerain » Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:11 am

Big J wrote:Forget Yao Ming. Hypothetically if James Wiseman was still playing at Memphis you guys don’t think he’d be 5x as dominant as Edey? He is 10x more athletic than him. He absolutely destroyed the G League, and he can barely get off the bench for the worst team in the NBA.

No. Zero IQ. Bad motor.
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Post#591 » by GoBobs » Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:11 am

Big J wrote:Forget Yao Ming. Hypothetically if James Wiseman was still playing at Memphis you guys don’t think he’d be 5x as dominant as Edey? He is 10x more athletic than him. He absolutely destroyed the G League, and he can barely get off the bench for the worst team in the NBA.


Oh... please tell us what Wiseman did in the G-League that you think was so special. What are Wiseman G League stats that you are so high on?
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#592 » by CptCrunch » Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:14 am

Ok for all the Edey fan club posters, those who think of him as an all-time great offensive player. Put your name on the list. State where in the top 10 you want to draft Edey; don't give me this cop out answer of Edey shouldn't go lottery because based on the way you guys fluff up his offense and defense, it would actually be weird for him to not go #1.

We'll bookmark and bump this in 3 years.

Edey to me is the most undraftable, unplayable prospect with a huge fan club. Beyond polarizing and likely not a NBA player.
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Post#593 » by GoBobs » Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:22 am

CptCrunch wrote:Ok for all the Edey fan club posters, those who think of him as an all-time great offensive player. Put your name on the list. State where in the top 10 you want to draft Edey; don't give me this cop out answer of Edey shouldn't go lottery because based on the way you guys fluff up his offense and defense, it would actually be weird for him to not go #1.

We'll bookmark and bump this in 3 years.

Edey to me is the most undraftable, unplayable prospect with a huge fan club. Beyond polarizing and likely not a NBA player.


Lol... It is pretty obvious a lot of the trolls in here are just alt accounts of the same person
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#594 » by Big J » Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:29 am

TheSuzerain wrote:
Big J wrote:Forget Yao Ming. Hypothetically if James Wiseman was still playing at Memphis you guys don’t think he’d be 5x as dominant as Edey? He is 10x more athletic than him. He absolutely destroyed the G League, and he can barely get off the bench for the worst team in the NBA.

No. Zero IQ. Bad motor.


Wiseman actually has a good motor. He just sucks ass on defense, and yea he’s got a low BBIQ… just like Edey.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#595 » by JustBuzzin » Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:36 am

GoBobs wrote:
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JustBuzzin wrote:Dude is massive he can easily dominate a kids game.

Going against top tier athletes and more mobile bigs will be my concern. I can easily see teams playing him off the court just because he's not the fastest/mobile big.


People will bring up Jokic, but Jokic has actual skills ball handling, mid range, 3pt range, post game, vision. Edey doesn't have that type of skillset.


He’s being guarded by 6’8 dudes lol. Can’t wait til he busts


LMAO... Yall don't realize how big Edey is if you think he will run into anyone bigger than he is in the NBA. Most of the guys you think of as 7 footers are really like 6'10'' without shoes.

Andre Drummond, Miles Turner are some examples of guys who are in the 6'10" range without shoes.

Gobert one of the biggest guys in the league is 7'0.5'' without shoes.

Edey is 7'3.5'' without shoes. He is a big 7'4'' in shoes.

The difference in a 7 foot guy and a 7'4'' guy is the same as the difference between a 6'8'' guy and a 7' guy.

Edey has seen plenty of guys with size trying to guard him in college. Not one single person has been able to stop him. He leads the nation in scoring despite seeing double and triple teams every night. Every defense that plays Purdue is focused on stopping Edey. He gets everybody's best shot every time he laces them up.

College is not the NBA.

Timme was a great college player, his game however didn't translate to the next level.

It's pretty obvious to see that Edey will have trouble adjusting to the fast pace of the NBA. And these aren't regular college players. These are guys who jump higher and are much quicker than the players Edey has faced.

I'm 100% confident that Edey will be nothing more than a role player at the next level. If im wrong I will gladly eat crow. Dude would have been the #1 pick 20 years ago. Unfortunately for him the game has changed. There are no longer pure post up centers. You have to be versatile to play center.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#596 » by GoBobs » Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:36 am

Big J wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:
Big J wrote:Forget Yao Ming. Hypothetically if James Wiseman was still playing at Memphis you guys don’t think he’d be 5x as dominant as Edey? He is 10x more athletic than him. He absolutely destroyed the G League, and he can barely get off the bench for the worst team in the NBA.

No. Zero IQ. Bad motor.


Wiseman actually has a good motor. He just sucks ass on defense, and yea he’s got a low BBIQ… just like Edey.


Oh Edey is low BBIQ now....? Okay...... :crazy:

You have any evidence of that or just making more stuff up?
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#597 » by GoBobs » Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:37 am

JustBuzzin wrote:
GoBobs wrote:
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He’s being guarded by 6’8 dudes lol. Can’t wait til he busts


LMAO... Yall don't realize how big Edey is if you think he will run into anyone bigger than he is in the NBA. Most of the guys you think of as 7 footers are really like 6'10'' without shoes.

Andre Drummond, Miles Turner are some examples of guys who are in the 6'10" range without shoes.

Gobert one of the biggest guys in the league is 7'0.5'' without shoes.

Edey is 7'3.5'' without shoes. He is a big 7'4'' in shoes.

The difference in a 7 foot guy and a 7'4'' guy is the same as the difference between a 6'8'' guy and a 7' guy.

Edey has seen plenty of guys with size trying to guard him in college. Not one single person has been able to stop him. He leads the nation in scoring despite seeing double and triple teams every night. Every defense that plays Purdue is focused on stopping Edey. He gets everybody's best shot every time he laces them up.

College is not the NBA.

Timme was a great college player, his game however didn't translate to the next level.

It's pretty obvious to see that Edey will have trouble adjusting to the fast pace of the NBA. And these aren't regular college players. These are guys who jump higher and are much quicker than the players Edey has faced.

I'm 100% confident that Edey will be nothing more than a role player at the next level. If im wrong I will gladly eat crow. Dude would have been the #1 pick 20 years ago. Unfortunately for him the game has changed. There are no longer pure post up centers. You have to be versatile to play center.


Timme was 6'10'', Edey is 7'4", what part of that do you not understand?
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#598 » by JustBuzzin » Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:44 am

GoBobs wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:
GoBobs wrote:
LMAO... Yall don't realize how big Edey is if you think he will run into anyone bigger than he is in the NBA. Most of the guys you think of as 7 footers are really like 6'10'' without shoes.

Andre Drummond, Miles Turner are some examples of guys who are in the 6'10" range without shoes.

Gobert one of the biggest guys in the league is 7'0.5'' without shoes.

Edey is 7'3.5'' without shoes. He is a big 7'4'' in shoes.

The difference in a 7 foot guy and a 7'4'' guy is the same as the difference between a 6'8'' guy and a 7' guy.

Edey has seen plenty of guys with size trying to guard him in college. Not one single person has been able to stop him. He leads the nation in scoring despite seeing double and triple teams every night. Every defense that plays Purdue is focused on stopping Edey. He gets everybody's best shot every time he laces them up.

College is not the NBA.

Timme was a great college player, his game however didn't translate to the next level.

It's pretty obvious to see that Edey will have trouble adjusting to the fast pace of the NBA. And these aren't regular college players. These are guys who jump higher and are much quicker than the players Edey has faced.

I'm 100% confident that Edey will be nothing more than a role player at the next level. If im wrong I will gladly eat crow. Dude would have been the #1 pick 20 years ago. Unfortunately for him the game has changed. There are no longer pure post up centers. You have to be versatile to play center.


Timme was 6'10'', Edey is 7'4", what part of that do you not understand?

My goodness dude did you listen to anything I posted?

I used Timme as an example of a great college player who's game didn't translate to the next level. Height has nothing to do with being great at the next level.

Edey will have trouble playing 30 minutes a night just because of his lack of mobility and his quickness on defense. If you don't understand that then there is no need for you to keep debating people. There is more to basketball than being tall.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#599 » by Big J » Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:46 am

GoBobs wrote:
Big J wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:No. Zero IQ. Bad motor.


Wiseman actually has a good motor. He just sucks ass on defense, and yea he’s got a low BBIQ… just like Edey.


Oh Edey is low BBIQ now....? Okay...... :crazy:

You have any evidence of that or just making more stuff up?


He averages 2 assists per game despite a super high usage rate. Being able to read defenses and find open teammates is a hallmark of high BBIQ.
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Re: Zach Edey, 7-4 

Post#600 » by disoblige » Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:47 am

Eddy barely plays for team Canada says something about the coach trust in him. Was -18(I think) in 2 min vs USA.

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