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Post#16 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Sun Jan 6, 2013 6:46 pm by Big Shot

The only logical reason is that Jose sucks even more playing off the bench. There's no word to describe how poorly he played off the bench.
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Post#17 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Sun Jan 6, 2013 7:36 pm by MEDIC

Michael Jordan single handedly ruined this franhcise.
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Post#18 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Sun Jan 6, 2013 7:41 pm by Parataxis

Big Shot wrote:The only logical reason is that Jose sucks even more playing off the bench. There's no word to describe how poorly he played off the bench.


Wait, I thought that the whole argument before (Forderon era) was that Jose was only good playing on the bench, and that's why his stats were meaningless?
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Post#19 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Sun Jan 6, 2013 7:57 pm by Big Shot

Parataxis wrote:
Big Shot wrote:The only logical reason is that Jose sucks even more playing off the bench. There's no word to describe how poorly he played off the bench.


Wait, I thought that the whole argument before (Forderon era) was that Jose was only good playing on the bench, and that's why his stats were meaningless?


Now, not then.
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Post#20 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Sun Jan 6, 2013 8:04 pm by Big Shot

MEDIC wrote:Michael Jordan single handedly ruined this franhcise.


Unfortunately, that was possibly the only thing MJ did right after he retired.
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Post#21 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Sun Jan 6, 2013 8:23 pm by Scraptor

I think BC might be waiting for Jan. 15th and the increased movement that will ensue, but my bigger fear is that he is waiting for Bargs to return because he is adamant about packaging then together. This would mean it'd be another month before Bargnani is healthy enough to be traded. Meanwhile we'd be using this idiotic platoon and two-pg lineups when really we need Lowry to have the reins, unconditionally, so he can really figure out his teammates. We also run the serious risk of Jose getting injured, which would be a clusterf**k beyond imagination.

Gah. This stupid team.
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Post#22 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Sun Jan 6, 2013 8:34 pm by duppyy

highscore wrote:
Yoga wrote:Calderon will have one or two good games and there will be threads about "giving Jose an extension", "Does Calderon deserve to be an allstar", etc. :lol:

You guys are too much


People that keep thinking this forum is bi-polar should probably just realize that more than 1 person posts here. Those people that have hated Jose (and Bargnani, BC, or even Casey for that matter) have been pretty consistent. Almost even incredibly stubborn to a degree. It's just a matter of timing, losses generate negativity and those (like myself) would rather discuss the atrocities behind this treadmill team than make posts like "Yay Alan Anderson is so good today!"

The fact that Jose starts, and not to mention always closes games is absolutely unreal. The case of Jose Calderon has been a strange anomaly for the last five years as it is, what's happening this season is just beyond comprehension.


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I always hate jose. Yes he played well but i still wanted him off the team. When he plays well its just a mirage and won't last long.
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Post#23 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Sun Jan 6, 2013 8:42 pm by raps4eva

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Post#24 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Sun Jan 6, 2013 8:43 pm by fredericklove

To spike up the trade value by giving him enough mins to boost up his empty stat. Either that or Casey trolling. Just last year he said he's in love with Lowry's game so this benching doesn't make any sense.
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Post#25 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Sun Jan 6, 2013 9:10 pm by Rapsalot

None :o
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Post#26 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Mon Jan 7, 2013 1:35 am by Scase

fredericklove wrote:To spike up the trade value by giving him enough mins to boost up his empty stat. Either that or Casey trolling. Just last year he said he's in love with Lowry's game so this benching doesn't make any sense.

My thoughts exactly, I assumed it was more for trade value.
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Post#27 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Mon Jan 7, 2013 1:41 am by mtran5569

none, nil, nada, nessuno da quando, aucun depuis lors, ninguno ya que cuando
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Post#28 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Mon Jan 7, 2013 12:02 pm by Abba Zabba

I am, compared to most around here, a Calderon booster; in that I think it's idiotic to lay all this franchise's problems at the feet of one of the only consistent, professional players we have had. But even I was shocked that we didn't start Lowry against OKC.

Aside from being the more talented point guard (although you could argue he has had some chemistry issues running the team and getting the most out of his team-mates) Lowry is clearly the better match up against Westbrook on both ends of the court.

Pure speculation: last time Lowry came back from injury he did so too early and also without integrating his game well with the rest of the team's. He is prone to over pushing it. This time Casey is bringing him along at a measured pace until he feels Lowry is ready both physically and mentally to take over the reigns and he isn't going to rush that growth for a game that we probably would have lost anyway.
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Post#29 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Mon Jan 7, 2013 4:43 pm by grumpwalter

because Dwane Casey plays players based on how much they're paid, back in Minnesota, guess who was part of Casey's rotation, Mark freakin' Madsen.
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Post#30 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Mon Jan 7, 2013 6:54 pm by KnickerBonkerz

wolfv wrote:These scrubs had the nerve to call out Lowry for being "selfish", remember?. Lowry was looking like a star, and I don't know if others were jealous, or just couldn't handle his strong personality. These losers enjoy playing with Jose, and they went on a nice streak. BC threw away a lotto pick

In case you already forgot, Lowry was looking selfish after coming back from injury (that game against Houston where everyone was shocked to learn he was back, because he was expected to be out for weeks) and certainly was not looking like a star. He sat with Andrea, now has come back and definitely looks like he's cooled down his frustration and is playing better, and I definitely think they're "easing him into the lineup" a bit too much.

Just had to clear that up for you...
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Post#31 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Mon Jan 7, 2013 7:03 pm by nahom1319

Well the alternative is playing with superstars Aaron Gray and Peeches.

Sadly our 2nd unit of Lowry, Ross, Anderson, Fields, and Amir is better then our starting unit.
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Post#32 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Mon Jan 7, 2013 10:25 pm by tmac101

When do you guys think Casey will go back to Lowry as the starting PG
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Post#33 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Mon Jan 7, 2013 10:27 pm by JunkYardSubs

tmac101 wrote:When do you guys think Casey will go back to Lowry as the starting PG

When he has pissed him off enough to make us trading our pick even more worthless
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Post#34 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Mon Jan 7, 2013 11:06 pm by niQ

Clearly to up his trade value.
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Post#35 Re: What logical reason is there for jose to
Mon Jan 7, 2013 11:23 pm by dballislife

dont people wanna see if lowry can be the PG of the future here, i do, how do u know, well u gotta play him in that role...its obvious what jose is already
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