GG Jackson Thread

[FarBeyondDriven]

I saw he had a big night. Good for him. He's one of the rawer prospects. I thought he was a little too stiff and upright for my liking but there's no denying his size and athleticism plus he shows promise as a shooter. I just wish he was more fluid and I could believe in him as a defender thus making him a viable 3 and D candidate.

[BigGargamel]

Early returns show that a lot of GMs should be fired.

Meh. Someone has to put up stats on an absolutely terrible, shorthanded roster.

He had top ten talent, and South Carolina was not the best place for him to go, but he was a deserved second round pick. There were too many holes in his game, and still are. A two game sample size when someone has to score isn't changing that. We've seen this story a thousand times.

[ItsDanger]

Early returns show that a lot of GMs should be fired.

Meh. Someone has to put up stats on an absolutely terrible, shorthanded roster.

He had top ten talent, and South Carolina was not the best place for him to go, but he was a deserved second round pick. There were too many holes in his game, and still are. A two game sample size when someone has to score isn't changing that. We've seen this story a thousand times.

That size and skillset is worth the risk every time at 45. Risk/reward matters when drafting.

[MemphisX]

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[BAMAFREAK]

He and Vince’s development make this awful season palatable. Them and whoever we take with a top 7 pick.

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[clyde21]

27 piece tonight

NBA GMs are such fools

[peZt]

27 piece tonight

NBA GMs are such fools

You literally had GG 24th, Anthony Black 3rd and Taylor Hendricks 6th

[BlazersBroncos]

I will eat crow on this. Had no clue his shot would be this good - dont really think anyone can argue they saw this coming from a shooting perspective.

Hope he pans out - guys his size that can shoot like this are super fun to watch. Hope MEM can get some more vets this summer to help him reach his 'good player on a good team' potential rather than settle into the high scorer on a bad team trap.

[Homerclease]

If I were a scout, I'd watch this 2-minute clip of an 18 year-old making high-level plays in the SEC and I'd feel comfortable drafting him in the top half of the 1st round. There's really nothing more to think about, other than the question of how coachable he is. You're drafting a prospect like this based on what you think they can be 3 years from now.

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Oh, the irony

[clyde21]

27 piece tonight

NBA GMs are such fools

You literally had GG 24th, Anthony Black 3rd and Taylor Hendricks 6th

and he literally went 45th.

also read this thread and see who was defending him and even making a case for him in the lotto for a good portion of the season:

still feels like he's being underrated despite all the inefficiency

we're still talking about the youngest cat in the entire draft averaging 30/12 per 100 possession in a tough conference on a bad team, with an NBA physical profile and an easy to project two-way and scoring toolset.

Kuminga, a similar archetype player with similar strengths/flaws coming out went 7th overall in a strong class, and GG's a better prospect IMO. these guys just don't come along too often, you'll barely get 1 in each class, if that.

it all comes down to when you are willing to make the bet. some people are more risk averse than others. for me I am comfortable making that bet in the top10 fully knowing he has a higher bust probability than other guys in the same range.

i wouldn't be able to live with myself if he hits his potential and I pass on him because I thought a 3/D guy was a safer proposition. that's just the game you have to play as a GM. if you hit on a player like this you're set for a decade. if you miss, does it really matter that you passed on a few roleplayers instead?

[Catchall]

Yeah, I was ahead of the curve on this guy. The book on him was just that he was immature during his pre-draft process and a bunch of teams shied away. He was a pretty obvious NBA talent.

[Chuck Everett]

He's playing so well since being called up, although, he doesn't look 6'10 to me out there. He looks the same size as Ziaire Williams, who is 6'8. Then again, it could be that Jaren Jackson Jr has grown even taller (maybe over 7'0 now) since becoming a pro.

[shangrila]

Yeah, I was ahead of the curve on this guy. The book on him was just that he was immature during his pre-draft process and a bunch of teams shied away. He was a pretty obvious NBA talent.

He's obviously talented, although I think the victory lap stuff some people are doing is a little premature.

He wouldn't be the first talented player to moron his way out of the league. Didn't he already admit he's been fined 4 times before signing his contract? And didn't he follow that up with some kind of minor suspension for breaking team rules?

[clyde21]

Yeah, I was ahead of the curve on this guy. The book on him was just that he was immature during his pre-draft process and a bunch of teams shied away. He was a pretty obvious NBA talent.

He's obviously talented, although I think the victory lap stuff some people are doing is a little premature.

He wouldn't be the first talented player to moron his way out of the league. Didn't he already admit he's been fined 4 times before signing his contract? And didn't he follow that up with some kind of minor suspension for breaking team rules?

not victory lapping to say its insane he dropped to 45...that was true that night of the draft.

[EvanZ]

Are people really taking laps on GG Jackson right now? Maybe the same guys who took laps on Erich Paschall 3 years ago.

[Catchall]

Are people really taking laps on GG Jackson right now? Maybe the same guys who took laps on Erich Paschall 3 years ago.

I can tell you as a Jazz fan that GG looks a lot better than Taylor Hendricks so far.

[peZt]

27 piece tonight

NBA GMs are such fools

You literally had GG 24th, Anthony Black 3rd and Taylor Hendricks 6th

and he literally went 45th.

also read this thread and see who was defending him and even making a case for him in the lotto for a good portion of the season:

still feels like he's being underrated despite all the inefficiency

we're still talking about the youngest cat in the entire draft averaging 30/12 per 100 possession in a tough conference on a bad team, with an NBA physical profile and an easy to project two-way and scoring toolset.

Kuminga, a similar archetype player with similar strengths/flaws coming out went 7th overall in a strong class, and GG's a better prospect IMO. these guys just don't come along too often, you'll barely get 1 in each class, if that.

it all comes down to when you are willing to make the bet. some people are more risk averse than others. for me I am comfortable making that bet in the top10 fully knowing he has a higher bust probability than other guys in the same range.

i wouldn't be able to live with myself if he hits his potential and I pass on him because I thought a 3/D guy was a safer proposition. that's just the game you have to play as a GM. if you hit on a player like this you're set for a decade. if you miss, does it really matter that you passed on a few roleplayers instead?

Yeah and my point is that it's easy to call GMs fools, from the comfort of your home pc. But if a GM is a fool for letting GG fall to 45th, what would you call a GM who takes Anhony Black 3rd?

I simply can't stand the arrogance of hobby scouts on Twitter and here, who call everyone who earns money for what they themselves do for free, "fools", as if they were right 100% of the time. I don't have the time for it, but if anyone analysed your mocks of the last handful of years, I doubt that you would fare any better than the fool GMs

[clyde21]

You literally had GG 24th, Anthony Black 3rd and Taylor Hendricks 6th

and he literally went 45th.

also read this thread and see who was defending him and even making a case for him in the lotto for a good portion of the season:

still feels like he's being underrated despite all the inefficiency

we're still talking about the youngest cat in the entire draft averaging 30/12 per 100 possession in a tough conference on a bad team, with an NBA physical profile and an easy to project two-way and scoring toolset.

Kuminga, a similar archetype player with similar strengths/flaws coming out went 7th overall in a strong class, and GG's a better prospect IMO. these guys just don't come along too often, you'll barely get 1 in each class, if that.

it all comes down to when you are willing to make the bet. some people are more risk averse than others. for me I am comfortable making that bet in the top10 fully knowing he has a higher bust probability than other guys in the same range.

i wouldn't be able to live with myself if he hits his potential and I pass on him because I thought a 3/D guy was a safer proposition. that's just the game you have to play as a GM. if you hit on a player like this you're set for a decade. if you miss, does it really matter that you passed on a few roleplayers instead?

Yeah and my point is that it's easy to call GMs fools, from the comfort of your home pc. But if a GM is a fool for letting GG fall to 45th, what would you call a GM who takes Anhony Black 3rd?

I simply can't stand the arrogance of hobby scouts on Twitter and here, who call everyone who earns money for what they themselves do for free, "fools", as if they were right 100% of the time. I don't have the time for it, but if anyone analysed your mocks of the last handful of years, I doubt that you would fare any better than the fool GMs

NBA GMs are fools

There, I did it again

Now what?