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Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired

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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#921 » by Scase » Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:24 am

Mehar wrote:
Waylon Mercy wrote:How much you wanna bet if/when Colangelo gets fired "the board" will just promote Stefanski
to GM and we'll end up keeping all the turds like Embry, Maurizo, Eversly, Rucker, Kelly etc
that has to go with BC.


That is my biggest fear Waylon. I hope the Board wakes up and cleans house from top to bottom. Every Colangelo yes man should be fired. Colangelo has been a disaster. Just take a look at his inability to address the 3 spot in over 5 years (Kapono, Hedo, Kleiza, Fields and Moon) could not get it done. He did not want to pay Marion 34 M over 4 years, but opted to sign Hedo for 53 M over 5 years (LOL). The entire coaching staff needs to be let go. A total overhaul is what is needed. Stefanski and Maurizio were the same goofballs talking up the Landry
Fields signing and saying how he is the next Shane Battier in the

summertime. A complete wrecking ball is needed in the organization. Start fresh by letting go of Fields by amnesty, letting go of Calderon, and trading Bargnani. I do not care if we get nothing back for any of these guys, including Amir, Kleiza, etc. Get these stinkin' contracts off the books. Tank next year properly. Draft the hometown kid Wiggins or someone else, and build this team properly. However, every Colangelo buttkisser needs to be let go from top to bottom. Who else agrees?

The CBA only allows amnestying of players signed BEFORE the new CBA was put in place.
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#922 » by daleface » Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:26 am

MA29 wrote:I just hope we keep losing until BC gets fired.. and then we go on a run and give OKC a really **** draft pick.. and then we clean our roster of Bargs, caldy, Fields, anderson, JL3 and tank next year for andrew wiggins. inshallah.


+ infinity.

Also fire the rest of the incompetent management; Maurizo, Kelly, Embry, etc.

This team will never go through a proper rebuild until all these idiots are gone.
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#923 » by suntzuballin » Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:05 am

sam mitchell got fired 8-9 thats 16 games in raptors are 12 games in thats 4 more games left its gonna look bad if he doesnt get canned hes gonna be stuck in rock and hard place if he doesnt deal his crown prince hes has no choose but to roll dice
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#924 » by Hero » Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:17 am

Scase wrote:
Mehar wrote:
Waylon Mercy wrote:How much you wanna bet if/when Colangelo gets fired "the board" will just promote Stefanski
to GM and we'll end up keeping all the turds like Embry, Maurizo, Eversly, Rucker, Kelly etc
that has to go with BC.


That is my biggest fear Waylon. I hope the Board wakes up and cleans house from top to bottom. Every Colangelo yes man should be fired. Colangelo has been a disaster. Just take a look at his inability to address the 3 spot in over 5 years (Kapono, Hedo, Kleiza, Fields and Moon) could not get it done. He did not want to pay Marion 34 M over 4 years, but opted to sign Hedo for 53 M over 5 years (LOL). The entire coaching staff needs to be let go. A total overhaul is what is needed. Stefanski and Maurizio were the same goofballs talking up the Landry
Fields signing and saying how he is the next Shane Battier in the

summertime. A complete wrecking ball is needed in the organization. Start fresh by letting go of Fields by amnesty, letting go of Calderon, and trading Bargnani. I do not care if we get nothing back for any of these guys, including Amir, Kleiza, etc. Get these stinkin' contracts off the books. Tank next year properly. Draft the hometown kid Wiggins or someone else, and build this team properly. However, every Colangelo buttkisser needs to be let go from top to bottom. Who else agrees?

The CBA only allows amnestying of players signed BEFORE the new CBA was put in place.


So that means that Klieza is our only option really for it at this point?
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#925 » by El Bow » Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:23 am

Hero wrote:So that means that Klieza is our only option really for it at this point?

And Bargs
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#926 » by sanity » Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:29 am

it would be absolutely hilarious if bryan retains his title as team president and just promotes stefanski to gm. its a changing of job titles but still the same old crap
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#927 » by Volcano » Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:31 am

sanity wrote:it would be absolutely hilarious if bryan retains his title as team president and just promotes stefanski to gm. its a changing of job titles but still the same old crap


I thought he already did that?
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#928 » by PRESTIGE » Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:53 am

Mehar wrote:
Waylon Mercy wrote:How much you wanna bet if/when Colangelo gets fired "the board" will just promote Stefanski
to GM and we'll end up keeping all the turds like Embry, Maurizo, Eversly, Rucker, Kelly etc
that has to go with BC.


That is my biggest fear Waylon. I hope the Board wakes up and cleans house from top to bottom. Every Colangelo yes man should be fired. Colangelo has been a disaster. Just take a look at his inability to address the 3 spot in over 5 years (Kapono, Hedo, Kleiza, Fields and Moon) could not get it done. He did not want to pay Marion 34 M over 4 years, but opted to sign Hedo for 53 M over 5 years (LOL). The entire coaching staff needs to be let go. A total overhaul is what is needed. Stefanski and Maurizio were the same goofballs talking up the Landry
Fields signing and saying how he is the next Shane Battier in the

summertime. A complete wrecking ball is needed in the organization. Start fresh by letting go of Fields by amnesty, letting go of Calderon, and trading Bargnani. I do not care if we get nothing back for any of these guys, including Amir, Kleiza, etc. Get these stinkin' contracts off the books. Tank next year properly. Draft the hometown kid Wiggins or someone else, and build this team properly. However, every Colangelo buttkisser needs to be let go from top to bottom. Who else agrees?


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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#929 » by Jambo » Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:58 am

BC **** himself by trying to justify his signings . Instead of building on last years better defensive performance he wanted to go to an uptempo offensive system which catered to DD regardless of the results . Add in forcing Casey to over play Fields and Jose and this season has turned into a disaster .

Time to clean house and this starts by dumping BC . Keep Val/Ross and start over , we have some pieces that we can get some futures for and hopefully with good drafting combined with the returns from Bargs/Lowry/DD maybe we turn the corner and put a quality on the floor in 3/4 years .
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#930 » by UnderdogRaptors » Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:54 am

BC is a disgrace to his father :rofl:
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#931 » by jigga_man » Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:02 am

grumpwalter wrote:he shouldn't just be fired, he should be IMPRISONED.


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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#932 » by Spicy P » Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:06 am

This is frustrating as hell to watch. Some big changes need to be made. Don't think I can go through another season of this crap.
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#933 » by hillbilly hare » Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:09 am

I think crap it is and will remain. What exactly are the "big" changes from last year's horrendous embarrassing season?

Jonas looks like a center of the future, but he's a skinny young rookie and needs time to develop.

Lowry is very good, but I'm worried about his injuries and therefore his overall impact. We have to remember that Jose is a good PG in his own right and was our best player last year. Lowry's an upgrade, but as Jose's shown he can still play at a decent level. PG wasn't our greatest need.

Andrea has regressed, if that's possible.

Clownangelo went nuts in terms of "shoring up" the SG position: drafting Ross, signing Fields (who is not a SF) and extending Demar. 1 mediocre SG and 2 below-average SGs, if we're talking this season. Ross might develop into something. Demar looks good but he still plays below-average D and it's only been 12 games. Hauntingly like Andrea's infamous 13 games last year? We'll see.

And what is the result of the commitment to 3 shooting guards? That we often play a two-PG lineup! Nice use of resources.

The team is still mainly full of bench players. Lowry and Jose are really the only 2 real NBA starters. Andrea would be better in a 6th man role like Ryan Anderson.

A real possible risk for the team's future is that Colangelo might be able to convince ownership that this team would have been pretty good if not for the injuries. And he still has time to work out a trade for Wilson Chandler, who the Nuggets will probably trade for cap relief and a scrub and a future pick. He might be just enough to keep us sniffing around 8th-10th place, which might save the Clown's hide.
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#934 » by Phenomenologist » Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:14 am

hillbilly hare wrote:I think crap it is and will remain. What exactly are the "big" changes from last year's horrendous embarrassing season?

Jonas looks like a center of the future, but he's a skinny young rookie and needs time to develop.

Lowry is very good, but I'm worried about his injuries and therefore his overall impact. We have to remember that Jose is a good PG in his own right and was our best player last year. Lowry's an upgrade, but as Jose's shown he can still play at a decent level. PG wasn't our greatest need.

Andrea has regressed, if that's possible.

Clownangelo went nuts in terms of "shoring up" the SG position: drafting Ross, signing Fields (who is not a SF) and extending Demar. 1 mediocre SG and 2 below-average SGs, if we're talking this season. Ross might develop into something. Demar looks good but he still plays below-average D and it's only been 12 games. Hauntingly like Andrea's infamous 13 games last year? We'll see.

And what is the result of the commitment to 3 shooting guards? That we often play a two-PG lineup! Nice use of resources.

The team is still mainly full of bench players. Lowry and Jose are really the only 2 real NBA starters. Andrea would be better in a 6th man role like Ryan Anderson.

A real possible risk for the team's future is that Colangelo might be able to convince ownership that this team would have been pretty good if not for the injuries. And he still has time to work out a trade for Wilson Chandler, who the Nuggets will probably trade for cap relief and a scrub and a future pick. He might be just enough to keep us sniffing around 8th-10th place, which might save the Clown's hide.


Agree with most of this post, save for your overrating of Calderon. Yah, he's a passable starting PG OFFENSIVELY. But he's terrible, just terrible defensively. He gets broken down every play and either doesn't try or is simply incapable of defending owing to age, accrued injuries and/or innate limitations. He can't play 35+ minutes a game on a good team. He needs to be a backup at this point.
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#935 » by Scase » Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:16 am

El Bow wrote:
Hero wrote:So that means that Klieza is our only option really for it at this point?

And Bargs

And Jose, and Amir.
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#936 » by Hero » Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:13 am

Scase wrote:
El Bow wrote:
Hero wrote:So that means that Klieza is our only option really for it at this point?

And Bargs

And Jose, and Amir.


Well Jose is expiring and a good backup so we should be able to trade him easily for a pick. The thought of amnestying Bargs and still paying him is kinda sickening. Rather trade him to the Wizards or something.

Amir makes sense if Ed was developing into a good backup...which he isn't and not like we have Drummond either.
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#937 » by hillbilly hare » Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:56 am

Phenomenologist wrote:
hillbilly hare wrote:I think crap it is and will remain. What exactly are the "big" changes from last year's horrendous embarrassing season?

Jonas looks like a center of the future, but he's a skinny young rookie and needs time to develop.

Lowry is very good, but I'm worried about his injuries and therefore his overall impact. We have to remember that Jose is a good PG in his own right and was our best player last year. Lowry's an upgrade, but as Jose's shown he can still play at a decent level. PG wasn't our greatest need.

Andrea has regressed, if that's possible.

Clownangelo went nuts in terms of "shoring up" the SG position: drafting Ross, signing Fields (who is not a SF) and extending Demar. 1 mediocre SG and 2 below-average SGs, if we're talking this season. Ross might develop into something. Demar looks good but he still plays below-average D and it's only been 12 games. Hauntingly like Andrea's infamous 13 games last year? We'll see.

And what is the result of the commitment to 3 shooting guards? That we often play a two-PG lineup! Nice use of resources.

The team is still mainly full of bench players. Lowry and Jose are really the only 2 real NBA starters. Andrea would be better in a 6th man role like Ryan Anderson.

A real possible risk for the team's future is that Colangelo might be able to convince ownership that this team would have been pretty good if not for the injuries. And he still has time to work out a trade for Wilson Chandler, who the Nuggets will probably trade for cap relief and a scrub and a future pick. He might be just enough to keep us sniffing around 8th-10th place, which might save the Clown's hide.


Agree with most of this post, save for your overrating of Calderon. Yah, he's a passable starting PG OFFENSIVELY. But he's terrible, just terrible defensively. He gets broken down every play and either doesn't try or is simply incapable of defending owing to age, accrued injuries and/or innate limitations. He can't play 35+ minutes a game on a good team. He needs to be a backup at this point.


Well sure, I didn't mean Jose was an All-star or anything. Besides Lowry he is probably the only guy on our team who could actually start for at least a few other NBA teams, despite his D. He was our best player last year, but being the best player on a terrible team is no ticket to the HOF.

My point is that we upgraded the PG position, while downgrading the SF position (as hard as that may have seemed this off-season), staying the same at SG and PF, and upgrading C a little, but only because it was so bad last year. We are below-average at 4 starting positions right now. If we consider our entire roster, we have one of the best benches in the NBA, but unfortunately the bench guys are our starters.
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#938 » by Death Knight » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:29 pm

Poll middle of the page. Vote no!
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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#939 » by Scase » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:34 pm

Death Knight wrote:Poll middle of the page. Vote no!
http://www.sportsnet.ca/590/

Should have been "SHOULD BC be GM in 12 months". At least that way you hear peoples opinions on the matter as opposed to what people think the company will think of him.

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Re: Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired 

Post#940 » by El Bow » Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:38 pm

Scase wrote:
El Bow wrote:
Hero wrote:So that means that Klieza is our only option really for it at this point?

And Bargs

And Jose, and Amir.

Amir yes but not Jose; his contract will have expired

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