Pelley new MLSE boss, could be good for teams

HoopAndTheHarm · Post #81 » by **HoopAndTheHarm** » Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:15 am

Tannenbaum has really been the only force connecting with the various execs with each franchise while running interference for them with Bell and Rogers. When he goes (2026) and we are left with just Bell and Rogers as owners, Pelley will have marching orders to maximize profit, nothing else.
If there's one thing that both Bell and Rogers have figured out from their various business units, it's that they don't have to excel at anything or improve anything to turn record profits. They honestly don't even care how they are percieved by the public - see their layoffs announcements, etc. And no matter what Pelley may want, Bell and Rogers hold the purse strings and they are chomping at the bit to get Larry out of the way. While both enjoy having media rights over the various franshises, I honestly believe they see MLSE as much more of a real estate and intellectual property play.

MavCarter · Post #82 » by **MavCarter** » Thu Apr 11, 2024 12:00 pm

Why would you interview all 3 executives together? Outside of the main goal of winning they all have unique challenges and different circumstances. The Raptors are in a rebuild and the leafs are trying to win now. Masai and shanny can twiddle their thumb while tfc guy talks about their budget for the next 5 years

anotherhomer · Post #83 » by **anotherhomer** » Thu Apr 11, 2024 1:09 pm

don't underestimate that there's a team opening in Las Vegas potentially in 2026, that Ujiri could join

WuTang_OG · Post #84 » by **WuTang_OG** » Thu Apr 11, 2024 1:38 pm

MavCarter wrote:Why would you interview all 3 executives together? Outside of the main goal of winning they all have unique challenges and different circumstances. The Raptors are in a rebuild and the leafs are trying to win now. Masai and shanny can twiddle their thumb while tfc guy talks about their budget for the next 5 years

It was the ownership blocks (Bell/Rogers/Larry) that did separate interviews. If they didn't do follow up interviews as the entire board, that just confirms the divide in MLSE

WaltFrazier · Post #85 » by **WaltFrazier** » Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:01 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
MavCarter wrote:Why would you interview all 3 executives together? Outside of the main goal of winning they all have unique challenges and different circumstances. The Raptors are in a rebuild and the leafs are trying to win now. Masai and shanny can twiddle their thumb while tfc guy talks about their budget for the next 5 years

It was the ownership blocks (Bell/Rogers/Larry) that did separate interviews. If they didn't do follow up interviews as the entire board, that just confirms the divide in MLSE

I thought the poster meant an upcoming round table media interview that Pelley mentioned, with the execs of the different teams.

WuTang_OG · Post #86 » by **WuTang_OG** » Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:03 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
MavCarter wrote:Why would you interview all 3 executives together? Outside of the main goal of winning they all have unique challenges and different circumstances. The Raptors are in a rebuild and the leafs are trying to win now. Masai and shanny can twiddle their thumb while tfc guy talks about their budget for the next 5 years

It was the ownership blocks (Bell/Rogers/Larry) that did separate interviews. If they didn't do follow up interviews as the entire board, that just confirms the divide in MLSE

I thought the poster meant an upcoming round table media interview that Pelley mentioned, with the execs of the different teams.

When/where did he mention that?

WaltFrazier · Post #87 » by **WaltFrazier** » Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:35 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
It was the ownership blocks (Bell/Rogers/Larry) that did separate interviews. If they didn't do follow up interviews as the entire board, that just confirms the divide in MLSE

I thought the poster meant an upcoming round table media interview that Pelley mentioned, with the execs of the different teams.

When/where did he mention that?

A post on page 4 of this thread by Badabonk mentions a "Town Hall" meeting of Masai, Bobby, Shanahan, Pinball and others at Realsports. Maybe I misinterpreted it, maybe just a meeting not a media conference.

WuTang_OG · Post #88 » by **WuTang_OG** » Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:33 pm

WaltFrazier wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
WaltFrazier wrote:
I thought the poster meant an upcoming round table media interview that Pelley mentioned, with the execs of the different teams.

When/where did he mention that?

A post on page 4 of this thread by Badabonk mentions a "Town Hall" meeting of Masai, Bobby, Shanahan, Pinball and others at Realsports. Maybe I misinterpreted it, maybe just a meeting not a media conference.

That was just a gathering of the execs once Pelley got the job. I'm talking about the interview process when MLSE / Pelley got together to chat

WuTang_OG · Post #89 » by **WuTang_OG** » Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:58 pm

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/keith-pelley-on-his-new-role-as-president-ceo-of-mlse/id1518820915?i=1000653226240

Badonkadonk · Post #90 » by **Badonkadonk** » Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:40 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/keith-pelley-on-his-new-role-as-president-ceo-of-mlse/id1518820915?i=1000653226240

Thanks for posting, I forget to check out Bob's podcasts.

Hate to say it but his health issues really come across in his voice. Hope he's ok.

I guess I shouldn't expect him to spar with guests as much anymore, but was a little disappointed that the interview with Bob/John and Pelley was a love-fest. Doesn't help that John also worked for MLSE, the convo was set up for nostalgia.

WuTang_OG · Post #91 » by **WuTang_OG** » Fri May 17, 2024 4:26 pm

Read on Twitter

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Watch on YouTube

will · Post #92 » by **will** » Fri May 17, 2024 4:38 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Game recognize Game.

rapsrealm · Post #93 » by **rapsrealm** » Fri May 17, 2024 6:37 pm

anotherhomer wrote:don't underestimate that there's a team opening in Las Vegas potentially in 2026, that Ujiri could join

Tim Lieweke is involved with the Seattle franchise bid so there is a connection there.

ForeverTFC · Post #94 » by **ForeverTFC** » Fri May 17, 2024 6:48 pm

rapsrealm wrote:
anotherhomer wrote:don't underestimate that there's a team opening in Las Vegas potentially in 2026, that Ujiri could join

Tim Lieweke is involved with the Seattle franchise bid so there is a connection there.

Masai will have no shortage of options in '26 if/when he leaves. He can also easily go with Larry and his $2billion+ to Larry's fund if/when his stake is bought out by Bell and Rogers and buy up some more Soccer teams. Also don't forget that the sale will set a new price tag on the Raptors (after Larry already re-set the price earlier last year) which will result in a very nice payout for Masai in 2026.

Rogers and Bell win, Larry and Masai ultimately win, only we the fans lose as Rogers and Bell fight among each other on how best to screw all of us.

DreamTeam09 · Post #95 » by **DreamTeam09** » Fri May 17, 2024 6:54 pm

Why does everything lead with the worst possible outcome definitely happening around here

WaltFrazier · Post #96 » by **WaltFrazier** » Sat May 18, 2024 2:59 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Watch on YouTube

Listening to the second, longer link, I'm surprised how much he's still involved with Canada, and Hamilton specifically. And knowledgeable. I just assumed he'd left MLSE and Toronto behind and was focused on US only. I went to an NBA preseason at Copps back in the 80s, it was a good arena at the time. Interesting to hear how much they're spending to reno it, just for concerts, AHL, and potential games like Canada basketball, Raps exhibitions, WNBA exhibitions, etc.

Mack11 · Post #97 » by **Mack11** » Sat May 18, 2024 7:47 pm

I dont understand why its beneficial for management to just build a treadmill team like some of you are suggesting.. i mean wouldnt they make more money if they went to the finals or won it all? or am i missing something here

anotherhomer · Post #98 » by **anotherhomer** » Sat May 18, 2024 8:08 pm

Mack11 wrote:I dont understand why its beneficial for management to just build a treadmill team like some of you are suggesting.. i mean wouldnt they make more money if they went to the finals or won it all? or am i missing something here

it depends if Pelley has a 3 year or 10 year goal to meet certain objectives

For leafs, it's obvious that's playoff success
For raptors, it maybe to avoid a rebuild....

depends what the Rogers/Bell boss wants from him

Prestige · Post #99 » by **Prestige** » Sat May 18, 2024 8:08 pm

Mack11 wrote:I dont understand why its beneficial for management to just build a treadmill team like some of you are suggesting.. i mean wouldnt they make more money if they went to the finals or won it all? or am i missing something here

Because there’s no guarantee the team would be good or go deep in the playoffs. Odds are low you’d actually win it all despite paying the tax or investing in a quality coaching staff. So there may be a better ROI by fielding a ‘just-good-enough’ team that makes the play-in or playoffs consistently on a lower budget.

anotherhomer · Post #100 » by **anotherhomer** » Sat May 18, 2024 8:51 pm

Prestige wrote:
Mack11 wrote:I dont understand why its beneficial for management to just build a treadmill team like some of you are suggesting.. i mean wouldnt they make more money if they went to the finals or won it all? or am i missing something here

Because there’s no guarantee the team would be good or go deep in the playoffs. Odds are low you’d actually win it all despite paying the tax or investing in a quality coaching staff. So there may be a better ROI by fielding a ‘just-good-enough’ team that makes the play-in or playoffs consistently on a lower budget.

exactly....it's no sure thing to go on a multi-year tank