23' draft steals/ hidden gems with high end potential being overlooked??

[SeattleJazzFan]

Mouhamed Gueye
Jacob Toppin
Toumani Camara

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givony calls camara the standout performer after tevian jones dropped 36 on 13 shots. lol

[ThunderScot]

there are some whispers that Bobi Klintman might end up being a first rounder

I was just coming on thread to mention his name. 19 years old, 6'10", athletic and a pretty decent shooter with defensive tools. That's at least a late 1st/ early 2nd rounder any day of the week.

I'm hoping the Thunder can come away with one of him, Podziemski or Kobe Bufkin.

[jman3134]

Mouhamed Gueye
Jacob Toppin
Toumani Camara

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givony calls camara the standout performer after tevian jones dropped 36 on 13 shots. lol

Good call here. It wasn't even close in that one game. Camara played well overall, but was far from a surefire draft pick from the eye test. His outside shot was not consistent and he was aggressive, but he really had the bad luck of the draw with a terrible team. Tough to glean much.

[jman3134]

Sir'Jabari Rice earned himself a draft pick at the PIT. Active, versatile scorer. Competed defensively.

[JMAC3]

Leonard Miller is averaging 20.5 PTS 12.3 REB 1.9 AST 1.0 BLK 1.2 STL per 36 in the Gleague.

I have been told that scoring in college is easier than in Gleague by several posters. How many points per game would Miller be averaging if he was in college?

[clyde21]

Leonard Miller is averaging 20.5 PTS 12.3 REB 1.9 AST 1.0 BLK 1.2 STL per 36 in the Gleague.

I have been told that scoring in college is easier than in Gleague by several posters. How many points per game would Miller be averaging if he was in college?

the fact that you're STILL using per minute comps between college and GL instead of per100 is peak comedy. you're clearly just trolling at this point.

[JMAC3]

Leonard Miller is averaging 20.5 PTS 12.3 REB 1.9 AST 1.0 BLK 1.2 STL per 36 in the Gleague.

I have been told that scoring in college is easier than in Gleague by several posters. How many points per game would Miller be averaging if he was in college?

the fact that you're STILL using per minute comps between college and GL instead of per100 is peak comedy. you're clearly just trolling at this point.

Excuse me lol.
Leonard Miller is averaging 28 pts per 100 possession.
Anthony Black is 20 pts per 100 possession.

So again I ask how many is he scoring if he played vs college teams? You have told me the competition level is a massive step down in college too, so he is probably scoring more per 100 possessions in college than gleague right?

[clyde21]

Leonard Miller is averaging 20.5 PTS 12.3 REB 1.9 AST 1.0 BLK 1.2 STL per 36 in the Gleague.

I have been told that scoring in college is easier than in Gleague by several posters. How many points per game would Miller be averaging if he was in college?

the fact that you're STILL using per minute comps between college and GL instead of per100 is peak comedy. you're clearly just trolling at this point.

Excuse me lol.
Leonard Miller is averaging 28 pts per 100 possession.
Anthony Black is 20 pts per 100 possession.

So again I ask how many is he scoring if he played vs college teams? You have told me the competition level is a massive step down in college too, so he is probably scoring more per 100 possessions in college than gleague right?

per 100 poss:

Keyonte: 32 pts
B Miller: 32 pts
Sensabaugh: 40 pts
Hawkins: 32 pts
Whitmore: 28 pts
GG: 30 pts
Nick Smith: 28 pts
Bates: 32 pts
Terq: 31 pts

lets us know when you have a point

[JMAC3]

the fact that you're STILL using per minute comps between college and GL instead of per100 is peak comedy. you're clearly just trolling at this point.

Excuse me lol.
Leonard Miller is averaging 28 pts per 100 possession.
Anthony Black is 20 pts per 100 possession.

So again I ask how many is he scoring if he played vs college teams? You have told me the competition level is a massive step down in college too, so he is probably scoring more per 100 possessions in college than gleague right?

per 100 poss:

Keyonte: 32 pts
B Miller: 32 pts
Sensabaugh: 40 pts
Hawkins: 32 pts
Whitmore: 28 pts
GG: 30 pts
Nick Smith: 28 pts
Bates: 32 pts
Terq: 31 pts

lets us know when you have a point

Answer these two questions for me first and then I will make my point.

Is Leonard Miller points per 100 possession higher if he played against college competition?

And if so what would you expect his per 36 numbers to be in college?

[clyde21]

Excuse me lol.
Leonard Miller is averaging 28 pts per 100 possession.
Anthony Black is 20 pts per 100 possession.

So again I ask how many is he scoring if he played vs college teams? You have told me the competition level is a massive step down in college too, so he is probably scoring more per 100 possessions in college than gleague right?

per 100 poss:

Keyonte: 32 pts
B Miller: 32 pts
Sensabaugh: 40 pts
Hawkins: 32 pts
Whitmore: 28 pts
GG: 30 pts
Nick Smith: 28 pts
Bates: 32 pts
Terq: 31 pts

lets us know when you have a point

Answer these two questions for me first and then I will make my point.

Is Leonard Miller points per 100 possession higher if he played against college competition?

And if so what would you expect his per 36 numbers to be in college?

lol - no, ofc it isn't...unless again you think playing Norfolk and Nicholls St. is a tougher assignment than actual actual NBA players in the GL. in which I can't really help you at that point.

[Wizop]

lets us know when you have a point

my conclusion is that I hope the Pacers take Leonard Miller with the Cavs pick.

[JMAC3]

per 100 poss:

Keyonte: 32 pts
B Miller: 32 pts
Sensabaugh: 40 pts
Hawkins: 32 pts
Whitmore: 28 pts
GG: 30 pts
Nick Smith: 28 pts
Bates: 32 pts
Terq: 31 pts

lets us know when you have a point

Answer these two questions for me first and then I will make my point.

Is Leonard Miller points per 100 possession higher if he played against college competition?

And if so what would you expect his per 36 numbers to be in college?

lol - no, ofc it isn't...unless again you think playing Norfolk and Nicholls St. is a tougher assignment than actual actual NBA players in the GL. in which I can't really help you at that point.

You are contradicting yourself here then. So you are saying his pts per 100 would be lower in college? I am generally confused by your response.

[Hal14]

there are some whispers that Bobi Klintman might end up being a first rounder

I was just coming on thread to mention his name. 19 years old, 6'10", athletic and a pretty decent shooter with defensive tools. That's at least a late 1st/ early 2nd rounder any day of the week.

I'm hoping the Thunder can come away with one of him, Podziemski or Kobe Bufkin.

He's 20, actually. But just turned 20 last month so I won't beat up on you too much.

I am high on Klintman, though. Definitely think he's worth an upside swing in the 2nd round. Possibly even late 1st, depending on how he looks in workouts, what his measurements are and stuff.

Will be interesting to see if he stays in the draft, though. Let's say he goes 40th pick. Well, guys picked in that range have had a rough go of it last couple years (Kendall brown, trevor keels, Houstan, etc.) as their team doesn't have enough roster spots or playing time to give them, doesn't prioritize development of a player drafted that late, etc.

Perhaps Klintman returns to Wake, where he can hopefully get more of a role on the team this time around and leap into the top 20 (maybe even lotto) for the 2024 draft..

[Hal14]

The steal of the draft could end up being Aliou Diarra. Probably the fastest, most athletic big in the draft. Good touch around the rim and on mid range jumpers. Extremely active on both ends. Putting up big numbers (18 PPG, 13 RPG, 2 BPG, 2 SPG) in the African league. 21 yrs old. 6'10" with a crazy wingspan..

[SeattleJazzFan]

per 100 poss:

Keyonte: 32 pts
B Miller: 32 pts
Sensabaugh: 40 pts
Hawkins: 32 pts
Whitmore: 28 pts
GG: 30 pts
Nick Smith: 28 pts
Bates: 32 pts
Terq: 31 pts

lets us know when you have a point

Answer these two questions for me first and then I will make my point.

Is Leonard Miller points per 100 possession higher if he played against college competition?

And if so what would you expect his per 36 numbers to be in college?

lol - no, ofc it isn't...unless again you think playing Norfolk and Nicholls St. is a tougher assignment than actual actual NBA players in the GL. in which I can't really help you at that point.

so miller is comparable to those guys in terms of points per 100 while playing against actual nba players. would he be averaging 36 pp 100 in college? 40? 45?

[Wizop]

The steal of the draft could end up being Aliou Diarra. Probably the fastest, most athletic big in the draft. Good touch around the rim and on mid range jumpers. Extremely active on both ends. Putting up big numbers (18 PPG, 13 RPG, 2 BPG, 2 SPG) in the African league. 21 yrs old. 6'10" with a crazy wingspan..

is he a 5 or a 4? can you compare him to Nnaji?

[Hal14]

The steal of the draft could end up being Aliou Diarra. Probably the fastest, most athletic big in the draft. Good touch around the rim and on mid range jumpers. Extremely active on both ends. Putting up big numbers (18 PPG, 13 RPG, 2 BPG, 2 SPG) in the African league. 21 yrs old. 6'10" with a crazy wingspan..

is he a 5 or a 4? can you compare him to Nnaji?

He's a 5. But he's skinny. 6'10" and probably only a little over 200 lbs. So similar body to Nic Claxton. With how quick/mobile Diarra is, I suppose you could play him at the 4 at times - depending on who the 5 is.

Nnaji is much bulkier, stronger. And an inch or 2 taller. Just a much bigger dude. But Diarra is quicker, much quicker, more nimble, more athletic. Diarra can hit the mid range jumper, too - unlike Nnaji. But Nnaji is 2 yrs and 8 months younger. At this point I'd rank Nnaji higher.

But I'm also very high on Nnaji (have him ranked no. 20 at the moment).

You could perhaps get Diarra much later in the draft (or even as an UDFA) and get value that is not far behind Nnaji.

[Wizop]

But I'm also very high on Nnaji (have him ranked no. 20 at the moment).

I have have him on my Pacer watch list but I'd want to leave him in Europe for at least a year as we have more picks than we can use this year. Bilal is on the same stash list.

[Hal14]

But I'm also very high on Nnaji (have him ranked no. 20 at the moment).

I have have him on my Pacer watch list but I'd want to leave him in Europe for at least a year as we have more picks than we can use this year. Bilal is on the same stash list.

That's the thing with Nnaji. Ideal scenario is probably to keep him overseas for 1 year to get a little more development vs really good competition, especially with him being so young and given the lack of playing time he got this season.

But 1st rounders get a guaranteed roster spot - you typically only see 2nd rounders get stashed overseas. Nnaji it seems like could go late 1st or early 2nd round. If a team takes him in the 1st round, it'll probably be a team that is willing to bring him over next season (and if he's not quite ready for NBA mins, they could give him some run in the g league..similar to what the rockets have done with Garuba).

[SeattleJazzFan]

Has Omari Moore been mentioned as a potential hidden gem? 17, 5 and 5, elite athlete, good length, good all around game, 4 year guy. questionable long range shooting. sorta in that same boat as a guy like Taevion Kinsey.