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Chomche is taking place in the scrimmage. Good chance for him to prove me wrong. Also on the same team as Watkins and Mogbo! Should be interesting. Also, didn't realize JT Toppin was still in...hmm
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WuTang_OG wrote:
That's how I have always viewed this draft class.
I actually think it's a good draft class. Lots of interesting prospects. It actually seems deep to me.
It's just not a good draft class for tanking teams. Not many superstars (if any).
I think there are lots of quality players after 10 & into the second round.
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grant101 wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:I don’t know man, I think at this point we need to go with high value role player types at both picks. Build the squad overall, but keep the team young enough to be bad enough for a good pick next year.
I’m talking about guys with 8+ BPM who don’t always do things that show up statistically but are advanced stat darlings. The Lowry archetype.
Devin Carter
Tyler Kolek
Jared McCain
DaRon Holmes
Baylor Scheierman
Oso Ighodaro
Jamal Shead
Cam Spencer
Antonio Reeves (7 bpm but he’s really good)
If we were to luck out of this draft with a combination of Carter/Kolek/McCain and Holmes/Ighodaro/Reeves I will die a happy man.
I like the list above, but worry about Kolek sticking given size, defence and athleticism concerns and am just not a fan of Oso at all. Other than that - solid.
Some of my favourites: Jamir Watkins had a BPM of 9.1, Alex Karaban 9.2, Mogbo 11.1. Nique Clifford just missed the cut at 8.9, and Tyon Grant-Foster at 7.7.
Oso fits our playing style really well & he is very mobile/ althletic. Stylistically, he reminds me of a smaller but more mobile Poeltl. He's a guy that can come in & contribute right away. A guy that does all the little things to help a team win games..
I hope they can pick him up somehow. Maybe buy a pick from another team?
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grant101 wrote:REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:grant101 wrote:
DaRon Holmes. The kid can ball. We can't afford to whiff on projects with low feel and questionable ceilings.
Da'Ron is a very smart and cool kid I like his whole attitude and vibe he's very high character. I like his fit in OKC with Chip Engelland capable of possibly helping boost his shooting %s which would be massive.
Woah! You think OKC takes Holmes at #12?! I mean, I would get it (I have Holmes well over the other C's - Filipowski, Edey, Ware, Chomche, etc.), but that's a bold take. I like it. Holmes is already a decent shooter and finisher, but I have no doubt both improve even more given his work ethic. He's turned himself from a run-dunk roll man into such a well-rounded player - improving each year. I might sound crazy, but I see a little Al Horford in his game.
In any case, if this does happen, maybe McCain or Collier drop?
I don't know but that's where I have him just because Chip Engelland is one of the best shooting coaches in the league and if Da'Ron starts shooting it well he could be something valuable. Da'Ron is also one of the best weakside shotblockers in the draft and I just like his basketball character and he's toolsy. Maybe 12 is a bit rich but I don't think he should go outside of the top 20. He carried an entire program on his shoulders just like TJD who was overlooked last year.
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MEDIC wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:
That's how I have always viewed this draft class.
I actually think it's a good draft class. Lots of interesting prospects. It actually seems deep to me.
It's just not a good draft class for tanking teams. Not many superstars (if any).
I think there are lots of quality players after 10 & into the second round.
like most bad drafts, would not be surprised if some of the better careers come later in the draft. players will get underrated in this draft.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Also the combine scrimmages don't mean much even though they're fun, I'd look more at workout footage. Matas Buzelis actually looked really good in some recent workout footage, just stronger and more agile, decisive in his movements. It gives hope that he can apply it in-game soon and I might really have to reconsider having him where I do.
Last year Amari Bailey destroyed the scrimmages and his legacy will simply be the child of the woman Drake was banging.
Last year Amari Bailey destroyed the scrimmages and his legacy will simply be the child of the woman Drake was banging.
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Best case scenario for next season is making the play-in and then winning the lottery for a top 3 pick. That means your young players grew and you have a legit shot at a very good player who can change your teams fortunes.
I don't think we want this team to be Detroit bad and end up with a higher pick like they did
I don't think we want this team to be Detroit bad and end up with a higher pick like they did
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Would love to know Devin Carter's wingspan
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Zach Edey combine measurement is omg level.
I knew he was big but damn
I knew he was big but damn
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MEDIC wrote:grant101 wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:I don’t know man, I think at this point we need to go with high value role player types at both picks. Build the squad overall, but keep the team young enough to be bad enough for a good pick next year.
I’m talking about guys with 8+ BPM who don’t always do things that show up statistically but are advanced stat darlings. The Lowry archetype.
Devin Carter
Tyler Kolek
Jared McCain
DaRon Holmes
Baylor Scheierman
Oso Ighodaro
Jamal Shead
Cam Spencer
Antonio Reeves (7 bpm but he’s really good)
If we were to luck out of this draft with a combination of Carter/Kolek/McCain and Holmes/Ighodaro/Reeves I will die a happy man.
I like the list above, but worry about Kolek sticking given size, defence and athleticism concerns and am just not a fan of Oso at all. Other than that - solid.
Some of my favourites: Jamir Watkins had a BPM of 9.1, Alex Karaban 9.2, Mogbo 11.1. Nique Clifford just missed the cut at 8.9, and Tyon Grant-Foster at 7.7.
Oso fits our playing style really well & he is very mobile/ althletic. Stylistically, he reminds me of a smaller but more mobile Poeltl. He's a guy that can come in & contribute right away. A guy that does all the little things to help a team win games..
I hope they can pick him up somehow. Maybe buy a pick from another team?
You're asking the wrong guy. I see a Zeke Nnaji clone with less shooting. Too small and soft to play center in the league and a his lack of a jumper kills spacing. Not for me
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grant101 wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:I don’t know man, I think at this point we need to go with high value role player types at both picks. Build the squad overall, but keep the team young enough to be bad enough for a good pick next year.
I’m talking about guys with 8+ BPM who don’t always do things that show up statistically but are advanced stat darlings. The Lowry archetype.
Devin Carter
Tyler Kolek
Jared McCain
DaRon Holmes
Baylor Scheierman
Oso Ighodaro
Jamal Shead
Cam Spencer
Antonio Reeves (7 bpm but he’s really good)
If we were to luck out of this draft with a combination of Carter/Kolek/McCain and Holmes/Ighodaro/Reeves I will die a happy man.
I like the list above, but worry about Kolek sticking given size, defence and athleticism concerns and am just not a fan of Oso at all. Other than that - solid.
Some of my favourites: Jamir Watkins had a BPM of 9.1, Alex Karaban 9.2, Mogbo 11.1. Nique Clifford just missed the cut at 8.9, and Tyon Grant-Foster at 7.7.
I tend to agree with you. I can see Kolek and/or Ighodaro being overrated because two solid NBA players on the same team should give better results.
I also agree with guys like Watkins, and TFG. I just think TFG is more of a mid-late 2nd solely because of age, because his production is first round pick worthy.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Dillingham is going to drop with those measurements
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Karanpal wrote:Dillingham is going to drop with those measurements
I doubt it. He’s probably top 5 no matter what. I’m betting on the Spurs at 4 because Dilly and Wemby is a problem.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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I’d be cool with Watkins + Mogbo, then try to get a back up PG and defensive backup C in FA or in a Bruce Brown trade
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deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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BoyzNTheHood wrote:There’s no way, right?
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Yikes! Still think he goes onto become a solid player, but the size with the shooting challenges hurts
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You knew Castle's height was exaggerated but that low is going to kill his value.
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