Nike Hoop Summit '24 Thread

peZt · Post #21 » by **peZt** » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:48 am

This game lost a lot of appeal once it basically turned into the McDonald's All American game only divided by nationality.

Up until 2014 or something they really used to get the best world talents of the year. But since then I guess they dont want to bother with the hassle of dealing with their teams in Europe, probably got super expensive as well flying them all over to the US so they focused on High School talent which lowered the talent level a lot

Catchall · Post #22 » by **Catchall** » Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:39 am

Not much here, but whatever.

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Catchall · Post #23 » by **Catchall** » Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:15 am

First impressions:
** Cooper Flagg -- Looks about 6'8". Has a nice mid-range game with his fading jumper and high release.
** Ace Bailey -- Looks a bit taller than Cooper. Smooth jumper. He's long, and he gets up for contests and rebounds.
** AJ Dybantsa -- Very long. Uses long strides to drive by defenders. Aggressive going to the rim. Has some passing vision.
** VJ Edgecomb -- Athletic. Confident driver with some change-of-speed. Gets on top of the rim. Confident shooter with his feet set.
** Chomche -- Decent size. Sets a hard screen. Competes for rebounds. Can hedge and recover. Defensive deterrent at the rim. Has passing chops from the high post. Has touch in the post with his left hand.
** Nolan Traore -- Nice 2-way guard with athleticism and a complete game.

Catchall · Post #24 » by **Catchall** » Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:21 am

Box Score -- https://www.usab.com/gamecast/1873

Highlights ---

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babyjax13 · Post #25 » by **babyjax13** » Sun Apr 14, 2024 8:50 am

Traore looks nice.

MemphisX · Post #26 » by **MemphisX** » Sun Apr 14, 2024 9:35 am

Watch on YouTube

Chuck Everett · Post #27 » by **Chuck Everett** » Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:06 am

A lot of good players in this game. Saw some good mechanics shooting the rock too. Will be interesting to see how they do next year as we still have Covid oldies hanging around. I also thought Traore looked great as a lead guard.

FrodoBaggins · Post #28 » by **FrodoBaggins** » Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:08 am

The Flagship™.

remi_222 · Post #29 » by **remi_222** » Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:59 am

Chuck Everett wrote:A lot of good players in this game. Saw some good mechanics shooting the rock too. Will be interesting to see how they do next year as we still have Covid oldies hanging around. I also thought Traore looked great as a lead guard.

Traoré is the one we were waiting for french bball !! All positions are stacked except PG !! He''s a pure product of the French Basketball Institution where he spent 3 yrs (playing in the 3rd league in France at the age of 14), same institution as TP9, Diaw, Pietrus, Fournier, Batum, Wemby, ... etc
He will turn 18 in a month and a half and next yr he should have around 25min, from there we'll see if he goes next draft or the following.

lambchop · Post #30 » by **lambchop** » Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:26 pm

Chuck Everett wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:To me VJ Edgecombe takes the biggest hit here. Some places listed him as a 6'5 SG. Officially measures at 6'3 (with shoes) and only a 6'5 wingspan. When from looking as a SG with good size and elite athleticism, to a SG in a small PG body.

If he can score at an above average level, perhaps he will grade out as a Malik Monk type. I preface that with the understanding that Malik is an elite run/jump athlete.

If he can take elements from Vanvleet's game, he will have a solid nba career. Even JJ Barea was capable of defending SGs in the nba and crafting out a nice career. These shorter guys really have to be dogs on defense, while providing instant offense. Monk is exceptional leaper, while Edgecomb looks pretty good in that area, but not exceptional, however, we've seen SOME players, like Dwayne Wade, make strides athletically after entering the league, due to fully dedicating themselves to improving in that area.

HadAnEffectHere · Post #31 » by **HadAnEffectHere** » Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:36 pm

AJ looked ridiculously good last night.

crows2 · Post #32 » by **crows2** » Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:43 pm

I'm yet to watch the Hoop Summit, but Edgecombe looked tiny for a wing at McDonald's. Not just his height, but his build looked small too. In saying that he does look like a good athlete.

FrodoBaggins · Post #33 » by **FrodoBaggins** » Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:46 pm

Flagg has a really good frame. Looks broad across the body with a good thickness of the limb despite his comparative leanness.

ROballer · Post #34 » by **ROballer** » Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:58 pm

Edgecombe needs to be on that Bahamas OQT tournament.

Gordon/Hield/Kai/Ayton. They need all the talent they can get, even tho' he's a pup.

bravor · Post #35 » by **bravor** » Sun Apr 14, 2024 2:07 pm

remi_222 wrote:
Chuck Everett wrote:A lot of good players in this game. Saw some good mechanics shooting the rock too. Will be interesting to see how they do next year as we still have Covid oldies hanging around. I also thought Traore looked great as a lead guard.

Traoré is the one we were waiting for french bball !! All positions are stacked except PG !! He''s a pure product of the French Basketball Institution where he spent 3 yrs (playing in the 3rd league in France at the age of 14), same institution as TP9, Diaw, Pietrus, Fournier, Batum, Wemby, ... etc
He will turn 18 in a month and a half and next yr he should have around 25min, from there we'll see if he goes next draft or the following.

Batum has never been in Insep, he was in developed in Le Mans (which he joined at 15th). Rest is correct, including the hopes we can have in Traore. Even though he looks like a score first (and clutch) pg, we are still missing a real floor general and pnr maestro.

Catchall · Post #36 » by **Catchall** » Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:53 pm

Dybantsa, Traore and Edgecombe combined for 47 shot attempts, mostly from self-creation. Meanwhile, Chomche got two shot attempts. There wasn't much passing going on. USA shared the ball a little more.

Catchall · Post #37 » by **Catchall** » Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:55 pm

crows2 wrote:I'm yet to watch the Hoop Summit, but Edgecombe looked tiny for a wing at McDonald's. Not just his height, but his build looked small too. In saying that he does look like a good athlete.

He's a guard, potentially even a lead guard.

Catchall · Post #38 » by **Catchall** » Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:56 pm

HadAnEffectHere wrote:AJ looked ridiculously good last night.

Just 17. His body is going to fill out.

MemphisX · Post #39 » by **MemphisX** » Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:10 am

Flagg moves so well for a big wing/combo forward. Plays hard. The shot form is terrible but was going in so IDC.

remi_222 · Post #40 » by **remi_222** » Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:12 am

bravor wrote:
remi_222 wrote:
Chuck Everett wrote:A lot of good players in this game. Saw some good mechanics shooting the rock too. Will be interesting to see how they do next year as we still have Covid oldies hanging around. I also thought Traore looked great as a lead guard.

Traoré is the one we were waiting for french bball !! All positions are stacked except PG !! He''s a pure product of the French Basketball Institution where he spent 3 yrs (playing in the 3rd league in France at the age of 14), same institution as TP9, Diaw, Pietrus, Fournier, Batum, Wemby, ... etc
He will turn 18 in a month and a half and next yr he should have around 25min, from there we'll see if he goes next draft or the following.

Batum has never been in Insep, he was in developed in Le Mans (which he joined at 15th). Rest is correct, including the hopes we can have in Traore. Even though he looks like a score first (and clutch) pg, we are still missing a real floor general and pnr maestro.

he's still 17 ... we can be patient