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2024 NBA Draft Lottery | TODAY! @3pm EST | Update: Raptors Convey 8th Pick to Spurs

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Do you want to keep or convey the pick?

Keep the pick
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Post#581 » by anotherhomer » Sun May 12, 2024 9:51 pm

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Raptors_128 wrote:MLSE has every right to question why they are paying Masai so much money. It’s been a disaster and most of his moves have been mind boggling.


That's why I'm saying...there's a chance he stay but ujiri will take a payout if he does

Unless tim comes calling


He probably joins Larry and the Kilmer group. Masai is gone the moment Ed gets control of the board.


Wnba doesn't pay a lot

Ujiri most likely goes to Las vegas
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Post#582 » by canada_dry » Sun May 12, 2024 9:53 pm

Tim Horton wrote:Tankin for nuttin lol
Damn, timmy.

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Post#583 » by canada_dry » Sun May 12, 2024 9:55 pm

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Randle McMurphy wrote:There’s a distinct possibility this team will be in the play-in next year with a healthy Barnes (if not better).

The attempts to somehow spin this as a win for this FO are funny to me
Simple. Late Lottery pick in next years draft>top 10 pick in this draft.

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There’s no guarantee of that whatsoever
One of the best drafts in a while>one of the worst drafts in a while if not one of the worst in history.

Safe bet. :)

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Post#584 » by ForeverTFC » Sun May 12, 2024 10:00 pm

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This has been covered in some corners. Masai and Ed don’t get along and Ed wanted him gone. His sister was backing Masai but her group lost the power struggle at Rogers. Bell and Larry are still backing Masai. It’s not just a basketball/business related rift btw - look into Ed/Trump and Masai/Trudeau - they don’t like each other.

Ed wants to take over all of MLSE. His first order of business will be to part with Masai. He will then relegate the Raptors below the Leafs and Jays. We can only hope Larry somehow keeps control the Raptors. Otherwise, we’re in for some dark ages stuff.


Had not heard anything about the political/ideaological aspect, which is fascinating and terrifying if a Trump guy is in charge of anything above a dog-walking firm that I care about. Appreciate the info.


Yup . Ed Rogers is a Trump disciple. That is indeed terrifying!


To be clear, there is a lot of speculation out there, especially as Rogers controls a lot of the media that would cover it. So I’m going off what I can read and the random comments you see here/read elsewhere. But Masai’s ties to Trudeau are pretty well publicized and we continue to see top Rogers execs at Trump events:
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-rogers-rob-gemmell-mar-a-lago-trump-rally/
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2021/05/04/suzanne-rogers-instagram-apology-donald-trump-photo-mar-a-lago-resort-edward-rogers-ryerson/

Also this article was the only one that covered what happened with the Masai hiring and it turns out, Larry over ruled Rogers to make the hiring, with Rogers pleading to the NBA to reverse that call. Silver and the NBA sided with Larry. 2 years post championship, Ed is telling Masai he doesn’t deserve what he’s paid and calls him “arrogant”.
https://www.thestar.com/business/edward-rogers-fought-plans-to-keep-raptors-masai-ujiri-but-was-thwarted-by-mlse-head/article_2abb5319-c18e-583b-9924-7da418c9680a.amp.html

It’s not coincidence that Grange (a Rogers employee) goes on the radio (Fan590 owned by Rogers) to talk about how Rogers “will eventually take over MLSE fully” during an interview in which he was talking about Masai’s future.
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Post#585 » by Clutch0z24 » Sun May 12, 2024 10:01 pm

Tbh losing the pick is fine for me...Should of had the 8th pick regardless cause that Yak trade was disgusting....But if i had to lose the pick id rather have lost this one ....Imagine a scenario we got a top 6 pick this year and drafted a bust, Still a terrible team next year and lost our pick in the following draft....Things could be worse...

Just be happy we are keeping next years pick at this point.
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Post#586 » by TRik » Sun May 12, 2024 10:05 pm

I’m still pissed that they sent Barnes to the lottery instead of Bobby or Masai having the courage to deal with reality with the cameras rolling. Weak.
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Post#587 » by Chandan » Sun May 12, 2024 10:06 pm

TRik wrote:I’m still pissed that they sent Barnes to the lottery instead of Bobby or Masai having the courage to deal with reality with the cameras rolling. Weak.


**** that. Send Poeltl. :lol:
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Post#588 » by TRik » Sun May 12, 2024 10:08 pm

Today I could have used Will Lou and The Raptors Show. Would have been cathartic listening to him sound off on this stupidity.
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Post#589 » by ForeverTFC » Sun May 12, 2024 10:08 pm

TRik wrote:I’m still pissed that they sent Barnes to the lottery instead of Bobby or Masai having the courage to deal with reality with the cameras rolling. Weak.


Most teams don’t send execs anymore. We sent Fred and Tolzman the last 2 times.
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Post#590 » by TRik » Sun May 12, 2024 10:11 pm

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TRik wrote:I’m still pissed that they sent Barnes to the lottery instead of Bobby or Masai having the courage to deal with reality with the cameras rolling. Weak.


Most teams don’t send execs anymore. We sent Fred and Tolzman the last 2 times.


Get it, but it was a mess of a situation that they made…which they got to roll someone else out for. It would have been more respectable if they faced the situation in front of the cameras. Would have at least seemed like they were accepting responsibility. Anyways, on to the next chapter.
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Post#591 » by Pointgod » Sun May 12, 2024 10:11 pm

Absolute insanity to not lottery protect the pick. Gregg Popovich running a masterclass in rebuilding with what he got for Poeltl, Derozan, Dejounte and even Thad Young lol
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Post#592 » by Duffman100 » Sun May 12, 2024 10:13 pm

Pointgod wrote:Absolute insanity to not lottery protect the pick. Gregg Popovich running a masterclass in rebuilding with what he got for Poeltl, Derozan, Dejounte and even Thad Young lol


Malaki Branham? He sort of sucks
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Post#593 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Sun May 12, 2024 10:15 pm

TRik wrote:I’m still pissed that they sent Barnes to the lottery instead of Bobby or Masai having the courage to deal with reality with the cameras rolling. Weak.

lol exactly what i thought when i saw him on TV.
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Post#594 » by 2019nbachamps » Sun May 12, 2024 10:16 pm

Masai got fleeced. The trade isn’t as bad as what Grunwald, Colangelo, Babcock but it’s probably among the worst 10 trades in franchise history.

We downgraded our 2023 FRP, lose our 2024 FRP, lose FVV, lose Nurse, gave up Siakam for very little, missed 2 straight playoffs in exchange for Poeltl. Terrible.
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Post#595 » by causal_fan » Sun May 12, 2024 10:17 pm

It's over - Time to move on but I guess people will be whining about this ad infinitum.
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Post#596 » by TRik » Sun May 12, 2024 10:20 pm

2019nbachamps wrote:Masai got fleeced. The trade isn’t as bad as what Grunwald, Colangelo, Babcock but it’s probably among the worst 10 trades in franchise history.

We downgraded our 2023 FRP, lose our 2024 FRP, lose FVV, lose Nurse, gave up Siakam for very little, missed 2 straight playoffs in exchange for Poeltl. Terrible.


Top ten is being generous. Top five…top three worst is more like it.
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Post#597 » by causal_fan » Sun May 12, 2024 10:21 pm

2019nbachamps wrote:Masai got fleeced. The trade isn’t as bad as what Grunwald, Colangelo, Babcock but it’s probably among the worst 10 trades in franchise history.

We downgraded our 2023 FRP, lose our 2024 FRP, lose FVV, lose Nurse, gave up Siakam for very little, missed 2 straight playoffs in exchange for Poeltl. Terrible.


Perhaps - What if the Raptors pick at 19 turns out better than the Spurs pick at 8 and/or the Raptors eventually trade Poeltl for a player/pick better than whom the Spurs pick at 8 this year?
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Post#598 » by 2019nbachamps » Sun May 12, 2024 10:22 pm

TRik wrote:
2019nbachamps wrote:Masai got fleeced. The trade isn’t as bad as what Grunwald, Colangelo, Babcock but it’s probably among the worst 10 trades in franchise history.

We downgraded our 2023 FRP, lose our 2024 FRP, lose FVV, lose Nurse, gave up Siakam for very little, missed 2 straight playoffs in exchange for Poeltl. Terrible.


Top ten is being generous. Top five…top three worst is more like it.


VC trade is worst ever. Grunwald made some terrible ones. Camby for Oakley and two FRPs for Kevin Willis. Colangelo’s Jermaine O’Neil trade was awful. I’d say the Poeltl is likely in the 5-10 range.
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Post#599 » by 2019nbachamps » Sun May 12, 2024 10:23 pm

causal_fan wrote:
2019nbachamps wrote:Masai got fleeced. The trade isn’t as bad as what Grunwald, Colangelo, Babcock but it’s probably among the worst 10 trades in franchise history.

We downgraded our 2023 FRP, lose our 2024 FRP, lose FVV, lose Nurse, gave up Siakam for very little, missed 2 straight playoffs in exchange for Poeltl. Terrible.


Perhaps - What if the Raptors pick at 19 turns out better than the Spurs pick at 8 and/or the Raptors eventually trade Poeltl for a player/pick better than whom the Spurs pick at 8 this year?


Doesn’t matter. It’s like making the wrong move in poker but still winning. The trade for Poeltl was awful. We completely overpaid and got worse.
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Post#600 » by Los_29 » Sun May 12, 2024 10:23 pm

Wanted to keep the pick after our tank job. But conveying this pick is probably best. Now we can move forward with all of our picks and put this bad trade behind us.

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