Double Helix wrote:Phenomenologist wrote:Double Helix wrote:Right, because being bothered about the fact that a fan site that was specifically created to be one of the few places online where Raptors fans can discuss their favorite team without being trolled is McCarthyism.
By the way, insult me again by calling me a moron or worse and you'll find out exactly what it's like to lose your freedom of speech. Terms of service, friendo. This place does still have some rules.
I didn't call you a moron; I implied that you were one.
And, look, as a guy that was a former mod on a message board, I know a thing or two about wasting one's time. However, I just can't imagine any bigger waste of time than signing up for a fan site, and posting nothing but reasons why I dislike a certain band, vehicle, TV show, or movie franchise associated with that site.
This isn't politics. Your city, province, and country aren't at stake here. If you don't like what's being offered up there are other service offerings available to you throughout the association. Again, I ask... if you hate everything that's happening with this team RIGHT NOW -- not before, RIGHT NOW -- then why are you still "supporting" this team? What kind of backwards loyalty is that? I hate the Corvettes that Chevrolet has been making... HATE THEM! But I am a fan of Corvette because I liked the model that came out in the late 90s and early 00s. So, I go to the Corvette car shows and boo the new corvettes that are unveiled. I ask people why they're enjoying their new corvettes. I list all the reasons why I don't like the new corvettes because I want everybody to see why I don't like them. I point out all the reasons why I think Lamborghini is better than the new Corvettes. This seems like something a logical-thinking person would do? This is what trolls do.
Lol, what a nonsensical thing to say. You're essentially arbitrarily determining the degree to which I'm permitted to be fanatical. For you, it has to be unfiltered optimism, cherry-picked stats (that, shockingly, have small sample size
prefaces every time, essentially invalidating all the "work" you do re: finding trends) ... lemonade out of lemons etc. And, apparently, that is the only acceptable form of fandom.
You know what's illogical? Presuming that someone else is voluntarily partaking of something that they hate because
you hate it.
That is illogical. By definition, I get something out of this if I'm doing it. But, more, I think my view is quite defensible. I hate BC and have since almost the beginning; and I've been called a troll since, well, all the way back then. Now, as others have come around to his gross incompetence, I'm less pariah and more representative of at least A mainstream view on this board. But that's irrelevant to me.
My position hasn't changed because BC remains incompetent and he remains here. As many others have said, complaining about your franchise, acknowledging how incompetent they are, etc. WHILE STILL BEING A FAN OF THEM AND STILL ULTIMATELY SUPPORTING THEM ... how could there be any
higher form of fandom? I mean, according to your world view, they are doing everything right. So what's the big deal, you're supporting something that you agree with ... well, unless the implication is that you're supporting them DESPITE incompetence while trying to frame said incompetence as non-incompetence. Sigh ... even you must see how inconsistent you're being.
And, for the record, I don't hate everything about this franchise. I hate BC and, relatedly, I dislike many of our players, but I also quite like some of our players, enjoy watching the games and, generally, have the kind of irrational allegiance to my hometown's team that anyone has. I like following our team, because watching something grow that you supported through it's tougher times is rewarding to me, obviously. But it's hard to have that kind of hope when the franchise is being "grown" by someone who could be replaced by a chair without loss.
And it's hella ironic that you would call my form of fandom illogical given your own. But things like irony are probably lost on someone as delusional as yourself.