Embry speaks to MLSE board, "weighing options" (Pg. 8)

Zeno · Post #106 » by **Zeno** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:05 pm

Rhettmatic wrote:
Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS
As Raptors struggle, Bryan Colangelo summoned his senior advisor, Wayne Embry, to Toronto this week to meet with ownership, sources say.

So am I reading too much into this or is Embry going to need to endorse BC's moves from now on?

ATLTimekeeper · Post #107 » by **ATLTimekeeper** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:06 pm

Went well for whom? We're still upset, right?

Post #108 » by **Rhettmatic** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:08 pm

The two tweets I posted before, plus response from a local guy:

Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS
As Raptors struggle, Bryan Colangelo summoned his senior advisor, Wayne Embry, to Toronto this week to meet with ownership, sources say.

Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS
The meeting involving Embry and the board went well, according to a league source briefed on it. But 4-19 Raptors evaluating options.

Eric Koreen ‏@ekoreen
To less urgent matters: The two things @KBergCBS tweeted are approximately what I've heard. Ownership's mindset is the big unknown.

Eric Koreen ‏@ekoreen
Nobody has seen how the new MLSE works in such a crisis situation. Anybody who says they know is making a mighty leap.

Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS
Trade scenarios involving Andrea Bargnani and/or Jose Calderon are on hold with Bargnani and starting PG Kyle Lowry injured, source said.

Big Shot · Post #109 » by **Big Shot** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:08 pm

Rhettmatic wrote:
Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS
As Raptors struggle, Bryan Colangelo summoned his senior advisor, Wayne Embry, to Toronto this week to meet with ownership, sources say.

Somehow I got a feeling BC wanted to hide behind Embry's back.

KnickerBonkerz · Post #110 » by **KnickerBonkerz** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:10 pm

^You have to admit, it does make a good hiding spot

Indeed · Post #111 » by **Indeed** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:12 pm

Rhettmatic wrote:
Eric Koreen ‏@ekoreen
To less urgent matters: The two things @KBergCBS tweeted are approximately what I've heard. Ownership's mindset is the big unknown.

Not sure what kind of owner it is, doesn't seem to care about their businesses.
Ticket price are discounted, perhaps they don't want to make profit in the future?

Post #112 » by **Rhettmatic** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:12 pm

Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS
Buzz in league circles had Embry summoned by ownership, meaning trouble for Colangelo. But Colangelo sought Embry's counsel, sources said.

wtcantfw · Post #113 » by **wtcantfw** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:15 pm

Indeed wrote:
Rhettmatic wrote:
Eric Koreen ‏@ekoreen
To less urgent matters: The two things @KBergCBS tweeted are approximately what I've heard. Ownership's mindset is the big unknown.

Not sure what kind of owner it is, doesn't seem to care about their businesses.
Ticket price are discounted, perhaps they don't want to make profit in the future?

I'm sorry, but you have the most confusing posts. Is there even a point you're trying to make?

Big Shot · Post #114 » by **Big Shot** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:17 pm

Rhettmatic wrote:
Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS
Buzz in league circles had Embry summoned by ownership, meaning trouble for Colangelo. But Colangelo sought Embry's counsel, sources said.

At least BC was smart enough to jump ahead of the ownership.

ATLTimekeeper · Post #115 » by **ATLTimekeeper** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:19 pm

Embry won't sell out the Colangelos. He probably went to bat for him. They're burying Bargs to buy them some time on the trade market.

Indeed · Post #116 » by **Indeed** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:21 pm

tarheel06 wrote:
Indeed wrote:
Eric Koreen ‏@ekoreen
To less urgent matters: The two things @KBergCBS tweeted are approximately what I've heard. Ownership's mindset is the big unknown.

Not sure what kind of owner it is, doesn't seem to care about their businesses.
Ticket price are discounted, perhaps they don't want to make profit in the future?

I'm sorry, but you have the most confusing posts. Is there even a point you're trying to make?

Since I thought good leaders will indicate the business direction. The "Ownership's mindset is the big unknown" seems to be that they either have no leadership to provide direction, or simply has no direction. If they care about their business, they should have some discussions already.

I mean if I bought something and care about it, I wouldn't throw it aside and just let it lost its value. Maybe it is just me.

Zeno · Post #117 » by **Zeno** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:23 pm

So Embry is now in charge of advising both BC and the board on BC. If Embry did go to bat for BC than how long before the fireEmbry.com site appears.

carlosey · Post #118 » by **carlosey** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:24 pm

Embry wont put Collangelo in a bad spot, he was the hookup that brought him in. Then again, he was the guy that gave the go ahead to fire Babcock too. I say the outcome of the meeting is that this rebuilding crap is not for a town like toronto and they are going to go competitive with vets.

Post #119 » by **Rhettmatic** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:25 pm

carlosey wrote:Embry wont put Collangelo in a bad spot, he was the hookup that brought him in. Then again, he was the guy that gave the go ahead to fire Babcock too. I say the outcome of the meeting is that this rebuilding crap is not for a town like toronto and they are going to go competitive with vets.

They were rebuilding?

dacrusha · Post #120 » by **dacrusha** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:26 pm

The last time Embry was summoned to oversee a roster re-shuffling, he dumped Jalen Roses's $15 million salary on the Knicks.

Big Shot · Post #121 » by **Big Shot** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:28 pm

ATLTimekeeper wrote:Embry won't sell out the Colangelos. He probably went to bat for him. They're burying Bargs to buy them some time on the trade market.

No, he won't.....the Colangelos still hold on to his secret weight loss formula.

lucky777s · Post #122 » by **lucky777s** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:07 pm

dacrusha wrote:The last time Embry was summoned to oversee a roster re-shuffling, he dumped Jalen Roses's $15 million salary on the Knicks.

He gave away a first round pick that could have landed the Raps Rondo or Lowry in 2006. Probably done with BCs blessing given how close he was to coming on board. First of many short-sighted moves. And one that Babcock had been involved in negotiating but smartly would not give in on the pick.

sanity · Post #123 » by **sanity** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:08 pm

Why is Embry still employed with this franchise?

Inevitable · Post #124 » by **Inevitable** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:29 pm

sanity wrote:Why is Embry still employed with this franchise?

He brings a winning culture.

lucky777s · Post #125 » by **lucky777s** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:26 pm

Inevitable wrote:
sanity wrote:Why is Embry still employed with this franchise?

He brings a winning culture.

The honest to god truth is that he tells good stories and lets the board members hear all about players they used to watch when they were young. They think having a HOF guy associated with the team somehow gives their FO respect, but it doesn't.

It was the exact same with McCloskey who was around forever until he decided to leave the club. Babs brought in Embry to be the experienced voice to help guide him. When Peddie ordered Embry to report directly to him that was the clearest sign that Babs was on his way out. I even spoke with Babs about that and tried to get him to make a proactive move internally but politics was just not his thing. Personally I thought it was a scumbag move by Embry who should have been more loyal to Babs.