OT - Okafor rejects Durant above the rim at the rim

3Si · Post #46 » by **3Si** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 4:40 pm

Those of you that says its a foul must be one of those annoying players who calls every touch fouls in the game. It was clearly a block, what happens after the block was caused by the momentum of KD. KD didn't even complain

416 · Post #47 » by **416** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 5:15 pm

what happens to this thread when we come to a conclusion on whether it was a block or not?

colonel_von · Post #48 » by **colonel_von** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 6:01 pm

tracey_nice wrote:
Hero wrote:Say what you want...very impressive block! Hardly anyone blocks him like that.

EXCEPT MANU. NOTICE HE DOESNT FOLLOW THROUGH DOWNWARDS ONTO DURANT'S ARM.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm9Y-vqZsEo[/youtube]

Got him on the hand after so it was definitely a foul. No such thing as incidental contact.

colonel_von · Post #49 » by **colonel_von** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 6:02 pm

3Si wrote:Those of you that says its a foul must be one of those annoying players who calls every touch fouls in the game. It was clearly a block, what happens after the block was caused by the momentum of KD. KD didn't even complain

S.W.A.N · Post #50 » by **S.W.A.N** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 6:15 pm

colonel_von wrote:
tracey_nice wrote:
Hero wrote:Say what you want...very impressive block! Hardly anyone blocks him like that.

EXCEPT MANU. NOTICE HE DOESNT FOLLOW THROUGH DOWNWARDS ONTO DURANT'S ARM.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm9Y-vqZsEo[/youtube]

Got him on the hand after so it was definitely a foul. No such thing as incidental contact.

http://www.nba.com/features/misundersto ... al_Contact

colonel_von · Post #51 » by **colonel_von** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 7:31 pm

S.W.A.N wrote:
colonel_von wrote:
tracey_nice wrote:EXCEPT MANU. NOTICE HE DOESNT FOLLOW THROUGH DOWNWARDS ONTO DURANT'S ARM.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm9Y-vqZsEo[/youtube]

Got him on the hand after so it was definitely a foul. No such thing as incidental contact.

http://www.nba.com/features/misundersto ... al_Contact

Sorry, I was being sarcastic. Both blocks in this thread are blocks. The contact in both is incidental.

kmatrixg · Post #52 » by **kmatrixg** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 8:01 pm

Volcano wrote:
S.W.A.N wrote:
tracey_nice wrote:durant still had control of the ball after okafor made contact with the ball tho :/ (see pic by Volcano) and okafor followed through and hacked his whole arm. nba is soft/refs are corrupt is the meme+agenda though i guess? cool.

Okafor got ball, Durant's momentum created the arm contact as he pushed through for the dunk. No foul

he didn't "get" the ball, he altered it at first and Durant was STILL palming it.

Instead of stopping it head on, he changed it's course of direction while Durant was still controlling it. His follow through was swatting it down on Durant's wrist..THAT part was a foul. It wouldn't have been a foul if Okafor kept his hands straight up in the air.

Ignore everything before the moment of the screenshot that i took. The sequence of events is: 1) ball in Durant's hands 2) Okafor hits Durant's wrists downwards and gets no ball

It doesn't get any simpler than that.

Here you go, since you seem to be leading the crusade of this being a foul.

1. Incidental Contact
The mere fact that contact occurs does not necessarily constitute a foul. Contact which is incidental to an effort by a player to play an opponent, reach a loose ball, or perform normal defensive or offensive movements, should not be consid-ered illegal. If, however, a player attempts to play an opponent from a position where he has no reasonable chance to perform without making contact with his opponent, the responsibility is on the player in this position.

The hand is considered "part of the ball" when it is in contact with the ball. Therefore, contact on that hand by a defender while it is in contact with the ball is not illegal.

From: http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_a.htm ... rticleList

This is incidental contact my friend - I've never known a human being to recoil his arm when it's halfway through a motion. It'd be incredibly difficult, and for one to expect this incidental contact to not occur needs to go speak to Sir Newton.

kmatrixg · Post #53 » by **kmatrixg** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 8:07 pm

416 wrote:what happens to this thread when we come to a conclusion on whether it was a block or not?

Your avatar happens.

tracey_nice · Post #54 » by **tracey_nice** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 9:58 pm

how is swiping your arm downwards incidental contact?

GINOBILI KEPT HIS ARMS UP. OKAFOR SWIPED DOWN (cuz he sucks).

* nba is soft. *

***~~~~ dick bevetta is the worst ref because i know his name ***~~~~

tracey_nice · Post #55 » by **tracey_nice** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:00 pm

kmatrixg wrote:This is incidental contact my friend - I've never known a human being to recoil his arm when it's halfway through a motion. It'd be incredibly difficult, and for one to expect this incidental contact to not occur needs to go speak to Sir Newton.

recoil? we're not playing Pokemon broh. you can contest a shot and not swipe down and hit wrist/arm.

3Si · Post #56 » by **3Si** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:46 pm

tracey_nice wrote:
kmatrixg wrote:This is incidental contact my friend - I've never known a human being to recoil his arm when it's halfway through a motion. It'd be incredibly difficult, and for one to expect this incidental contact to not occur needs to go speak to Sir Newton.

recoil? we're not playing Pokemon broh. you can contest a shot and not swipe down and hit wrist/arm.

He would've been posterized if he did that. This is not against some 5 foot midget in your local pickup game this is K facking D!

tracey_nice · Post #57 » by **tracey_nice** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:48 pm

i play in an all-star rec league broh. /rjc

3Si · Post #58 » by **3Si** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:55 pm

tracey_nice wrote:i play in an all-star rec league broh. /rjc

I'm sure there are plenty of 6-11 guys that play like KD in ur rec league. :roll:

tracey_nice · Post #59 » by **tracey_nice** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 10:56 pm

i'm sure you've seen every player in my rec league. :eyeeroll:

Throwback24 · Post #60 » by **Throwback24** » Tue Jan 8, 2013 11:00 pm

3Si wrote:
tracey_nice wrote:i play in an all-star rec league broh. /rjc

I'm sure there are plenty of 6-11 guys that play like KD in ur rec league.

come check and I'll show you how difficult it is to guard KD :evil:

kmatrixg · Post #61 » by **kmatrixg** » Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:08 am

tracey_nice wrote:
kmatrixg wrote:This is incidental contact my friend - I've never known a human being to recoil his arm when it's halfway through a motion. It'd be incredibly difficult, and for one to expect this incidental contact to not occur needs to go speak to Sir Newton.

recoil? we're not playing Pokemon broh. you can contest a shot and not swipe down and hit wrist/arm.

An attempt at wit is not a suitable argument when facts are in play.

3Si · Post #62 » by **3Si** » Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:10 am

tracey_nice wrote:i'm sure you've seen every player in my rec league. :eyeeroll:

Ummm do I actually need to see every player in your league to know no one is as good as KD?? Lol

tracey_nice · Post #63 » by **tracey_nice** » Wed Jan 9, 2013 1:17 am

dublo7 · Post #64 » by **dublo7** » Wed Jan 9, 2013 4:39 am

http://www.nba.com/videorulebook/category.html?cid=105

I think the last 2 are the closest I could find relevant to this situation.
Still looking for a better video example.

However - its it a block all the contact after is incidental. otherwise the block stats for everyone would be down 75%!

Scase · Post #65 » by **Scase** » Wed Jan 9, 2013 7:12 am

Well this thread certainly took a turn for the stupid.