Houston readying full-court press for Bosh

[neurotik]

Bosh and Amare score in two completely different ways. I'm not sure how you can say if you swap the two that one would succeed while the other would get worse.

Bosh is a jump shooter whos shot opens up options to drive and draw the foul. Amare just dunks everything in sight on pick and rolls and cuts to the basket.

Bosh, like Amare, is very effective in the pick and roll (which Phoenix uses 80% of the time). The big difference I would see is that Bosh would simply go to the foul line more than Amare. The points would still be there.

[LarsV8]

Regarding Alabi, yeah, he doesn't seem bad. His shared ethnicity with Hakeem can't hurt...maybe the Rockets can convince Hakeem to work full-time as a player-development coach for Alabi

I dont think the Rox are in love with Alabi, its just Udoh, Whiteside and Orton are probably all gone by the time we pick, and as you know a back up center is a priority.

It doesnt matter though, Morey always picks a guy we never would of guessed and then ends up looking like a genius. You should of seen our boards after Landry/Brooks were picked instead of big baby. People were livid.

[Rhettmatic]

Bosh and Amare score in two completely different ways. I'm not sure how you can say if you swap the two that one would succeed while the other would get worse.

Bosh is a jump shooter whos shot opens up options to drive and draw the foul. Amare just dunks everything in sight on pick and rolls and cuts to the basket.

Bosh scores 54 per cent of his points on jumpshots.
Amare scores 51 per cent of his points on jumpshots.

http://www.82games.com/0910/09TOR13.HTM
http://www.82games.com/0910/09PHO11.HTM

It doesn't seem like you really know Amare that well.

[Courtside]

Rhett, that's accurate for this season, but over their careers there his been a slightly larger disparity. Jump shots in previous seasons recorded on 82games (didn't count 05-06 since he only played 50 minutes)

06-07:
Amare: 45%
Chris: 59%

07-08:
Amare: 55%
Chris: 58%

08-09:
Amare: 55%
Chris: 64%

Skeebs has been all over the base with silly comments and is equally as biased against Chris as the flossers are for him. I wonder whose siht disturbing double account he is?

That said - the question about whether Houston would be better of with Amare is a good one when you look at the bigger picture. There's not a lot to differentiate the two and it really comes down to how you think they would fit, what they'll cost you (both salary + assets) and finally, how you project they'll hold up physically.

Amare has had a history of injury that exceeds that of Chris, but since his surgery in 06 has been pretty reliable. Chris has never missed as many games in a season as Amare has in his two worst, but it seems to be increasing every season and seems to happen with regularity after the All Star break. The brace is a concern as he seems to be losing quicks and lift, while Amare is like a pogo stick a lot of the time.

Amare could be had for less, both from an outright signing standpoint and from a trade asset standpoint - so the question is does Chris really give you that much more or fit that much better, considering the higher cost attached? Houston must really like what their talent evaluators are projecting with him in the line up. I do think their roster and playing style is a better fit for Chris than we are. Conversely, I think Amare is a better fit for the Raptors roster and playing style.

[Skeebs]

Bosh and Amare score in two completely different ways. I'm not sure how you can say if you swap the two that one would succeed while the other would get worse.

Bosh is a jump shooter whos shot opens up options to drive and draw the foul. Amare just dunks everything in sight on pick and rolls and cuts to the basket.

Bosh scores 54 per cent of his points on jumpshots.
Amare scores 51 per cent of his points on jumpshots.

http://www.82games.com/0910/09TOR13.HTM
http://www.82games.com/0910/09PHO11.HTM

It doesn't seem like you really know Amare that well.

I dont think you've seen amare and chris bosh play if you think amare is a jump shooter like chris. CB took it more to the rack this year because it was a contract year. it was a career year for CB. Amare has been doing it his entire time in the nba he didnt need a contract year to take it to the rim consistently.

[Skeebs]

Skeebs has been all over the base with silly comments and is equally as biased against Chris as the flossers are for him. I wonder whose siht disturbing double account he is?

Silly comments? Double account? Dude I used to love CB his first 3 years in the league. Then he didnt do crap afterwards and was pissed we made this rupaul of bigman our franchise. He hasnt gotten any better since his 3rd year. Maybe even his second.

In fact he used to have a sweet jump stroke until he changed it for whatever reason.

Just because I dont like CB4 doesnt make me a hater, I'm just a realist. Amare is better than him and wont even command the max, and CB thinks hes entitled to it because he led this team to one 47 win season in 7 years.

[Reignman]

Is this a joke?

Both Amare/Bosh play the PnR except for the **** MAJOR fact that Amare plays with one of the greatest PnR point guards in NBA history.

GTFO here with this garbage.

You put Chris Bosh in a PnR sequence with Steve Nash and his game would look completely different.

Are people just arguing garbage for the sake of it?

[RocLaFamilia]

Is this a joke?

Both Amare/Bosh play the PnR except for the **** MAJOR fact that Amare plays with one of the greatest PnR point guards in NBA history.

GTFO here with this garbage.

You put Chris Bosh in a PnR sequence with Steve Nash and his game would look completely different.

Are people just arguing garbage for the sake of it?

Yeah its the same point I make with Rondo, take the future HOF away from them and see how good they are then.

[aznkillabeezZz]

turkoglu plays better with a dominating center, like howard or maybe yao. But Toronto totally over paid him. i dont think hes going to be part of the deal. Bosh will come to Houston with the draft picks +Hill and expirings Battier, and Jeffries imo. And Battier should stay in Toronto. And why does toronto seem to overpay for all their finesse players? Even bargnani is paid alot, but at least he's young.

[Skeebs]

Bosh doesnt play the pick and roll, he plays the pick and pop. Or at least he used to, now its all iso all the time.

[ansoncarter]

bosh is the better iso scorer but he'd never be the pick/roll player amare is. He's not as reactive/instinctual/whatever as amare is and doesn't hands like amare and doesn't finish like amare

he's a better fit in houston though imo. Pretty sure houston will be one of those teams that just takes turns iso'ing players. Bosh is a way better iso threat than amare

[Guy986]

bosh is the better iso scorer but he'd never be the pick/roll player amare is. He's not as reactive/instinctual/whatever as amare is and doesn't hands like amare and doesn't finish like amare

he's a better fit in houston though imo. Pretty sure houston will be one of those teams that just takes turns iso'ing players. Bosh is a way better iso threat than amare

ehhhhh..... I certainly hope this isn't the case.

[Reignman]

Bosh doesnt play the pick and roll, he plays the pick and pop. Or at least he used to, now its all iso all the time.

Why do you think that is genius?

Do you really believe Bosh doesn't like to dunk the ball?

Give him a point guard that knows how to hit with a pass on the roll and he'd roll.

This is ridiculous, I feel like I'm talking with a bunch of newbies.

[Reignman]

Answer this, would Bosh be iso'ing every play or pick n popping if he played with Nash?

Now give your head a shake and go to bed.

[ansoncarter]

bosh is the better iso scorer but he'd never be the pick/roll player amare is. He's not as reactive/instinctual/whatever as amare is and doesn't hands like amare and doesn't finish like amare

he's a better fit in houston though imo. Pretty sure houston will be one of those teams that just takes turns iso'ing players. Bosh is a way better iso threat than amare

ehhhhh..... I certainly hope this isn't the case.

can't picture them having some kind of complex motion offence or something

they got aaron brooks at pg. And yao can pass a bit but last time I paid attention to them tmac was there and iirc they just took turns iso'ing

[Guy986]

bosh is the better iso scorer but he'd never be the pick/roll player amare is. He's not as reactive/instinctual/whatever as amare is and doesn't hands like amare and doesn't finish like amare

he's a better fit in houston though imo. Pretty sure houston will be one of those teams that just takes turns iso'ing players. Bosh is a way better iso threat than amare

ehhhhh..... I certainly hope this isn't the case.

can't picture them having some kind of complex motion offence or something

they got aaron brooks at pg. And yao can pass a bit but last time I paid attention to them tmac was there and iirc they just took turns iso'ing

Rick Adelman coached team has always had great ball movements. This year's Rockets was no exception. Just because they have a scoring PG doesn't mean they don't move the ball well. You don't need a great playmaker to run an offense smoothly. Aaron Brooks hold on to the ball waaaay less than someone like Derrick Rose for example.

Also i'll like to introduce you to Magic Hayes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upkTVPYb4i0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GG9r1RcEcM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88XGCLem ... re=related

[ansoncarter]

wow the raptors could use some of that

make sure chuck hayes is part of out trade package please

[c_mac11]

Bosh is a excellent shooter, he doesnt have to drive to score, sure it helps to put the other team in foul trouble if he drives more but if he's confident in his jumper let him shoot it

[kingmalaki]

bosh is the better iso scorer but he'd never be the pick/roll player amare is. He's not as reactive/instinctual/whatever as amare is and doesn't hands like amare and doesn't finish like amare

he's a better fit in houston though imo. Pretty sure houston will be one of those teams that just takes turns iso'ing players. Bosh is a way better iso threat than amare

ehhhhh..... I certainly hope this isn't the case.

can't picture them having some kind of complex motion offence or something

they got aaron brooks at pg. And yao can pass a bit but last time I paid attention to them tmac was there and iirc they just took turns iso'ing

Yao is actually a great passer for a big man. The Rockets ran nothing but motion this year. They ran into problems at the end of games because their best iso option was a sub 6 foot PG that's easy to trap.

[just23]

A future Knick draft pick ain't bad at all and I'm fine with the rest of those guys. I actually do like Ariza and while his contract is too much, we don't have much firepower on offense here. He could have a big year and be very good trade bait if it's decided that he isn't good enough to keep at that price. Hill is a solid young piece as well. I like the Houston deal. I like any deal that doesn't make us older.
Expirings don't mean as much to me. We aren't getting rid of the overpaid Euros here any time soon, so even with expirings we won't have the cap space to do anything anyway.