Siakam vs OG east conference semi finals

UnderdogRaptors · Post #141 » by **UnderdogRaptors** » Mon May 13, 2024 4:02 am

Shakril wrote:OG injured again. Thats definitly one of the reasons he was traded away, cause he aint worth the money if he doesnt play.

Raptors won that trade 4 sure

RoyceDa59 · Post #142 » by **RoyceDa59** » Mon May 13, 2024 12:31 pm

Indiana gaining steam in this series. Knicks players running out of gas and getting injured.

Will be a toss up from here.

Indeed · Post #143 » by **Indeed** » Wed May 15, 2024 7:56 pm

UnderdogRaptors wrote:
Shakril wrote:OG injured again. Thats definitly one of the reasons he was traded away, cause he aint worth the money if he doesnt play.

Raptors won that trade 4 sure

I don't know if the Knicks can be at this stage if they didn't make the trade.

will · Post #144 » by **will** » Wed May 15, 2024 8:02 pm

RoyceDa59 wrote:Indiana gaining steam in this series. Knicks players running out of gas and getting injured.

Will be a toss up from here.

Knicks from game 5 send their regards.

Indeed · Post #145 » by **Indeed** » Wed May 15, 2024 8:06 pm

AkelaLoneWolf wrote:Zach lowe was saying people would rag on the raptors when watching this series but the way its been playing out shows you exactly why there was no long term commitment to either player. siakam had a good game last night but has been over non impactful in this series. OG is now injured.
while I still think that the siakam trade return was underwhelming, I'm glad the FO did the moves they did even if there were a bit late.

Yet, the Pacers and Knicks believe they got the steal, both are top in +/- on their respective teams.
I don't think neither teams go this far without the trades. And the problem is more with the Raptors than these players (including Achiuwa).

YogurtProducer · Post #146 » by **YogurtProducer** » Wed May 15, 2024 8:22 pm

Indeed wrote:
UnderdogRaptors wrote:
Shakril wrote:OG injured again. Thats definitly one of the reasons he was traded away, cause he aint worth the money if he doesnt play.

Raptors won that trade 4 sure

I don't know if the Knicks can be at this stage if they didn't make the trade.

Prob not - but who cares when OG is not available when it matters.

He will come back and get hurt again. Just inevitable.

dTox · Post #147 » by **dTox** » Wed May 15, 2024 9:21 pm

OG injured and Siakam barely moving the needle in a playoff series against a team with 2 missing starter, what else is new?

AkelaLoneWolf · Post #148 » by **AkelaLoneWolf** » Wed May 15, 2024 10:07 pm

Indeed wrote:
AkelaLoneWolf wrote:Zach lowe was saying people would rag on the raptors when watching this series but the way its been playing out shows you exactly why there was no long term commitment to either player. siakam had a good game last night but has been over non impactful in this series. OG is now injured.
while I still think that the siakam trade return was underwhelming, I'm glad the FO did the moves they did even if there were a bit late.

Yet, the Pacers and Knicks believe they got the steal, both are top in +/- on their respective teams.
I don't think neither teams go this far without the trades. And the problem is more with the Raptors than these players (including Achiuwa).

on the paper they are better. they're both win now teams but the pacers are about to be eliminated against an injury depleted knicks and well, OG is injured. even if they get through this series, they'll be decimated against the celtics.

mrdressup · Post #149 » by **mrdressup** » Wed May 15, 2024 10:26 pm

One doesn't bring you much defensive intensity and the other is always injured come playoffs. Nothing has changed under the Sun. Cheering for NY, because Brunson is a just a great basketball player who refuses to lose. He was cast in Kyle Lowry's mold and improved upon.

WaltFrazier · Post #150 » by **WaltFrazier** » Thu May 16, 2024 2:31 am

mrdressup wrote:One doesn't bring you much defensive intensity and the other is always injured come playoffs. Nothing has changed under the Sun. Cheering for NY, because Brunson is a just a great basketball player who refuses to lose. He was cast in Kyle Lowry's mold and improved upon.

OG has been injured a lot, yes. But it's incorrect to say he "always injured come playoffs. " He had appendicitis to miss the 2019 playoffs. Otherwise he's never missed a playoff game until the last 3 Pacers games. He played all 10 playoff games in 2018, all 10 in 2020, all 6 in 2022, the lone play-in in 2023, and 8 playoff games this year until he pulled the hamstring.

One_and_Done · Post #151 » by **One_and_Done** » Thu May 16, 2024 2:39 am

Masai completely mishandled these two. Lost them for far less than they could have gotten. Didn't need to lose them at all tbh.

Mak · Post #152 » by **Mak** » Thu May 16, 2024 10:28 am

One_and_Done wrote:Masai completely mishandled these two. Lost them for far less than they could have gotten. Didn't need to lose them at all tbh.

This is your takeaway from this match up? OG is hurt and Siakam is not playing like a max player. OG trade was an amazing deal for us and even if we did not get enough for Siakam this is much better than losing them in the off season for nothing.

Mak · Post #153 » by **Mak** » Thu May 16, 2024 10:32 am

WaltFrazier wrote:
mrdressup wrote:One doesn't bring you much defensive intensity and the other is always injured come playoffs. Nothing has changed under the Sun. Cheering for NY, because Brunson is a just a great basketball player who refuses to lose. He was cast in Kyle Lowry's mold and improved upon.

OG has been injured a lot, yes. But it's incorrect to say he "always injured come playoffs. " He had appendicitis to miss the 2019 playoffs. Otherwise he's never missed a playoff game until the last 3 Pacers games. He played all 10 playoff games in 2018, all 10 in 2020, all 6 in 2022, the lone play-in in 2023, and 8 playoff games this year until he pulled the hamstring.

Don't forget the elbow injury. That will need surgery or something in the offseason.

One_and_Done · Post #154 » by **One_and_Done** » Thu May 16, 2024 10:32 am

Mak wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:Masai completely mishandled these two. Lost them for far less than they could have gotten. Didn't need to lose them at all tbh.

This is your takeaway from this match up? OG is hurt and Siakam is not playing like a max player. OG trade was an amazing deal for us and even if we did not get enough for Siakam this is much better than losing them in the off season for nothing.

You were only facing losing them for nothing because of how badly Masai mishandled the situation.

Chandan · Post #155 » by **Chandan** » Thu May 16, 2024 11:04 am

One_and_Done wrote:
Mak wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:Masai completely mishandled these two. Lost them for far less than they could have gotten. Didn't need to lose them at all tbh.

This is your takeaway from this match up? OG is hurt and Siakam is not playing like a max player. OG trade was an amazing deal for us and even if we did not get enough for Siakam this is much better than losing them in the off season for nothing.

You were only facing losing them for nothing because of how badly Masai mishandled the situation.

i wouldn't call the OG trade nothing. I am not "IQ is the next Maxey" crowd but he's still the 6th man of the year candidate the year prior. When you factor in RJ's production after he arrived in toronto the trade isnt bad considering the situation. At the very least we got 2 decent impact player for the price of an elite impact player at his best.
Siakam trade was a travesty that it got to the point where we have to dump him for Bruce brown and a 3 late first round picks. Pacers juiced Masai like a lemon.

will · Post #156 » by **will** » Thu May 16, 2024 1:02 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:
mrdressup wrote:One doesn't bring you much defensive intensity and the other is always injured come playoffs. Nothing has changed under the Sun. Cheering for NY, because Brunson is a just a great basketball player who refuses to lose. He was cast in Kyle Lowry's mold and improved upon.

OG has been injured a lot, yes. But it's incorrect to say he "always injured come playoffs. " He had appendicitis to miss the 2019 playoffs. Otherwise he's never missed a playoff game until the last 3 Pacers games. He played all 10 playoff games in 2018, all 10 in 2020, all 6 in 2022, the lone play-in in 2023, and 8 playoff games this year until he pulled the hamstring.

Also, consider the seasons where the Raptors missed the playoffs (Playoffs? PLAYOFFS?!?!?!?!) outright.

will · Post #157 » by **will** » Thu May 16, 2024 1:03 pm

Mak wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:
mrdressup wrote:One doesn't bring you much defensive intensity and the other is always injured come playoffs. Nothing has changed under the Sun. Cheering for NY, because Brunson is a just a great basketball player who refuses to lose. He was cast in Kyle Lowry's mold and improved upon.

OG has been injured a lot, yes. But it's incorrect to say he "always injured come playoffs. " He had appendicitis to miss the 2019 playoffs. Otherwise he's never missed a playoff game until the last 3 Pacers games. He played all 10 playoff games in 2018, all 10 in 2020, all 6 in 2022, the lone play-in in 2023, and 8 playoff games this year until he pulled the hamstring.

Don't forget the elbow injury. That will need surgery or something in the offseason.

[youtube]https://youtu.be/2QWQVm9J5DM?si=dz8mcDiKs9HTzO-K[/youtube]

Edit: Goddammit. I can't put in youtube links anymore after my full season ban?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Wanted to include Ludacris - Southern Hospitality for the "THROW DEM 'BOWS"

WaltFrazier · Post #158 » by **WaltFrazier** » Thu May 16, 2024 1:18 pm

Mak wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:
mrdressup wrote:One doesn't bring you much defensive intensity and the other is always injured come playoffs. Nothing has changed under the Sun. Cheering for NY, because Brunson is a just a great basketball player who refuses to lose. He was cast in Kyle Lowry's mold and improved upon.

OG has been injured a lot, yes. But it's incorrect to say he "always injured come playoffs. " He had appendicitis to miss the 2019 playoffs. Otherwise he's never missed a playoff game until the last 3 Pacers games. He played all 10 playoff games in 2018, all 10 in 2020, all 6 in 2022, the lone play-in in 2023, and 8 playoff games this year until he pulled the hamstring.

Don't forget the elbow injury. That will need surgery or something in the offseason.

I was only responding to the playoffs part, the incorrect claim he's always hurt in the playoffs.

But he already had elbow surgery in the season.

WaltFrazier · Post #159 » by **WaltFrazier** » Thu May 16, 2024 1:19 pm

will wrote:
Mak wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:OG has been injured a lot, yes. But it's incorrect to say he "always injured come playoffs. " He had appendicitis to miss the 2019 playoffs. Otherwise he's never missed a playoff game until the last 3 Pacers games. He played all 10 playoff games in 2018, all 10 in 2020, all 6 in 2022, the lone play-in in 2023, and 8 playoff games this year until he pulled the hamstring.

Don't forget the elbow injury. That will need surgery or something in the offseason.

[youtube]https://youtu.be/2QWQVm9J5DM?si=dz8mcDiKs9HTzO-K[/youtube]

Edit: Goddammit. I can't put in youtube links anymore after my full season ban?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Reinstated but with certain conditions? :lol:

Ask your parole officer. :lol:

WaltFrazier · Post #160 » by **WaltFrazier** » Thu May 16, 2024 1:20 pm

will wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:
mrdressup wrote:One doesn't bring you much defensive intensity and the other is always injured come playoffs. Nothing has changed under the Sun. Cheering for NY, because Brunson is a just a great basketball player who refuses to lose. He was cast in Kyle Lowry's mold and improved upon.

OG has been injured a lot, yes. But it's incorrect to say he "always injured come playoffs. " He had appendicitis to miss the 2019 playoffs. Otherwise he's never missed a playoff game until the last 3 Pacers games. He played all 10 playoff games in 2018, all 10 in 2020, all 6 in 2022, the lone play-in in 2023, and 8 playoff games this year until he pulled the hamstring.

Also, consider the seasons where the Raptors missed the playoffs (Playoffs? PLAYOFFS?!?!?!?!) outright.

Yup, Tampa. He would have been healthy.