Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Kendall Marshall

[LittleOzzy]

NBADraft.net: http://nbadraft.net/players/kendall-marshall

DraftExpress.com: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ken ... hall-5095/

This thread will be open at the conclusion of the season.

[Kreamy]

Didn't see one of those for Marshall. I think he ends up being our pick at 8.



http://nbadraft.net/players/kendall-marshall

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ken ... hall-5095/

[comet883]

I think this is our guy, if we dont move up/fall to 8th.

[Kreamy]

I think Marshall will end up being one of the best 5 players from this draft.

Strengths:
- Poise and leadership.
- High basketball IQ.
- Amazing passing skills (Jason Kidd/Steve Nash -like)
- Ability to control the tempo. Always plays with his head up and is excellent at both the half court and up tempo game.
- Great size for a point guard at 6'4.
- Seems like a great character guy.

He gets knocked on for his shot and defense. Legitimate concerns but he showed a lot of improvement in both departments as the year progressed.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tImwgAF6OA[/youtube]

This video has some of his defensive highlights starting at :40 second mark.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v45N9ThEZfk&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

[yayotube]

Split between Lillard and Marshall. Both are solid in their own way. One is a classic floor general the other is a new era hybrid PG.

Obviously, Marshall's passing would be on full display from day one. If Casey gets hard because Jose can pass, Marshall will blow him away.

[JunkYardSubs]

This guy is great, will likely be one of the biggest impact players in this draft

Would love to get him with a second pick but I dont see BC drafting someone who cant really score.

[JeJeFlak]

So depressing , 1 month ago i dreamed about A Davis and now the reality is Kendall freaking Marshall.

[dballislife]

not fast, not athletic, wont defend much cus of this, cant really shoot or score...cant get to the sweet spots and attack d rim, great passing and creating for others but not for self...hmm sounds like some1 when he first entered the league

[Brinbe]

100% would want if we're there @ 8. Is instantly one of the best playmakers/distributors in the league and would be the guy to run the point for the next decade.

Really a much rarer commodity than a Lillard, and I take the Marshall 100% of the time. Just look at the impact he had on UNC to see how important it is to have a capable and smart passer @ the 1.

[nelabai]

There is a huge gap between 7th and 8th picks, but if we end up 8th, i like Marshall, if only he could shoot a little better. he could be a franchise PG.

[Waylon Mercy]

Hmmmm lets see....

- Isn't a scorer
- Isn't a good 3 point shooter
- Not athletic
- Not a good defender
- Has the "look" of a role player

Sounds/looks like the next generations version of Andre Miller/Mark Jackson

We didn't just tank a season for a role player with average upside. Hell naw if we fall out
of tier 1 were gonna go high upside Home Run pick with PJ3, Rivers, Lillard or hope
Lamb falls to us.

Drafting Marshall is a treadmill pick... I'd rather get our PG in FA or trade or at worst wait out
another year and wait till Calderon expires then box ourselves in with Marshall.

[Brinbe]

Since when are Andre Miller/Mark Jackson role players? Totally disagree that this is a treadmill pick. We already have a loose collection of young talent and scorers on this team with no cohesive glue to pull it together. I think adding a Marshall to this team just makes everyone better and and that's something we desperately need.

Yeah, there are definite faults, but the D issue isn't a concern with Casey at the helm (that's why we hired him right?) and he showed in College that he can score enough.

Perhaps if he was from Spain and named Kendally Marshallio people would be more excited.

[Twoism]

I'd take him over Lillard, PJ3, Rivers.

I'm happy if some people say he looks like a role player, in this case the role is the pg so we're talking about some rare stuff.

I don't care if he can't score, Jason Kidd has learned to shoot at 31.

I don't wanna a player who meanwhile Jonas does a good movement of the ball thinks how he can scores instead to find the open man.

KM lacks athtletism, but he has size.

I'd risk for a first pass pg instead to risk for a scorer of the bench who as we all known we can find it with a 2nd round pick.

One year watching Josè and learning his pull up jumper on the p&r abilities and next year we'll have an Calderon/Kidd hybryd to guide our core.

[Waylon Mercy]

Since when are Andre Miller/Mark Jackson role players? Totally disagree that this is a treadmill pick. We already have a loose collection of young talent and scorers on this team with no cohesive glue to pull it together. I think adding a Marshall to this team just makes everyone better and and that's something we desperately need.

Yeah, there are definite faults, but the D issue isn't a concern with Casey at the helm (that's why we hired him right?) and he showed in College that he can score enough.

Perhaps if he was from Spain and named Kendally Marshallio people would be more excited.

Didn't mean to insult Andre Miller and Mark Jackson is high level role players better?

Actually you can compare Marshall to Calderon a bit...

Not great scorers, not good athletes, not good defenders, great passers, unselfsih....

I also think this teams desperately needs a 3rd scorer and there are players in this draft
range that have a way higher upside then Marshall.

In a league loaded with good PGs he will never be an All-Star and anybody will have a hard
time arguing hes gonna be a top 15 PG (half the league) with absolute certainty.

Not a guy im ever remotely considering right now plus hes coming off a broken wrist
hes not a scrub he just will never be a star or a defensive stopper I'd say the odds
we draft him are next to none.

[bboyskinnylegs]

not a fan of using our pick on Marshall. His defensive shortcomings, pedestrian wingspan, lack of athleticism, and bad scoring ability raises serious doubts about him imo. Sure, he has elite court vision and playmaking ability that looks on the level of guys like Nash/Kidd/Rubio, but when you factor in his flaws as well, can he really be more impactful than Jose?

[Waylon Mercy]

I'd take him over Lillard, PJ3, Rivers.

I'm happy if some people say he looks like a role player, in this case the role is the pg so we're talking about some rare stuff.

I don't care if he can't score, Jason Kidd has learned to shoot at 31.

I don't wanna a player who meanwhile Jonas does a good movement of the ball thinks how he can scores instead to find the open man.

KM lacks athtletism, but he has size.

I'd risk for a first pass pg instead to risk for a scorer of the bench who as we all known we can find it with a 2nd round pick.

One year watching Josè and learning his pull up jumper on the p&r abilities and next year we'll have an Calderon/Kidd hybryd to guide our core.

Do you think Marshall will be better then...

Paul
Rose
Westbrook
D Williams
Rondo
Nash
Parker
Wall
Irving
Rubio
Wall
Lawson
Jennings
Dragic
Lowry

Over half the leagues starting PG's in the league?

I see Marshall in the...

Conoley
Nelson
Felton
Calderon
Knight
Augustin
Lin
Miller
Davis
Harris
Teague
Collison
Sessions
Jack
Walker
I. Thomas

Group myself....

[Brinbe]

Didn't mean to insult Andre Miller and Mark Jackson is high level role players better?

Actually you can compare Marshall to Calderon a bit...

Not great scorers, not good athletes, not good defenders, great passers, unselfsih....

I also think this teams desperately needs a 3rd scorer and there are players in this draft
range that have a way higher upside then Marshall.

In a league loaded with good PGs he will never be an All-Star and anybody will have a hard
time arguing hes gonna be a top 15 PG (half the league) with absolute certainty.

Not a guy im ever remotely considering right now plus hes coming off a broken wrist
hes not a scrub he just will never be a star or a defensive stopper I'd say the odds
we draft him are next to none.

First of all, I'm not concerned with if he'll ever an all-star. I really don't care about that at all. I just want a good player who'll make us a better team and I think he will.

All the criticism is fair though, I've already conceded that. He's not a slam-dunk, but this is the position we're in now. I'd much rather grab him than some of the other guys out there like Lillard, PJ3 or T. Jones. Lamb I wouldn't be upset by though, if we went in that direction.

I can definitely see the comparison to Jose though, except I don't think Kendall's as conservative in his game. He's willing to push it, when it's there and he's just more creative overall. And I just think a commodity such as Marshall is a lot rarer in today's game and that's worth obtaining. And the potential to fix his faults and improve his D/shot is a lot higher than some of these other guards growing their basketball IQ.

Also grabbing a 3rd scorer is easy. It's a need that could be added via FA/trade if needed. There are brainless scorers upon scorers in this league. Hell, Alan f'n Anderson turned into an okay scorer for us and we grabbed him off the D-League.

Overall, I think Bargs/Val/DD will be that 'big 3' core as it stands going into next season, and putting them in better positions to score is something we should want to see.

[Waylon Mercy]

Didn't mean to insult Andre Miller and Mark Jackson is high level role players better?

Actually you can compare Marshall to Calderon a bit...

Not great scorers, not good athletes, not good defenders, great passers, unselfsih....

I also think this teams desperately needs a 3rd scorer and there are players in this draft
range that have a way higher upside then Marshall.

In a league loaded with good PGs he will never be an All-Star and anybody will have a hard
time arguing hes gonna be a top 15 PG (half the league) with absolute certainty.

Not a guy im ever remotely considering right now plus hes coming off a broken wrist
hes not a scrub he just will never be a star or a defensive stopper I'd say the odds
we draft him are next to none.

First of all, I'm not concerned with if he'll ever an all-star. I really don't care about that at all. I just want a good player who'll make us a better team and I think he will.

All the criticism is fair though, I've already conceded that. He's not a slam-dunk, but this is the position we're in now. I'd much rather grab him than some of the other guys out there like Lillard, PJ3 or T. Jones. Lamb I wouldn't be upset by though, if we went in that direction.

I can definitely see the comparison to Jose though, except I don't think Kendall's as conservative in his game. He's willing to push it, when it's there and he's just more creative overall. And I just think a commodity such as Marshall is a lot rarer in today's game and that's worth obtaining. And the potential to fix his faults and improve his D/shot is a lot higher than some of these other guards growing their basketball IQ.

Also grabbing a 3rd scorer is easy. It's a need that could be added via FA/trade if needed. There are brainless scorers upon scorers in this league. Hell, Alan f'n Anderson turned into an okay scorer for us and we grabbed him off the D-League.

Overall, I think Bargs/Val/DD will be that 'big 3' core as it stands going into next season, and putting them in better positions to score is something we should want to see.

What do you envision Marshall in his prime?

The number 1 draft rule is always draft BPA over need so if we have to draft Sullinger
even though we have a gazillion PF's and hes the BPA on the board I will take him if
I have to.

Do you just think the other players in our draft range don't have a higher upside then
Marshall? and Marshall just fits a need?

[Los Manos]

If Barnes, MKG, Beal & Lamb are all off the board when we pick then I have no problem reaching a little and taking Marshall.

[Brinbe]

That's a good question. Probably as you said, someone in that Andre Miller mold (which would work, since Andre was also drafted 8th overall in 99 haha). I concede that he probably won't be as good a scorer though.

And I'd probably take Sully, but I don't think I'd like it. I'm also operating on the idea that he's already gone.

Anyway, I believe Marshall's in the argument for BPA at that spot, but this idea of BPA is so subjective. At that point, there's no clear pecking order, and if he's the guy, just take him and trust your judgment. Kendall's projection may not be high as others, and his strengths (aside from assists) are more intangibles-based, so he may not stack up well when we're comparing these guys on pure numbers. But as I said, after four years in the lottery, we arguably already have a lot of the core talent in Bargs/DD/Val/Ed, we just need that glue to mold that disparate mix together and make it easier for them individually.

Just watch this video of his performance against a good FSU team
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhaTKn8oFg8[/youtube]

He just controls the game and makes plays. And after seeing that, any notion that he's purely a Jose is washed away.