2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 4

[Tripod]

Taking Edey at 19 and having him learn from Yak the next few years would be great for his development and then eventually replace Yak.

[OakleyDokely]

Teams in the top 5, other than maybe ATL should really consider moving down if the opportunity is there. In no world is Clingan worth a 2nd overall pick in any draft. Is he even going to be able to close games shooting 55% from the line?

[Dyehardrapsfan]

Best player available who is not a small forward power forward.

Barnes,Dick, Barrett, Olynk are solid for those positions.

[Tofubeque]

Best player available who is not a small forward power forward.

Barnes,Dick, Barrett, Olynk are solid for those positions.

I could just as well say they're a small ball C, 2 SGs and another C.

This core badly needs a 3&D guy with size next to Scottie. RJ and Gradey we're hoping could be league average defenders, someday.

[PoundTown]

Best player available who is not a small forward power forward.

Barnes,Dick, Barrett, Olynk are solid for those positions.

I could just as well say they're a small ball C, 2 SGs and another C.

This core badly needs a 3&D guy with size next to Scottie. RJ and Gradey we're hoping could be league average defenders, someday.

Agreed, need something in the mould of OG.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Best player available who is not a small forward power forward.

Barnes,Dick, Barrett, Olynk are solid for those positions.

I could just as well say they're a small ball C, 2 SGs and another C.

This core badly needs a 3&D guy with size next to Scottie. RJ and Gradey we're hoping could be league average defenders, someday.

Agreed, need something in the mould of OG.

Draft Dunn and hope he develops a 3? There isn’t a lot to go on besides hope for the shot, but the defense is ELITE!

[Psubs]

I could just as well say they're a small ball C, 2 SGs and another C.

This core badly needs a 3&D guy with size next to Scottie. RJ and Gradey we're hoping could be league average defenders, someday.

Agreed, need something in the mould of OG.

Draft Dunn and hope he develops a 3? There isn’t a lot to go on besides hope for the shot, but the defense is ELITE!

Draft JT Toppin. Toppin is still 18 while Dunn is already 21. Isn't Dunn just Ausur Thompson 2 years from now?

[PoundTown]

Agreed, need something in the mould of OG.

Draft Dunn and hope he develops a 3? There isn’t a lot to go on besides hope for the shot, but the defense is ELITE!

Draft JT Toppin. Toppin is still 18 while Dunn is already 21. Isn't Dunn just Ausur Thompson 2 years from now?

I'm definitely on the JT Toppin as hidden gem of this draft bandwagon. I like him a lot. Motor is a skill we often overlook.

[Dalek]

Even Givony is rocking my Nembhard comp for Ajay Mitchell. He is going to be a good player. I am almost certain of it.

Ajay Mitchell, PG, UC Santa Barbara: Mitchell only scored five points, but set the tone for his team from the opening tip with his unselfish ball movement and excellent vision operating out of pick-and-roll, generating seven assists in 21 minutes. He made several impressive reads manipulating the defense with his handle, pace and creativity, whipping touch passes to get his teammates easy baskets to help build a 30-point lead. He also used his size (6-foot-4 1/2 in shoes) and strong frame to pressure the ball the length of the floor and make things difficult on opponents, displaying important qualities NBA teams look for when seeking backup point guard candidates in the Andrew Nembhard mold. After an injury-riddled junior season at Santa Barbara, Mitchell (who ranks No. 51 in our top 100) needed a strong combine showing to solidify his standing and could continue to help himself by showing more perimeter shooting prowess than scouts have seen. -- Givony

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/page/NBADraft24-40145332/2024-nba-draft-combine-prospects-workout-highlights-measurements-stats-more

[Rapsfan07]

We aren't going to be filling the OG hole in this draft and I don't want us wasting a pick trying to do so.

All we need to do here to have a productive draft is pick two guys who have the highest chance at being rotation guys - anything other than that is icing on the cake. We don't need to take a big swing.

Here's how I see the lottery shaking out:

Top 5
1. Hawks - Sarr
2. Wizards - Clingan
3. Rockets - Risacher
4. Spurs - Topic/Dillingham
5. Pistons - Buzelis
6. Hornets - Holland/Castle
7. Blazers - Holland/Williams/Trade
8. Spurs - Topic/Williams
9. Grizzlies - Sheppard/Trade
10. Jazz - Collier/McCain
11. Bulls - Filipowski/Knecht/Salaun
12. Thunder - McCain/Knecht
13. Kings - McCain/Collier/Knecht
14. Blazers - Salaun

The one guy I'm fairly certain will be on the board at #19 is JaKobe Walter while Carter has a chance to sneak in the back end of the lottery. I also think Edey has a chance to go late lottery to the Thunder but if not, he won't be taken in the lotto at all.

I'd be surprised if Carter gets passed Miami and Ware could go as early as #17 to the Pels.

If this happens, I think you just take Holmes at #19 and be done with the first round. Hopefully Sallis and Simpson are still on the board at #31, though Minny will probably be looking for a PG at #28.

I expect to see a ton of trades as well.

[DG88]

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I think he goes 2 to Wizards

Honestly he would be a culture setter for them. Adding a guy who knows how to win, who brings the Hurley mentality to the locker room would have a positive impact on the team at large and especially Coulibaly. Also he would dramatically improve their interior D. Their team is so pathetic that adding him would make them at least somewhat respectable in the short term while not entirely bumping them into the top 22-24 teams in the league so they'll still be in play for the elite guys in 2025 and 2026.

We have to remember that Clingan is no ordinary interior defender, he is very stout and very long and is still developing in many regards.

Only thing to consider when it comes to bigs in general is that they are more like NFL RBs and can be more easily replaced, but do any of the wings show the level of feel/proficiency that he does? Also there is injury risk with guys who are that size and aren't light on their feet so it's always a riskier proposition and that applies to Edey too but sometimes you just cross your fingers and hope for the best.

[OAKLEY_2]

We aren't going to be filling the OG hole in this draft and I don't want us wasting a pick trying to do so.

All we need to do here to have a productive draft is pick two guys who have the highest chance at being rotation guys - anything other than that is icing on the cake. We don't need to take a big swing.

Here's how I see the lottery shaking out:

Top 5
1. Hawks - Sarr
2. Wizards - Clingan
3. Rockets - Risacher
4. Spurs - Topic/Dillingham
5. Pistons - Buzelis
6. Hornets - Holland/Castle
7. Blazers - Holland/Williams/Trade
8. Spurs - Topic/Williams
9. Grizzlies - Sheppard/Trade
10. Jazz - Collier/McCain
11. Bulls - Filipowski/Knecht/Salaun
12. Thunder - McCain/Knecht
13. Kings - McCain/Collier/Knecht
14. Blazers - Salaun

The one guy I'm fairly certain will be on the board at #19 is JaKobe Walter while Carter has a chance to sneak in the back end of the lottery. I also think Edey has a chance to go late lottery to the Thunder but if not, he won't be taken in the lotto at all.

I'd be surprised if Carter gets passed Miami and Ware could go as early as #17 to the Pels.

If this happens, I think you just take Holmes at #19 and be done with the first round. Hopefully Sallis and Simpson are still on the board at #31, though Minny will probably be looking for a PG at #28.

I expect to see a ton of trades as well.

Carrington at #19 hands down followed by JaKobe Walter then Edey.

Commentary about JaKobe Walter in his Freshman record breaking debut:

“I’ve been around Baylor basketball for a while, I don’t remember a coaching staff and teammates rave about a young man’s intangibles, character, work ethic… obviously a great talent.”

"Speaking of characteristics, Ja’Kobe looked completely unafraid. Unafraid of the moment (being his debut), unafraid of taking the shot and lastly, unafraid of attacking the paint even when it didn’t work out for him a moment ago."

Some are saying at some point Carrington would clash with Scottie in terms of "who is the man" abd ball dominance aka Freddie but Scottie loves to distribute and JaKobe is certainly a strong off ball player.

Where a two guard selection leaves Agbaji is probably, at best, a placeholder back-up to RJ.

[elmer_yuck]

If I’m San Antonio, I’m taking Edey at #8.
Two giants with ridiculous wingspans.

[TimeForChange]

Masai and Bobby were definitely here

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Been saying that he can translate to a Zubac type of impact in the NBA. But one thing that impresses me for a guy his size is his durability. Moves well for a guy of his stature. If he is somehow there at 19, TOR will take him but I think OKC will snag him

[BoyzNTheHood]

Agreed, need something in the mould of OG.

Draft Dunn and hope he develops a 3? There isn’t a lot to go on besides hope for the shot, but the defense is ELITE!

Draft JT Toppin. Toppin is still 18 while Dunn is already 21. Isn't Dunn just Ausur Thompson 2 years from now?

Toppin at 31 wouldn’t be a bad option

[PoundTown]

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Been saying that he can translate to a Zubac type of impact in the NBA. But one thing that impresses me for a guy his size is his durability. Moves well for a guy of his stature. If he is somehow there at 19, TOR will take him but I think OKC will snag him

OKC really does have the perfect fit with Holmgren beside him. Have Chet finish the game at 5, but protect him largely leading up to then. Edey, may be able to be effective in drop coverage the way a Zubac is, especially if they can play him for shorter periods of time out there. I never thought he'd get to the point with his strength and conditioning he is now; can't underestimate this kids drive and willingness to improve.

[C_Money]

I could just as well say they're a small ball C, 2 SGs and another C.

This core badly needs a 3&D guy with size next to Scottie. RJ and Gradey we're hoping could be league average defenders, someday.

Agreed, need something in the mould of OG.

Draft Dunn and hope he develops a 3? There isn’t a lot to go on besides hope for the shot, but the defense is ELITE!

I am so sick of these type of players. We have an offensive minded coach now. Let’s move away from the non-skilled defender types.

Besides we already have Agbaji in this role.

[Mark_83]

Interesting numbers if you put much stock in athletic testing.

Devin Carter:
3rd in lane agility (10.63 sec)
1st in 3/4 sprint (2.87 sec)
Tied 1st in standing vertical (35 inches)
Tied 1st in max vertical (42 inches)
+6.5 ft wingspan

He is a really good athlete, but I also believed in Davion Mitchell too. I wonder how he compares.

I'm not sure Davion is a good comp for Carter. Their games are very different, other than both having a reputation as good defenders.

Davion was never an elite athlete and was also strictly a PG in size, while Carter is tall and long enough that he can guard 2s and some 3s as well.

Mitchell:
6'0" w/o shoes
6'1.25" with shoes
Carter:
6'2.25" w/o shoes
6'3.5" with shoes
Mitchell:
6'4.25" wingspan
Carter:
6'8.75" wingspan

My closest physical and/or athletic comps for Carter, that also takes account of playing style, are Norman Powell and Donovan Mitchell. All three are smaller but highly athletic guards with a rep for defense.

Devin Carter:
(Draft age: 22.1)
6'2.25" without shoes
6'3.5" with shoes
6'8.75" wingspan
Lane agility 10.63 seconds
3/4 sprint 2.87 seconds
Standing vertical 35 inches
Max vertical 42 inches

Powell:
(Draft age: 22.1)
6'3" without shoes
6'4.25" with shoes
6'10.75" wingspan
Lane agility 10.69
3/4 sprint 3.20 seconds
Standing vertical 32.5 inches
Max vertical 40.5 inches

Mitchell:
(Draft age: 20.8)
6'1.25" without shoes
6'3" with shoes
6'10" wingspan
Lane agility 11.53 seconds
3/4 sprint 3.01 seconds
Standing vertical 36.5 inches
Max vertical 40.5 inches