2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 4

[Indeed]

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basically a high end role /fringe all star type of player. not that bad if everyone else in the draft also suck (there is probably some outliers lurking in the draft that could possibly outplay the top lottery picks in this draft, career wise)

no franchise altering player in this draft it seems.

Draft is starting to look like the 2000 draft IMO. It's not going to produce many Allstars, the #1 pick is going to be very disappointing (Kenyon Martin). If there was ever a draft to give up a lottery pick it's the 2024 NBA draft. If we end up with a MoPete level starter that would be a win in my eyes.

We did exactly that, gave up the 2024 pick.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

BTW if Dillingham can safely be assumed to be a -2 on defense it means he would need to be a +6 on offense to be a legit low level all-star and historically it just doesn't happen with guys his size especially considering he's not a free throw merchant.

I get lower on Dillingham by the day. Maybe he'll impress casual fans but analytics will likely never view him as favorably as he's perceived.

I just really think he probably ends up what Tim Hardaway Jr. would be as a combo guard but better. It's still not a highly desirable outcome given the hype.

[ItsDanger]

Toronto officials are going with the “best available player” mantra at this point of the process, and that makes a lot of sense. But there are holes in the roster, as team president Masai Ujiri and general manager Bobby Webster have said publicly. All things considered, frontcourt size and a backup point guard are going to trump “best available player” when it comes to making their first selection at No. 19.

https://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/six-in-the-mix-for-the-raptors-at-no-19-in-the-nba-draft/article_0f44b7c8-12f1-11ef-a290-a344c6f16940.html

This draft will lean more towards fit than BPA. Teams will often have players in tiers, so especially in this kind of talent pool, the variance will be very low, so teams will give way more consideration to fit.

[XTC]

BTW if Dillingham can safely be assumed to be a -2 on defense it means he would need to be a +6 on offense to be a legit low level all-star and historically it just doesn't happen with guys his size especially considering he's not a free throw merchant.

I get lower on Dillingham by the day. Maybe he'll impress casual fans but analytics will likely never view him as favorably as he's perceived.

I just really think he probably ends up what Tim Hardaway Jr. would be as a combo guard but better. It's still not a highly desirable outcome given the hype.

Dillingham to me tops out as Maxey/IQ if everything goes right, but he could end up like Poole/Schroder as well, with obviously the potential to bust.

I'm actually pretty high on the kid, his archetype is pretty easy to project at the NBA level, it's just a question of if he can get a few elite skills to separate him from the pack and get him to near allstar level.

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BTW if Dillingham can safely be assumed to be a -2 on defense it means he would need to be a +6 on offense to be a legit low level all-star and historically it just doesn't happen with guys his size especially considering he's not a free throw merchant.

I get lower on Dillingham by the day. Maybe he'll impress casual fans but analytics will likely never view him as favorably as he's perceived.

I just really think he probably ends up what Tim Hardaway Jr. would be as a combo guard but better. It's still not a highly desirable outcome given the hype.

Dillingham to me tops out as Maxey/IQ if everything goes right, but he could end up like Poole/Schroder as well, with obviously the potential to bust.

I'm actually pretty high on the kid, his archetype is pretty easy to project at the NBA level, it's just a question of if he can get a few elite skills to separate him from the pack and get him to near allstar level.

Both those guys have better tools for defending. I think Dillingham's upside is heavily tied into his defensive ability and it's hard to not see him as one of the worst defenders in the league. Maybe he finds a way to not get abused but it's not something I'm willing to bet on early in the draft. He's so damn small.

[Dalek]

Same level as Jarace? C’mon man

Poeltl was drafted 9th, right? Siakam in the 20s'.

If y’all think Toppin is Siakam level I can’t help you. Siakam is an anomaly

Siakam really propelled himself in his soph season. Toppin is already in double-double territory and he wasn't even the Lobos primary option.

What I can say is that Toppin is just wildly productive seemingly in every game, and it is mostly instinctual.

Ultimately, for him to take the Siakam leap he is going to have to adapt to being more than a play finisher going beyond dunks and spot-up threes. Siakam's handle and footwork made him special and that's something I haven't seen a ton of from Toppin.

[manjusaka]

BTW if Dillingham can safely be assumed to be a -2 on defense it means he would need to be a +6 on offense to be a legit low level all-star and historically it just doesn't happen with guys his size especially considering he's not a free throw merchant.

I get lower on Dillingham by the day. Maybe he'll impress casual fans but analytics will likely never view him as favorably as he's perceived.

I just really think he probably ends up what Tim Hardaway Jr. would be as a combo guard but better. It's still not a highly desirable outcome given the hype.

Dillingham to me tops out as Maxey/IQ if everything goes right, but he could end up like Poole/Schroder as well, with obviously the potential to bust.

I'm actually pretty high on the kid, his archetype is pretty easy to project at the NBA level, it's just a question of if he can get a few elite skills to separate him from the pack and get him to near allstar level.

Both those guys have better tools for defending. I think Dillingham's upside is heavily tied into his defensive ability and it's hard to not see him as one of the worst defenders in the league. Maybe he finds a way to not get abused but it's not something I'm willing to bet on early in the draft. He's so damn small.

With Gradey’s rookie season, we had witnessed how lack of strength can affect a player offensively, defensively and mentally in the NBA. Dillingham is listed 164.2LBS it is horrendously under weight. FVV and Lowry wasn’t tall but they weighted around 190lbs as comparison. I am ranking Devin Carter ahead of Dillingham at the moment simply due to the physical attributes.

[DG88]

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Thank god the pick conveyed

Yup better it conveyed this year than next year.

[BoyzNTheHood]

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[WuTang_OG]

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Thank god the pick conveyed

Yup better it conveyed this year than next year.

100%
we have our freedom

[Karanpal]

Where's the link for the athletic testing from the combine

[WuTang_OG]

Where's the link for the athletic testing from the combine

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro?SeasonYear=2024-25

[WetLikeWater]

i hope to god we draft bronny with our 19th pick

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

JT Toppin has a bit of Amir Johnson in his game

I think I'm leaning towards Pacome Dadiet at 19, and Ajay Mitchell at 31

Quickley/Mitchell/Freeman-Liberty
Barrett/Dick/Agbaji
Dadiet/Brown/Temple
Barnes/Boucher/Nwora
Poeltl/Olynyk/Williams

[will]

JT Toppin has a bit of Amir Johnson in his game

I think I'm leaning towards Pacome Dadiet at 19, and Ajay Mitchell at 31

Quickley/Mitchell/Freeman-Liberty
Barrett/Dick/Agbaji
Dadiet/Brown/Temple
Barnes/Boucher/Nwora
Poeltl/Olynyk/Williams

Does JT Toppin have a summertime 3 ball?

[Morse Code]

I'm leaning Carrington or Ware at 19. I think Ware has very unique tools and could blossom into a star

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[OakleyDokely]

lets rewind to 4 months ago....

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The game Masai saw, he had 11 points (4-8 FG, 3-6 3PT) and 2 boards.

[Jerry Lucas]

lets rewind to 4 months ago....

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The game Masai saw, he had 11 points (4-8 FG, 3-6 3PT) and 2 boards.

Pascal was traded 3 days later.

Salaun is Masai's best case scenario BPA at 19.

[grant101]

lets rewind to 4 months ago....

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The game Masai saw, he had 11 points (4-8 FG, 3-6 3PT) and 2 boards.

There's nothing to this. He seems to go to France every year around the same time. Did the same in 2022 to scout Ismael Kamagate

[XTC]

Big advocate for Devin Carter if he's available at #19, but with how he measured, and how he killed the combine(42" vert, fastest 3/4 sprint time in combine history), it honestly looks like he's going top 10. Kid is a Marcus Smart clone.