Woj: P.J. Tucker to Raptors for Jared Sullinger and 2017/2018 second-round picks

T-d0t · Post #841 » by **T-d0t** » Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:57 pm

Scott Hall wrote:

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symbolic right there

StopitLeo · Post #842 » by **StopitLeo** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:15 am

Kurtz wrote:
Cool-Hand-Luke wrote:
StopitLeo wrote:
Yup. When our team weakness was rebounding, as it had been for years, he took Tucker instead of Millsap who had led the NCAA in rebounding for three straight years.

Lots of folks passed on Millsap. I don't remember that far back but getting picked 47th must have its reasons. Did he have a bad workout?

I think he was considered a tweener, like Draymond.

He was indeed. A 6'7” PF makes people question what position he will play in the league. He came out of college as a monster rebounder who could overpower smaller guys in the post. He had a decent offensive game in college but there were questions whether it would translate as a 3 or if he could be successful as a small 4.

Nevertheless, if your team sucks at rebounding you should draft a guy who is known for being an elite rebounder.

Boogie! · Post #843 » by **Boogie!** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:22 am

Moose23 wrote:
Boogie! wrote:
RaptorsFTL wrote:We did add spacing. Ibaka shoots it better from distance than Terrence.

people still dont look at the nuances and subtle differences within the flow of the game... yes, technically ibaka is shooting a higher percentage than terrence ross... hes also shooting a lower volume... and hes also not the same TYPE of shooter that ross is... ibaka will benefit from getting wide open looks in the flow of the offense... unfortunately, OUR OFFENSE DOESNT GET A LOT OF THESE LOOKS. we have guys that like to pound the rock and waste shot clock and hunt their own shot down... terrence ross (and the guy i advocated for in nick young) are catch and shoot guys with no conscience... they need little room, you can run them off screens to get catch and shoot 3s, and they only need an inch of room to get their shot off... they dont need to be wide open and they can bail you out last minute if the offense gets stagnant. ibaka is not that guy. he can shoot 3s, yes, and if we were a great ball movement team, with great court vision and had a versatile offense that was precise and can pick you apart, then id agree, ibaka is a great fit no questions asked. but thats not our identity offensively. if were looking to add a 3 point shooter, were looking for a guy that fits in, in spite of our identity; which is blue collar, dribble drive, attack, pass out last minute ONLY IF THERES NO OTHER OPTION. we need those "no other option" shooters on our team, which is not who tucker or ibaka are.

Its the same thing with Carroll.

I still believe Carroll is a very solid player, great glue type of guy that a great team needs.....problem from day 1 was Carroll came from great team basketball in Atlanta to our ball hogging Iso ball, your shot , then my shot, then my shot, then your shot, then my shot, then one of the other 3 guys shot, then your shot basketball.

exactly. thats why i wasnt a huge fan of the signing from day 1. its not that carroll is necessarily a bad player, but hes not a great fit here. the fact that they tried actually making him more of an offensive player, and ran plays for him to create when he first got here was such a dumb idea. but carroll has a particular set of skills that is great on a team like atlanta, not so much here... also, his defense is a bit overrated. so if he was a legitimate defensive stopper, hed be a BETTER fit than he currently is, but because hes not, combined with his limited offensive game and role with the team, he just looks horrible and useless from game to game.

Noobslife · Post #844 » by **Noobslife** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 3:49 am

Man....it was just one game, but I love this trade so much already

bokbok · Post #845 » by **bokbok** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 3:50 am

what was a bigger steal, cousins for hield or pj tucker for sullinger?

primopastalove2 · Post #846 » by **primopastalove2** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 3:55 am

No doubt in my mind PJ will become the new biyombo on this board for very good reasons, I don't even want to think what would happen to this board if we let him go during FA like we did Biz.

LoveMyRaps · Post #847 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:00 am

Should PJ be starting over Carroll?

Syd-TK3 · Post #848 » by **Syd-TK3** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:32 am

Masai with another steal

Clementine64 · Post #849 » by **Clementine64** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 4:43 am

If this is how he plays every night id have gladly given a first for him. The guy has more heart than the entire organization combined.

NinjaBro · Post #850 » by **NinjaBro** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:02 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:Should PJ be starting over Carroll?

Carroll only played 28 minutes tonight. Tucker 29 :nod:

It's happening...soon.

teamLeiweke · Post #851 » by **teamLeiweke** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:03 am

teamLeiweke wrote:I love you, Masai.

Raptorfan2012 · Post #852 » by **Raptorfan2012** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:16 am

Guy suited up without any sleep and looks pump as hell - yup that looks like a guy who doesn't want to be here....

bboyskinnylegs · Post #853 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:21 am

bokbok wrote:what was a bigger steal, cousins for hield or pj tucker for sullinger?

not fair to compare our deal with the Pelicans/Kings swapping superstars.

Psubs · Post #854 » by **Psubs** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:40 am

primopastalove2 wrote:No doubt in my mind PJ will become the new biyombo on this board for very good reasons, I don't even want to think what would happen to this board if we let him go during FA like we did Biz.

What if someone offers him $17 million a year....

Scott Hall · Post #855 » by **Scott Hall** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 5:53 am

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Kabookalu · Post #856 » by **Kabookalu** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:50 am

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This continues to show why Masai inherited BC's team :lol:

orbesnet · Post #857 » by **orbesnet** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:10 pm

Solid first outing.

Little Mule returns.

Mikistan · Post #858 » by **Mikistan** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:15 pm

Choker wrote:
Scott Hall wrote:

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This continues to show why Masai inherited BC's team

sigh we posted that pick in this forum days ago hes just stealing our stuff shm

Xaos · Post #859 » by **Xaos** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:20 pm

Love P.J. Tucker!

Favorite Raptor right now. Going to buy me a #2 Raptors Jersey. Great pickup my Masai!

[SJJ] · Post #860 » by **[SJJ]** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:18 pm

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