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Post#1401 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:11 pm

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He gets to the line more than Shaq, and shoots 71%.

But in this timeline he's supposedly a second rounder. :lol:
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Post#1402 » by hype_2004 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:27 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=0YpMScWXY2zRUqR8fH-usg

He gets to the line more than Shaq, and shoots 71%.

But in this timeline he's supposedly a second rounder. :lol:


This guy is essentially Yao Ming, in this era no one values size and skill in the post, Raptors should grab him with the mid pick if he's available but all sources point to him rising in the draft and will be gone before the 10th pick.
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Post#1403 » by ItsDanger » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:31 pm

Psubs wrote:Is Dalton Knect a more athletic Austin Reaves?

I recall the head to head battle of Reaves vs Cade and Brandon Miller vs GG Jackson; Reaves and Jackson held their own.

Has Knect faced UConn this season vs Castle? Edit: No they haven't met.... yet.

I can see Knect drop to #16 Philadelphia, who would be good with a plug n play wing for a team that would be back in the top 5 in the east next season.

PG Maxey
SG Knect
SF Paul George
PF Reed
C Embiid

Knecht and Reaves have completely different games.
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Post#1404 » by PhilBlackson » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:32 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=0YpMScWXY2zRUqR8fH-usg

He gets to the line more than Shaq, and shoots 71%.

But in this timeline he's supposedly a second rounder. :lol:


Since you’re comparing him to Shaq lol who played in a different era and was easily more athletic…does that mean you think Edey will be an all time great, top 5 C in the league or what level are you expecting him to be at?
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Post#1405 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:37 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=0YpMScWXY2zRUqR8fH-usg

He gets to the line more than Shaq, and shoots 71%.

But in this timeline he's supposedly a second rounder. :lol:


Since you’re comparing him to Shaq lol who played in a different era and was easily more athletic…does that mean you think Edey will be an all time great, top 5 C in the league or what level are you expecting him to be at?

I think the scouts who are evaluating him, have never seen a player like him with their own eyes.
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Post#1406 » by Dalek » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:39 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=0YpMScWXY2zRUqR8fH-usg

He gets to the line more than Shaq, and shoots 71%.

But in this timeline he's supposedly a second rounder. :lol:


My summary of the article and with Edey in general is that he is a great but deeply flawed player. He cannot come out of the paint and is susceptible to floaters and will have issues with pick and roll. He is a non-jumpshooter who is around 70% from the freethrow line which doesn't exactly make you think he has another leap in him as a shooter.

The most damning thing is that over his entire career he has a negative assist-to-turnover ratio. When you watch him pass they are usually quick, short-range hits to cutters, no kick outs to corners, no probing options.

He does come in with elite size and strength and a simple but effective post game. I was surprised to find out he is only 21 - so he has a lot of time to further develop. I am very curious about how good it will be for him in the NBA with spacing - maybe too unstoppable even for Wemby.

I think if we end up with three picks there is zero chance Toronto will pass on him with that Indy pick.

What I think is ultimately it is a benefit to have an Edey because it is an arms race in the NBA. Joel Embiid, Jokic are the past two MVPs, and now we have Wemby. You need size to compete for a title, so Edey as a dominant big will help change the dynamic for Toronto. At worst I think he is going to be Jonas Valancuinas level of impact, which is going to at least create a credible bench threat.

The problem is our style of play currently, just doesn't fit him. If we dumped Darko ball for more of grinding Thibs ball, we would have something.
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Post#1407 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:41 pm

Dalek wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=0YpMScWXY2zRUqR8fH-usg

He gets to the line more than Shaq, and shoots 71%.

But in this timeline he's supposedly a second rounder. :lol:


My summary of the article and with Edey in general is that he is a great but deeply flawed player. He cannot come out of the paint and is susceptible to floaters and will have issues with pick and roll. He is a non-jumpshooter who is around 70% from the freethrow line which doesn't exactly make you think he has another leap in him as a shooter.

The most damning thing is that over his entire career he has a negative assist-to-turnover ratio. When you watch him pass they are usually quick, short-range hits to cutters, no kick outs to corners, no probing options.

He does come in with elite size and strength and a simple but effective post game. I was surprised to find out he is only 21 - so he has a lot of time to further develop. I am very curious about how good it will be for him in the NBA with spacing - maybe too unstoppable even for Wemby.

I think if we end up with three picks there is zero chance Toronto will pass on him with that Indy pick.

What I think is ultimately it is a benefit to have an Edey because it is an arms race in the NBA. Joel Embiid, Jokic are the past two MVPs, and now we have Wemby. You need size to compete for a title, so Edey as a dominant big will help change the dynamic for Toronto. At worst I think he is going to be Jonas Valancuinas level of impact, which is going to at least create a credible bench threat.

The problem is our style of play currently, just doesn't fit him. If we dumped Darko ball for more of grinding Thibs ball, we would have something.

I think if he gets to the line 10-12 times a game, that's a "you" problem, not a "me" problem.
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Post#1408 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:49 pm

non zero chance Raps take him with 2nd round pick if he's there.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#1409 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:51 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:non zero chance Raps take him with 2nd round pick if he's there.

You''ll have a hard time finding five players better.
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Post#1410 » by Psubs » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:52 pm

Dalek wrote:My summary of the article and with Edey in general is that he is a great but deeply flawed player. He cannot come out of the paint and is susceptible to floaters and will have issues with pick and roll. He is a non-jumpshooter who is around 70% from the freethrow line which doesn't exactly make you think he has another leap in him as a shooter.

The most damning thing is that over his entire career he has a negative assist-to-turnover ratio. When you watch him pass they are usually quick, short-range hits to cutters, no kick outs to corners, no probing options.

He does come in with elite size and strength and a simple but effective post game. I was surprised to find out he is only 21 - so he has a lot of time to further develop. I am very curious about how good it will be for him in the NBA with spacing - maybe too unstoppable even for Wemby.

I think if we end up with three picks there is zero chance Toronto will pass on him with that Indy pick.

What I think is ultimately it is a benefit to have an Edey because it is an arms race in the NBA. Joel Embiid, Jokic are the past two MVPs, and now we have Wemby. You need size to compete for a title, so Edey as a dominant big will help change the dynamic for Toronto. At worst I think he is going to be Jonas Valancuinas level of impact, which is going to at least create a credible bench threat.

The problem is our style of play currently, just doesn't fit him. If we dumped Darko ball for more of grinding Thibs ball, we would have something.


The Knicks should take him with #21 or 22. Sarr, Clingan, Filipowski, then Ware and Edey. Edey needs a right situation to be a starter.

Damn, this got me thinking of Hasheem Thabeet going #2 overall. Sheesh, so many miscalculations in Vancouver and Memphis. Should've drafted Odom instead of Francis and Harden instead of Thabeet. They already hit magic with Marc Gasol the year before.

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SF Harden - Gay - Carroll
PF ZBo - Arthur - Gay
C Gasol - Haddadi/Hunter

This team should've won a championship and the Curry might have zero recent championships. They don't win the lucky one where every opposing PG was out or playing hurt and then the choke job of 73-9. Then maybe since Durant sees that they are just pretenders that he doesn't join the Warriors. :D
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Post#1411 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:54 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:non zero chance Raps take him with 2nd round pick if he's there.

You''ll have a hard time finding five players better.


determines if his game translates to the NBA as a starter, really. if teams just PnR him to death and the team doesn't have enough defenders (with offensive capabilities) to cover his weaknesses - he ain't going to flourish.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#1412 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Thu Mar 28, 2024 4:57 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:non zero chance Raps take him with 2nd round pick if he's there.

You''ll have a hard time finding five players better.


determines if his game translates to the NBA as a starter, really. if teams just PnR him to death and the team doesn't have enough defenders (with offensive capabilities) to cover his weaknesses - he ain't going to flourish.

It's the non-French name holding him back.
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Post#1413 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:02 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:You''ll have a hard time finding five players better.


determines if his game translates to the NBA as a starter, really. if teams just PnR him to death and the team doesn't have enough defenders (with offensive capabilities) to cover his weaknesses - he ain't going to flourish.

It's the non-French name holding him back.


lol eh, i have my doubts but i can also see him succeed, in very specific situations. don't think the Raptors, by way of current team build can let him be a good player overall.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#1414 » by Psubs » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:09 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:non zero chance Raps take him with 2nd round pick if he's there.

You''ll have a hard time finding five players better.


Tristan DaSilva
Hunter Sallis
Dillon Jones
KJ Simpson
Bub Carrington
Jaylon Tyson
Kyshawn George
Tyler Kolek
DaRon Holmes
Ulrich Chomche

All may have better pro careers than Edey but Edey has the highest floor of this list.
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Post#1415 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:13 pm

Psubs wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:non zero chance Raps take him with 2nd round pick if he's there.

You''ll have a hard time finding five players better.


Tristan DaSilva
Hunter Sallis
Dillon Jones
KJ Simpson
Bub Carrington
Jaylon Tyson
Kyshawn George
Tyler Kolek
DaRon Holmes
Ulrich Chomche

All may have better pro careers than Edey but Edey has the highest floor of this list.

Edey/Barnes PnR. Who's got the answer?
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Post#1416 » by Thaddy » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:32 pm

I'd want Edey to rise because it'll mean a better player like Dillingham would drop. I'm not a fan of either since they both have issues related to size.

If we are dead set on a center with the lottery pick I would go with Sarr or develop Salaun into a big. The draft looks bad and picking based on position will just land up a scrub.
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Post#1417 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:45 pm

Thaddy wrote:I'd want Edey to rise because it'll mean a better player like Dillingham would drop. I'm not a fan of either since they both have issues related to size.

If we are dead set on a center with the lottery pick I would go with Sarr or develop Salaun into a big. The draft looks bad and picking based on position will just land up a scrub.


The Raptors have a shortfall on overall talent everywhere really. just take best talent, regardless of position, for sure.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#1418 » by PhilBlackson » Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:54 pm

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
PhilBlackson wrote:
Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:He gets to the line more than Shaq, and shoots 71%.

But in this timeline he's supposedly a second rounder. :lol:


Since you’re comparing him to Shaq lol who played in a different era and was easily more athletic…does that mean you think Edey will be an all time great, top 5 C in the league or what level are you expecting him to be at?

I think the scouts who are evaluating him, have never seen a player like him with their own eyes.


Maybe so but now if you don’t mind answering the question of how good you would estimate he might be??
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Post#1419 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:00 pm

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Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
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Since you’re comparing him to Shaq lol who played in a different era and was easily more athletic…does that mean you think Edey will be an all time great, top 5 C in the league or what level are you expecting him to be at?

I think the scouts who are evaluating him, have never seen a player like him with their own eyes.


Maybe so but now if you don’t mind answering the question of how good you would estimate he might be??

If he's healthy, he'll be dominant. If you see him getting to the line and playing 30 minutes, that's an all star or better.

He's legit got four inches on Embiid.
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Post#1420 » by Dalek » Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:00 pm

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Dalek wrote:My summary of the article and with Edey in general is that he is a great but deeply flawed player. He cannot come out of the paint and is susceptible to floaters and will have issues with pick and roll. He is a non-jumpshooter who is around 70% from the freethrow line which doesn't exactly make you think he has another leap in him as a shooter.

The most damning thing is that over his entire career he has a negative assist-to-turnover ratio. When you watch him pass they are usually quick, short-range hits to cutters, no kick outs to corners, no probing options.

He does come in with elite size and strength and a simple but effective post game. I was surprised to find out he is only 21 - so he has a lot of time to further develop. I am very curious about how good it will be for him in the NBA with spacing - maybe too unstoppable even for Wemby.

I think if we end up with three picks there is zero chance Toronto will pass on him with that Indy pick.

What I think is ultimately it is a benefit to have an Edey because it is an arms race in the NBA. Joel Embiid, Jokic are the past two MVPs, and now we have Wemby. You need size to compete for a title, so Edey as a dominant big will help change the dynamic for Toronto. At worst I think he is going to be Jonas Valancuinas level of impact, which is going to at least create a credible bench threat.

The problem is our style of play currently, just doesn't fit him. If we dumped Darko ball for more of grinding Thibs ball, we would have something.


The Knicks should take him with #21 or 22. Sarr, Clingan, Filipowski, then Ware and Edey. Edey needs a right situation to be a starter.


I do rate the C prospects similarly to you. For Toronto I really like Sarr, Clingan (better defender and passer than Edey), and I am on the fence with Flip and Ware. Flip I think is a PF and not a full time C, but maybe in a high pace offense like Toronto it could work. Ware I put below Edey. I think Zach will have a more successful career.

Honestly, with better training Edey can be a starter - he just needs to work on becoming a hub on offense to unlock more to his game. I keep thinking about how much I liked Sengun back in 2021 but everyone was thinking his slowish feet and small wingspan and lack of jumper would limit him in the NBA, and now he well-outplayed his draft slot 16 (similar to where Toronto would draft Edey). Edey is just as dominant - if not more than Sengun - going into the draft. Is it overthinking about whether Edey can be a success?

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